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How early in the morning would you turn hay

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  • #32
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    max12 wrote: »
    How soon can I draw in rounds. Will be stacking 4 high in a hay shed

    Is there any need to turn them for an hour before drawing in to let the damp spot at the bottom dry out.

    10 days for round hay bales. That's what the older guys say around here. No fear of hay in round bales. Face the damp side out in the shed.


  • #33
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,343 ✭✭✭kk.man


    How many days have ye hay down for before round baling?


  • #34
    anthony500_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭anthony500_1


    CloughCasey1 wrote:
    Lovely sweet smell of it this morning. ☺


    Bit off topic so apologizes...... But Is that a lely lotus 300 your using to ted out in the pic and if so how do you find it for shaking out and rowing up. Thinking of putting one on the shopping list for the future


  • #35
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    kk.man wrote: »
    How many days have ye hay down for before round baling?

    Interested in this to. Also, did i hear someone saying that hay for round bale can afford to be a bit greener than square baling?


  • #36
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    anthony500_1 wrote: »
    Bit off topic so apologizes...... But Is that a lely lotus 300 your using to ted out in the pic and if so how do you find it for shaking out and rowing up. Thinking of putting one on the shopping list for the future

    It is indeed. I have haybob for the first turn then the lely to shake out however many times and haybob to row it up. FIL used to reckon that you'd save hay a day quicker with lely.


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  • #37
    rushvalley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭rushvalley


    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    It is indeed. I have haybob for the first turn then the lely to shake out however many times and haybob to row it up. FIL used to reckon that you'd save hay a day quicker with lely.

    Does the headstock on the Lely turn with the tractor like the haybob would?


  • #38
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    rushvalley wrote: »
    Does the headstock on the Lely turn with the tractor like the haybob would?

    It does but i have it locked to do straight lines only


  • #39
    anthony500_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭anthony500_1


    CloughCasey1 wrote:
    It is indeed. I have haybob for the first turn then the lely to shake out however many times and haybob to row it up. FIL used to reckon that you'd save hay a day quicker with lely.


    Does it not row up great for baling or why the haybob first and last. I know the Lely is dual purpose and as such can't do both really well????? the same goes for the haybob too I suppose


  • #40
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    anthony500_1 wrote: »
    Does it not row up great for baling or why the haybob first and last. I know the Lely is dual purpose and as such can't do both really well????? the same goes for the haybob too I suppose

    The haybob takes it off the ground better eapecially when cut with disc/rota mower at the start and cleans the ground better rowing up. The Lely lifts the hay shaking it out letting more air between the hay helping to dry it quicker. The haybob just rolls the hay backward and can make lumps of wet grass out of the hay making it harder to save. Thats my take on it anyway.


  • #41
    Genghis Cant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    The haybob takes it off the ground better eapecially when cut with disc/rota mower at the start and cleans the ground better rowing up. The Lely lifts the hay shaking it out letting more air between the hay helping to dry it quicker. The haybob just rolls the hay backward and can make lumps of wet grass out of the hay making it harder to save. Thats my take on it anyway.

    I've never used a Lely so I don't know but you're right about the Haybob. I often think it just moves the hay from one place to the next, particularly heavy meadow. It's nor just as simple as that though.
    I never turn the same rows the same way, I split them and I'd turn it once in tge opposite direction even though your working against the machine.
    We've hay fit to bale yesterday gonna bale it today. Mowed Friday, kicked out first on Sunday at noon and 5, same yesterday. It's a lightish crop of old meadow hay.


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  • #42
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭alps


    Cut Wednesday and baled this morning before 8am with a smashing dew on top....weve been making hay like this for a number of years, baling it when fit but with a fall of dew or light drizzle, and wrapping.

    The hay out of it is completely dust free, and fresh like the moment it went into the bale.

    Quality, plus the price of the plastic would never put up a shed for storage...


  • #43
    Who2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭Who2


    I reckon anyone considering buying anything in the lines of a hay bob should consider a lely rotunde before splashing out on a machine I reckon that is probably coming to the end of it's era. Even at that it seems to be thirty foot rows everyone is working to now.


  • #44
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,636 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Hay baled tonight. Down 3 days


  • #45
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭Robson99


    alps wrote: »
    Cut Wednesday and baled this morning before 8am with a smashing dew on top....weve been making hay like this for a number of years, baling it when fit but with a fall of dew or light drizzle, and wrapping.

    The hay out of it is completely dust free, and fresh like the moment it went into the bale.

    Quality, plus the price of the plastic would never put up a shed for storage...
    In other words Haylage


  • #46
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    400 square and 46 rounds. Cut thursday and baled at 1pm.


  • #47
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭alps


    Robson99 wrote: »
    In other words Haylage

    Absolutely not....

    Haulage has a residue moisture in the grass, and undergoes a fermentation preservation process, usually resulting in a slightly moist higher energy feed.

    This remains completely unchanged, and opens exactly in the same state as it was baled, and to remove all doubt again...it remains completely unchanged....it is wrapped hay...


  • #48
    CHOPS01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 785 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Get a touch of nostalgia when I see a field of square bales. Takes me back 25 years.
    Part of me would love to spend a day stooking bales.


  • #49
    Never wrestle with pigs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Interested in this to. Also, did i hear someone saying that hay for round bale can afford to be a bit greener than square baling?

    I'm fairly sure it's the other way around. But needs a few days outside before putting into the shed.


  • #50
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »
    I'm fairly sure it's the other way around. But needs a few days outside before putting into the shed.

    Needs to be better saved for round bales. And round bales need a fortnight outside if ryegrass content is high


  • #51
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭tanko


    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    400 square and 46 rounds. Cut thursday and baled at 1pm.

    So that makes 1200 square and 138 rounds, not a bad afternoons work:pac:


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  • #52
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Get a touch of nostalgia when I see a field of square bales. Takes me back 25 years.
    Part of me would love to spend a day stooking bales.

    Helped a neighbour stack some this week. Reckon it's over 30 years since I stacked them.:D


  • #53
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    tanko wrote: »
    So that makes 1200 square and 138 rounds, not a bad afternoons work:pac:

    Now that would be work!! Feckin stupid phone...or stupid person using it. Would be nice it they tripled over night.☺☺☺


  • #54
    ABlur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 833 ✭✭✭ABlur


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Helped a neighbour stack some this week. Reckon it's over 30 years since I stacked them.:D

    Stacking them is the easy part, imagine settling them at the top of an enclosed hayshed in yesterday's heat. Twud cure me of nostalgia fairly quick!


  • #55
    adam14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭adam14


    ABlur wrote:
    Stacking them is the easy part, imagine settling them at the top of an enclosed hayshed in yesterday's heat. Twud cure me of nostalgia fairly quick!


    Been there, done that, nearly killed me!


  • #56
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Made round bales of hay last night. Cut since Friday and looked like it was in good shape in the wind rows but a bit concerned it will heat. Bales very solid. A small bit of mist came for a min or 2 when they were bailing. Probably won't help it either.

    Should I leave them out for a while to season ? Rain promised.


  • #57
    Username John
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Made round bales of hay last night. Cut since Friday and looked like it was in good shape in the wind rows but a bit concerned it will heat. Bales very solid. A small bit of mist came for a min or 2 when they were bailing. Probably won't help it either.

    Should I leave them out for a while to season ? Rain promised.

    I read on here before some lads would roll em in on top of the slats, as they found it good that the air could circulate all round em...

    Leave em there for a few weeks, and then stack em in the shed after that..

    Not sure if that's an option for you...


  • #58
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Username John wrote: »
    Not sure if that's an option for you...

    Well it kinda is. I have an old concrete slab big enough to hold them. I am putting them there with a good gap between them so i can roll them about. Hopefully it will work out for me


  • #59
    Buckmickley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Buckmickley


    I would Never put bales of hay on slats
    They will be riddled with ticks and flies that will be down in whatever is in the tank
    It's a bad idea

    Put them in an airy shed if you're putting them in straight away
    A shed where the wind will blow through it but where there's no rain getting at them


  • #60
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    On a separate note. A lad said it was a bad idea to leave round bales to season on concrete slab but couldn't remember why!

    Anyone here this


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  • #61
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,636 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    On a separate note. A lad said it was a bad idea to leave round bales to season on concrete slab but couldn't remember why!

    Anyone here this

    They can sweat on the concrete. Just put them onto pallets


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