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How early in the morning would you turn hay

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  • #62
    pedigree 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Reggie. wrote: »
    They can sweat on the concrete. Just put them onto pallets

    It's the same reason that if you leave hay bales on a steel floored trailer for a while especially fresh from field the bottoms will go black from sitting on the trailer.

    Moisture is attracted to cold surfaces.
    Think of single glazed Windows with the warm moisture collecting on the inside surface of the window or a cold water pipe from a plate cooler with moisture on the outside of the pipe or a cold glass of beer. You get the jist.

    But the warm moisture in the bale is attracted to whatever colder surface it's sitting on or up against (wall).


  • #63
    tancoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 ✭tancoman


    If hay is fit to bale, it is fit to put it in the shed. All this old talk of leaving out round bales after baling is rubbish. If is no fit don't bale it.


  • #64
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,574 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    tancoman wrote: »
    If hay is fit to bale, it is fit to put it in the shed. All this old talk of leaving out round bales after baling is rubbish. If is no fit don't bale it.
    That's all new to me. Have you a lot of experience making hay?


  • #65
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,636 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    That's all new to me. Have you a lot of experience making hay?

    Wonder did many sheds burn down on him


  • #66
    pedigree 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    tancoman wrote: »
    If hay is fit to bale, it is fit to put it in the shed. All this old talk of leaving out round bales after baling is rubbish. If is no fit don't bale it.

    100% correct.
    But some hay is baled when it's only 99% fit to bale and thus people are afraid to bring in (rightly so) till it's stopped heating.
    If it's 100% fit and dry there should be no heating.
    Have often brought hay in the next day after baling. Better than getting wet out in the field.
    That said I just bought hay yesterday and the seller wants to leave it out in the field for 5 days before delivering. I ain't going to argue with him over that.


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  • #67
    Username John
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Wonder did many sheds burn down on him

    To be fair - they have a point...

    If twas left on the ground a day longer, then the shed shouldn't be in any danger...
    If it needed the day to save, it isn't hay, so wrap it up...


  • #68
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,830 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    After reading a heap of posts here I'm wondering why lads bother with it ,it's a ****e feed (In my opinion)takes too much time and diesel to save needs a shed etc etc .saying that I made 258 round bales of haylage on Tuesday ,looked savage stuff but mostly for dry Cows


  • #69
    Username John
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    After reading a heap of posts here I'm wondering why lads bother with it ,it's a ****e feed (In my opinion)takes too much time and diesel to save needs a shed etc etc .saying that I made 258 round bales of haylage on Tuesday ,looked savage stuff but mostly for dry Cows

    Do you not find silage can make ewes prolapse more Mahoney?

    Also, do you not find piling the silage into the hay racks to feed the ewes very awkward?

    ;)


  • #70
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,636 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Username John wrote: »
    Do you not find silage can make ewes prolapse more Mahoney?

    Also, do you not find piling the silage into the hay racks to feed the ewes very awkward?

    ;)

    Or feeding to horses so they can lose fat in the spring


  • #71
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    I put in the rounds the next day last yr. Stack them on end on pallets on level gravel ground and two stacked on that. Even though the hay is well saved this yr i will leave them out for a week. last year was exceptional hay weather here.


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  • #72
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭Robson99


    tancoman wrote: »
    If hay is fit to bale, it is fit to put it in the shed. All this old talk of leaving out round bales after baling is rubbish. If is no fit don't bale it.

    No its not rubbish. Unless what you are baling is growing all year and has received no nitrogen and turning yellow before you cut it. In other words ****e.


  • #73
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Robson99 wrote: »
    No its not rubbish. Unless what you are baling is growing all year and has received no nitrogen and turning yellow before you cut it. In other words ****e.

    I've rarely seen hay anything other than that :pac:


  • #74
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,494 ✭✭✭tanko


    Does no one remember the "hay" that was made in 85 and 86?
    It was black, damp and had smoke coming out of it.
    How it didn't kill the cattle that had to eat it i'll never know.


  • #75
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,636 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    tanko wrote: »
    Does no one remember the "hay" that was made in 85 and 86?
    It was black, damp and had smoke coming out of it.
    How it didn't kill the cattle that had to eat it i'll never know.

    Was barely walking then


  • #76
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,574 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    tanko wrote: »
    Does no one remember the "hay" that was made in 85 and 86?
    It was black, damp and had smoke coming out of it.
    How it didn't kill the cattle that had to eat it i'll never know.

    I remember. Either drove guys insane or drove them to making silage.
    I tell ya, to watch a Fusion whipping around a field now compared to trying to save hay back then.


  • #77
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,310 ✭✭✭alps


    Boards needs hay making lessons from Coolmore.......


  • #78
    tancoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 ✭tancoman


    My experience is, and have been making hay since a young fellow in the 60's, if hay is FIT to bale, it is FIT to put in the shed. And yes the ground get 18.6.12., but not too much of it. The hay is used for brood mares, foals, yearlings etc.


  • #79
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    tancoman wrote: »
    My experience is, and have been making hay since a young fellow in the 60's, if hay is FIT to bale, it is FIT to put in the shed. And yes the ground get 18.6.12., but not too much of it. The hay is used for brood mares, foals, yearlings etc.
    No offense, horse hay ain't up to the same standard that livestock farmers require.


  • #80
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    alps wrote: »
    Boards needs hay making lessons from Coolmore.......

    Doubt most of us could afford the drying sheds coolmore has to match their hay making operation


  • #81
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    These will cost me another few bags of spuds before they are fit for this job.☺


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  • #82
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    These will cost me another few bags of spuds before they are fit for this job.☺

    And now beating lumps outta each other


  • #83
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Base price wrote: »
    No offense, horse hay ain't up to the same standard that livestock farmers require.

    Hay for thoroughbreds needs to be far superior to cattle hay.


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