Calf tagged with no card and tb testing

hopgirl · 27-06-2017 07:01PM #1

We have the TB testing coming up next week. We have a week old calf that we are going to tag but the card might not be back on time. Will it still be OK to test without the calf's card?
We would have tagged the calf sooner but he had aspiration pneumonia.

Water John · 27-06-2017 07:07PM

Shove it in the post tomorrow. It's not your fault if it's not gone through. Won't be an issue. Vet will log in the number.

hopgirl · 27-06-2017 07:20PM

Water John wrote: »

Shove it in the post tomorrow. It's not your fault if it's not gone through. Won't be an issue. Vet will log in the number.

Thank you. When the card comes back I can bring it into the vet.

whelan2 · 27-06-2017 07:56PM

They dont stamp the cards anymore so no need to send them in

The part time boy · 27-06-2017 08:03PM

Can anyone give me a reason why we need cards anymore ?

I trying to think of a good reason but can't see one really

whelan2 · 27-06-2017 08:03PM

The part time boy wrote: »

Can anyone give me a reason why we need cards anymore ?

I trying to think of a good reason but can't see one really

I suppose for handing over ownership?

The part time boy · 27-06-2017 08:10PM

There the mart or private sale receipt for that or more important the cheque !

If you get a card and no movement is done on ag food the passport is worthless

whelan2 · 27-06-2017 08:11PM

The part time boy wrote: »

There the mart or private sale receipt for that or more important the cheque !

If you get a card and no movement is done on ag food the passport is worthless

Card is to be given with movement permit is it not ?

dohc turbo2 · 27-06-2017 08:13PM

Last time was same thing for me and when card came back it was printed on it the test date , rest the vet had stamped in

Water John · 27-06-2017 09:02PM

The card is a Dept of Ag owned document, not yours, TMK.

Base price · 27-06-2017 09:10PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Card is to be given with movement permit is it not ?

Card is suppose to be in the same place (farm, mart etc) as the animal.
Also the card forms part of the traceability system operated by the Dept.
Our Vet still stamps the cards and I prefer if all cards were stamped like they used to be but thats only my personal preference.

Water John · 27-06-2017 09:18PM

Date stamp of the last test is fine. Vet now doesn't have to sign each card. Lovely work for her in front of the telly signing 500 cards.

The part time boy · 27-06-2017 09:30PM

Ok ye said what the passport meant to do which I knew.

But no one come up with a problem (yet) that would result if passports where to be withdrawn in the morning .....

whelan2 · 27-06-2017 09:32PM

Why would they be withdrawn?

The part time boy · 27-06-2017 09:40PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Why would they be withdrawn?

Cause if no one can come up with a good problem it cause not having them why should be have them ...lol

Water John · 27-06-2017 09:41PM

I think Part Time Boy wants it, all 'in the cloud'?

The part time boy · 27-06-2017 09:49PM

Water John wrote: »

I think Part Time Boy wants it, all 'in the cloud'?

Afraid what I want is immaterial .

It's all ready up there in ag food !

Buy getting rid of cards we not be pitting more stuff in a "cloud" .

Lads that don't like cloud can still have there blue books so they be able to have something in there hands .

Mooooo · 27-06-2017 10:32PM

The cards will be gone eventually, it may depend on getting the last few farmers signed up to agfood etc, They prob cost a bit in printing the lost ones not a mind the origional

The part time boy · 27-06-2017 10:37PM

I think your right . All bps to be online next year. Only a matter of time .

Apart from farmers liking to have a list of cattle I don't see the point / Need for the blue book as it's all on at food whether your signed up or not .

Base price · 27-06-2017 11:14PM

The part time boy wrote: »

I think your right . All bps to be online next year. Only a matter of time .

Apart from farmers liking to have a list of cattle I don't see the point / Need for the blue book as it's all on at food whether your signed up or not .

What about the thousands of farmers who are not computer literate let alone those that have terrible internet connection. Agfood is useless unless you have the technical ability to use it.

The part time boy · 27-06-2017 11:22PM

Base price wrote: »

The part time boy wrote: »

I think your right . All bps to be online next year. Only a matter of time .

Apart from farmers liking to have a list of cattle I don't see the point / Need for the blue book as it's all on at food whether your signed up or not .

What about the thousands of farmers who are not computer literate let alone those that have terrible internet connection. Agfood is useless unless you have the technical ability to use it.

Not saying it's the right thing to do . Only that the way I see it going .

But as I said I don't see what it matter if the blue book his given up . A old lad never need to "log " in and still won't make a difference .

The more I think of it it probably make more sense to get rid of blue book and keep cards

hopgirl · 28-06-2017 12:00AM

His tagged now. And off in the post tomorrow.
I say the cards will go eventually online even when dad was ordering tags they were pushing him to go online. Now dad is OK going on the internet to look up stuff but when it came to signing up online he wouldn't have a clue.
He likes have paper or cards in his hand rather than trying to find it online. I did it for him but if he didn't have me I can see where farmers having trouble if they don't know how to use technology, and my mother is no good with technology.

tanko · 28-06-2017 12:12AM

hopgirl wrote: »

We have the TB testing coming up next week. We have a week old calf that we are going to tag but the card might not be back on time. Will it still be OK to test without the calf's card?
We would have tagged the calf sooner but he had aspiration pneumonia.

Maybe I'm wrong but i always thought that calves less than six weeks old don't have to be tested unless the herd owner wants them tested?

Sheep breeder · 28-06-2017 12:14AM

Base price wrote: »

What about the thousands of farmers who are not computer literate let alone those that have terrible internet connection. Agfood is useless unless you have the technical ability to use it.

If you can get donedeal you will have the ability for AgFood.

hopgirl · 28-06-2017 12:45AM

tanko wrote: »

Maybe I'm wrong but i always thought that calves less than six weeks old don't have to be tested unless the herd owner wants them tested?

Tanko I think you are right, a poster on another post said under six weeks if selling now but we won't be selling this calf until November. So the test would need to be done and we are testing all our cattle that day.

tanko · 28-06-2017 01:19AM

As long as the calf is tagged when tested and registered properly i wouldn't worry about not having its card on the day of the test.

Nekarsulm · 28-06-2017 08:20AM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

If you can get donedeal you will have the ability for AgFood.

I find AgFood a very awkwardly designed site. Too many buttons and not laid out with any logical "flow" about it.
Even just doing a farm to farm movement /printing cert/ compliance etc. seems to be made unnecessarily "clunky".

Water John · 28-06-2017 11:12AM

See an elderly man in the bank yesterday. Was told he would now have to do what he wanted, online. The bewildered look on the poor man's face.

pedigree 6 · 28-06-2017 01:01PM

Water John wrote: »

See an elderly man in the bank yesterday. Was told he would now have to do what he wanted, online. The bewildered look on the poor man's face.

Let me guess.

Bank of Ireland?

Byrnie55483 · 28-06-2017 01:16PM

The tagging system requires the application by the keeper of two identically numbered yellow plastic eartags to all calves born on a holding within twenty days of birth. Keepers are obliged to order their annual requirement of eartags directly from the tag supplier approved by the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine. They do this by completing the tag order card sent to them by the approved tag supplier and returning it with the appropriate fee. On application of a pair of tags to a calf, the keeper must complete a corresponding and identically numbered registration application form, which is supplied with each pair of tags.

Water John · 28-06-2017 02:11PM

55483, what's your point?

Yes BOI. Now doing us a great favour. There staying in the town but cash desk will be open from 10-12.30 each day!!

Calf tagged with no card and tb testing

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