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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • #6302
    Burial.
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    I can't believe we're using a shot Zab Judah landed as evidence Conor can do the same. From a technical point alone, Zab is one of the greatest boxers of all time, a near perfect technician. The fact he could only land a few flush shots on Floyd is more telling of how damn good you have to be to hit Floyd rather than the opportunities it gives a Boxing bum of doing the same.


  • #6303
    Gamebred
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    I would back Floyd to beat Conor even if he was only allowed punch with one hand for the record.


  • #6304
    wonderfullife
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    walshb wrote: »
    All above board and both out to win and no messing about I reckon Conor lands 30 punches. Mayweather lands 40-50, with 20-30 being significant/huting.

    0 of significance/real hurt from Conor to Floyd.

    That's compubox which is just a counter...

    That's over 3 rds BTW, as I cannot see it past that.

    Ok that's a fair prediction. I agree with you, if Floyd stops him in 3 rounds those numbers will be fairly accurate.

    I think it goes at least 9 rounds. I'm confident in Conor's chin all day long and Nate hit Conor with 2 absolute peaches to the body that didn't seem to affect him, so I'm hopeful his body holds up to Floyd's body-work.


  • #6305
    GerryDerpy
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    wonderfullife wrote: »
    It's crazy the way some people are talking like Floyd could fight Conor with both hands tied behind his back and Conor still wouldn't hit him.

    Andre Ward is *literally* on record saying Nate Diaz was his main sparring partner for the Chad Dawson fight. He has said incredibly good things about Nate's boxing ability and he'd know better than us having done hundreds of rounds of sparring with him.

    Just because someone fights in MMA doesn't mean they can't box well under boxing rules.

    Agreed and Conor dropped Nate 3 times inside 2 rounds. Totally outclassed him.


  • #6306
    ooter
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    and chasing Floyd will get tiring

    Why should Conor chase Floyd?
    Floyd is a counter attacking fighter so leave him at it, sit back and let him come on to Conor, if he doesn't he doesn't, big swing.
    If it's a 12 round borefest it'll be a victory for Conor and MMA regardless of what the judges say on the night


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  • #6307
    walshb
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    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Ok that's a fair prediction. I agree with you, if Floyd stops him in 3 rounds those numbers will be fairly accurate.

    I think it goes at least 9 rounds. I'm confident in Conor's chin all day long and Nate hit Conor with 2 absolute peaches to the body that didn't seem to affect him, so I'm hopeful his body holds up to Floyd's body-work.

    If it went 9 rds I would think Floyd lands maybe 150 shots that we can see clearly as landed. Conor would likely be in a bad way, and really should be getting pulled out.....

    Conor lands maybe 80-100 with again, probably 0 or very very few that are in any way significant/hurtful

    The chap has next to no chance and he knows it....


  • #6308
    GerryDerpy
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    walshb wrote: »
    If it went 9 rds I would think Floyd lands maybe 150 shots that we can see clearly as landed. Conor would likely be in a bad way, and really should be getting pulled out.....

    Conor lands maybe 80-100 with again, probably 0 or very very few that are in any way significant/hurtful

    The chap has next to no chance and he knows it....

    Do you really believe that Conor doesn't believe he will win?


  • #6309
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    walshb wrote: »
    The chap has next to no chance and he knows it....

    You keep saying this but anyone who knows Conor well or anyone who has followed his career knows his self-belief is bordering on delusion.

    He 100% does not *know* he has no chance.

    He believes he will beat Floyd. You're free to call him nuts but I've no doubt in my mind he believes he will win. Everyone who knows Conor well is adamant he believes he will win too.


  • #6310
    walshb
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    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Do you really believe that Conor doesn't believe he will win?

    Absolutely.....

    And anyone thinking he does is kind of insulting to him.

    The chap is in it for a payday, and best of luck to him. He's not stupid. He is a career fighter and he is a boxing fan. He knows damn well what is in front of him.

    Unless you can climb into his mind than you cannot know. I suppose nor can I, but it's far more likely that he knows that his chances of winning are ridiculously slim

    But if he believes that he has a ridiculously slim chance to win then yes he believes he can win.


  • #6311
    Gamebred
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    I give McGregor probably 0.01% but I will agree with the above, he 100% believes he will ko Floyd of course theres no way to prove but I'd bet my life on it, hes an obsessed borderline crazy when it comes to his opponents.


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  • #6312
    walshb
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    Does anyone believe that his team believe he can win, and I mean really believe, not the ridiculously slim chance belief?


  • #6313
    walshb
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    I give McGregor probably 0.01% but I will agree with the above, he 100% believes he will ko Floyd of course theres no way to prove but I'd bet my life on it, hes an obsessed borderline crazy when it comes to his opponents.

    He sure has fooled a lot of you...


  • #6314
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,453 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Conor has more chance at beating the reigning UFC HW champion, Stipe Miocic than beating Floyd.

    If he somehow got to fight Stipe Miocic would you guys also believe that he believes he would win?


  • #6315
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    walshb wrote: »
    Does anyone believe that his team believe he can win, and I mean really believe, not the ridiculously slim chance belief?

    Have you watched the Roddy interview with Ariel Helwani on the MMA hour? I believed it.


  • #6316
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    walshb wrote: »
    Conor has more chance at beating the reigning UFC HW champion, Stipe Miocic than beating Floyd.

    If he somehow got to fight Stipe Miocic would you guys also believe that he believes he would win?

    The laws of physics overrule anybody's belief in my world. Floyd is smaller than Conor.


  • #6317
    walshb
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    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Have you watched the Roddy interview with Ariel Helwani on the MMA hour? I believed it.

    No, but sure what does that mean? He's hardly going to be truthful as regards what he truly believes for his friend and man.


  • #6318
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Ps walshb can we come up with a forfeit for you if Conor KOs the invisible Floyd? :-D


  • #6319
    wonderfullife
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    walshb wrote: »
    Conor has more chance at beating the reigning UFC HW champion, Stipe Miocic than beating Floyd.

    If he somehow got to fight Stipe Miocic would you guys also believe that he believes he would win?

    Frankly you're revealing your ignorance now trying to compare a 172lb man fighting a guy who consistently weighs in at 245lbs with Conor v Floyd.

    You're also revealing complete ignorance of every aspect of Conor's personality, history and career by saying he "doesn't believe he will win". Owen Roddy, John Kavanagh, Artem Lobov (basically every member of his Coaching set-up) have 100% belief in Conor.

    Conor himself 100% believes he will win. You've every right to call them delusional clowns but to constantly state as fact they are all lying is ridiculous.

    Conor believes he will win. Full stop.


  • #6320
    GerryDerpy
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    walshb wrote: »
    No, but sure what does that mean? He's hardly going to be truthful as regards what he truly believes for his friend and man.

    Humm how can you form an opinion without watching what they say? I rate myself as a good tell of liars, I believed him.


  • #6321
    walshb
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    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    The laws of physics overrule anybody's belief in my world. Floyd is smaller than Conor.

    Well, in this comparison your theory isn't 100 percent accurate.

    1st: Conor is at least fighting MMA
    2nd: It doesn't take a massive shot to drop most men, bigger than you or not.
    3rd. Conor would likely have more chance to land a heavy punch on the UFC HW champion in an MMA contest than the hail mary KO shot on Floyd in a boxing contest.

    Very slim chance against the UFC HW champion.

    Even slimmer against Mayweather in a boxing ring under boxing rules.


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  • #6322
    walshb
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    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Humm how can you form an opinion without watching what they say? I rate myself as a good tell of liars, I believed him.

    Nobody needs to listen to or hear claims here. These guys are not going to be truthful to us the public.

    I don't care how authentic they appear to sound....

    These people are not dumb. They know fighting....


  • #6323
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    walshb wrote: »
    Well, in this comparison your theory isn't 100 percent accurate.

    1st: Conor is at least fighting MMA
    2nd: It doesn't take a massive shot to drop most men, bigger than you or not.
    3rd. Conor would likely have more chance to land a heavy punch on the UFC HW champion in an MMA contest than the hail mary KO shot on Floyd in a boxing contest.

    Very slim chance against the UFC HW champion.

    Even slimmer against Mayweather in a boxing ring under boxing rules.

    I think it was you that said Conor would be done for murder if he fought Katie Taylor. It is the same scenario against a heavyweight so you are being a hypocrite.


  • #6324
    GerryDerpy
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    walshb wrote: »
    Nobody needs to listen to or hear claims here. These guys are not going to be truthful to us the public.

    I don't care how authentic they appear to sound....

    These people are not dumb. They know fighting....

    Do you think people truely believe in God? Do you need to hear them speak? They are not dumb after all.

    Edit: just being sarcastic with that analogy before you bite my head off :-D


  • #6325
    walshb
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    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    I think it was you that said Conor would be done for murder if he fought Katie Taylor. It is the same scenario against a heavyweight so you are being a hypocrite.

    What has Katie got to do with this?

    I am comparing Conor vs. UFC HW champion in an MMA fight vs. Conor against Floyd in a boxing ring, and you bring up Katie Taylor?....:rolleyes:

    Unless you are trying to tie in your laws of physics reason, which I have already debunked

    Katie is a smaller woman. Conor decimates her in any combat sport.


  • #6326
    Gamebred
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    Have to agree with Walshy B would sooner bet on him beating Stipe.


  • #6327
    GerryDerpy
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    walshb wrote: »
    What has Katie got to do with this?

    I am comparing Conor vs. UFC HW champion in an MMA fight vs. Conor against Floyd in a boxing ring, and you bring up Katie Taylor?....:rolleyes:

    No no I am not letting you away with that. You said Conor would be done for murder against Katie Taylor because of the size difference. It is the exact same with HW champ. Skill is irrelevant. Conor would have no chance. Less chance than vs Floyd to answer your question.


  • #6328
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


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  • #6329
    walshb
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    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    No no I am not letting you away with that. You said Conor would be done for murder against Katie Taylor because of the size difference. It is the exact same with HW champ. Skill is irrelevant. Conor would have no chance. Less chance than vs Floyd to answer your question.

    Ridiculous analogy, and you know it....

    See my post. In case you don't know, Katie is female. Size difference is one reason. But not D only reason. And I clearly mentioned this when I said that a few days ago. So, if you want to be clear, include exactly my reasoning.

    Conor has more chance vs UFC HW champion. Simple as that.


  • #6330
    wonderfullife
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    walshb wrote: »
    Ridiculous analogy, and you know it....

    See my post. In case you don't know, Katie is female. Size difference is one reason. But not D only reason. And I clearly mentioned this when I said that a few days ago. So, if you want to be clear, include exactly my reasoning.

    Conor has more chance vs UFC HW champion. Simple as that.

    Yeah you were wrong the first and second time you said it and you're still wrong now.

    Gamebred has lost the plot also.

    But answer me this Walshb:

    By your logic, you believe Floyd Mayweather has more chance of beating Anthony Joshua in boxing than he does of beating Conor in MMA?


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  • #6331
    GerryDerpy
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    walshb wrote: »
    Ridiculous analogy, and you know it....

    See my post. In case you don't know, Katie is female. Size difference is one reason. But not D only reason. And I clearly mentioned this when I said that a few days ago. So, if you want to be clear, include exactly my reasoning.

    Conor has more chance vs UFC HW champion. Simple as that.

    Her voice had me fooled :-)

    The reason she has no chance is due to the relative difference in ability to supply and or receive kinetic energy. I believe that is comparable to Conor vs Stipe. I cannot see a scenario where conor wins. You asked the question - that is my answer and reason.


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