Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

wonderfullife · 20-06-2017 04:58PM

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Would be cool to have an Irish cut person. We have some great men and women working cuts in corners up and down the country. Would nice nice if they got a nod if possible.

I agree with the sentiment but I'd like to see someone like Stitch who is very used to the big fights under the bright lights.

It's going to be the biggest stage possible and you'd think it'd be wise to pick someone with that experience.

In saying that, they might go with someone like Joe Clifford because he'd know John from his work with SafeMMA and he's also UFC affiliated.

MartyMcFly84 · 20-06-2017 05:13PM

I would wonder how much better Stitch would be to another high level experienced cut person, I have no doubt he is good a his job and has lots of high profile experience but I am dubious he has some special ability that hundreds of other good cut people don't have.

wonderfullife · 20-06-2017 05:39PM

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

I would wonder how much better Stitch would be to another high level experienced cut person, I have no doubt he is good a his job and has lots of high profile experience but I am dubious he has some special ability that hundreds of other good cut people don't have.

I've no idea. I'm just guessing but in a high pressured event and limited time between rounds and a lot of hustle & bustle, you'd want someone who is quick, efficient and calm.

I mean look at what happened in the UFC with Yair Rodriguez. That was shameful corner-work from the cut-man, he didn't put the enswell once on the area he needed to but did attend to the cut on the bridge of the nose.

It didn't make much difference in the end but you don't want a cut-man making mistakes in a fight like this, especially as Conor might well be needing good corner work on cuts.

20-06-2017 06:17PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

I mean look at what happened in the UFC with Yair Rodriguez. That was shameful corner-work from the cut-man, he didn't put the enswell once on the area he needed to but did attend to the cut on the bridge of the nose.

There were suggestions at the time that the cutman acted appropriately. Rogan is kind of a neanderthal and understands things only on the most basic level.

Gamebred · 20-06-2017 09:17PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVkut7vgp8E/?taken-by=thenotoriousmma

Sensei Portal to be his 4th corner man.

Inviere · 20-06-2017 09:28PM

Gamebred wrote: »

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVkut7vgp8E/?taken-by=thenotoriousmma

Sensei Portal to be his 4th corner man.

The top knot is gone...shit just got real...

Burial. · 20-06-2017 09:56PM

Lobov and Portal are frauding a living in that camp.

Danye · 20-06-2017 10:02PM

Gamebred wrote: »

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVkut7vgp8E/?taken-by=thenotoriousmma

Sensei Portal to be his 4th corner man.

Any idea what gym that is?

cloudatlas · 20-06-2017 10:23PM

Ido, thank god you're here!

Depp · 20-06-2017 10:30PM

Gamebred wrote: »

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVkut7vgp8E/?taken-by=thenotoriousmma

Sensei Portal to be his 4th corner man.

Floyd is fcuked now. Hes never seen movement like this. 1st roung KO.

Gamebred · 20-06-2017 10:34PM

Outlaw Pete · 21-06-2017 12:00AM

In fairness, Floyd would have no answers for this.

Frank Bullitt · 21-06-2017 12:14AM

Does Schuab do drugs like Rogan, or was this his first time?

McGregor is fast and has power, but not like Canelo...thats an insane thing to be saying.

Gamebred · 21-06-2017 12:24AM

Gintonious wrote: »

Does Schuab do drugs like Rogan, or was this his first time?

McGregor is fast and has power, but not like Canelo...thats an insane thing to be saying.

He is some moron, thinks he has life by the balls now never shuts up about his ''sold out stand up sets'' like hes Kevin Hart, I'd love Max to call his shot and take a 100k off him, he was also all over Ronda to beat Nunes not long ago.

Frank Bullitt · 21-06-2017 12:33AM

Gamebred wrote: »

He is some moron, thinks he has life by the balls now never shuts up about his ''sold out stand up sets'' like hes Kevin Hart, I'd love Max to call his shot and take a 100k off him, he was also all over Ronda to beat Nunes not long ago.

He got really bent out of shape there, even the Lomanchenko and Dillashaw sparring, Loma was in cruise control and he said it took him 4 rounds to get used to his distance.

Stop drinking all that coffee, pal.

Django99 · 21-06-2017 12:54AM

Could only watch that for about 3 minutes. Schaub is talking so much nonsense there it's actually incredible. Almost everything he said in the first couple of minutes was mindless waffle.

I generally like him and he's good on Rogans fight companions, but he's really gone way too deep into this. The reasons he's giving for McGregor having a chance against Mayweather make absolutely no sense.

Depp · 21-06-2017 01:05AM

Gintonious wrote: »

Does Schuab do drugs like Rogan, or was this his first time?

McGregor is fast and has power, but not like Canelo...thats an insane thing to be saying.

Personally don't see it going down the same way as schaub does, conor to win rounds is a bit of a stretch for me but has anyone in here considered god forbid that the guy who works analysis for boxing/mma might know more than randoms on the internet?

:D

Gamebred · 21-06-2017 01:10AM

Depp wrote: »

Personally don't see it going down the same way as schaub does, conor to win rounds is a bit of a stretch for me but has anyone in here considered god forbid that the guy who works analysis for boxing/mma might know more than randoms on the internet? :D

The guy sitting beside him is an Olympic boxing medalist, Schaub was a journeyman mma fighter yet went on like he knows more than Jeffries (wouldnt let him get a word in)

Clueless he is I dont know why I click on his videos and put money in his pocket but hes comedy gold with his views I used to think he was doing it for controversy.

martyos121 · 21-06-2017 01:12AM

Depp wrote: »

Personally don't see it going down the same way as schaub does, conor to win rounds is a bit of a stretch for me but has anyone in here considered god forbid that the guy who works analysis for boxing/mma might know more than randoms on the internet? :D

I think Ben Rothwell ground and pounded all the knowledge and sense out of Brendan Schaub in 2012. :pac:

Gamebred · 21-06-2017 01:15AM

martyos121 wrote: »

I think Ben Rothwell ground and pounded all the knowledge and sense out of Brendan Schaub in 2012. :pac:

Frank Bullitt · 21-06-2017 01:15AM

Depp wrote: »

Personally don't see it going down the same way as schaub does, conor to win rounds is a bit of a stretch for me but has anyone in here considered god forbid that the guy who works analysis for boxing/mma might know more than randoms on the internet? :D

I was listening until he said that McGregor was faster than anyone Mayweather had fought...Manny Pacquiao would beg to differ.

Ultimate Seduction · 21-06-2017 01:22AM

https://youtu.be/ZNgb0MwJUdk

Superman punch KO.

Django99 · 21-06-2017 01:24AM

Depp wrote: »

Personally don't see it going down the same way as schaub does, conor to win rounds is a bit of a stretch for me but has anyone in here considered god forbid that the guy who works analysis for boxing/mma might know more than randoms on the internet? :D

Just because he competed doesn't mean his opinion is going to make sense. The same man had to be told by Joe Rogan that he's not a top level fighter. He felt that he would surprise people in a wrestling match with Cain Velasquez. His opinions carry less weight for me than a lot of posters on this forum alone.

The idea that someone has to have competed at the top level for their opinion to have a solid basis is absurd. Equally, the idea that just because someone competed at the top level that their opinion has a solid basis, is also absurd.

Jesus Wept · 21-06-2017 01:42AM

Having watched this, it appears Mayweather is goosed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHWSsvm17Fk

wonderfullife · 21-06-2017 01:53AM

Danye wrote: »

Any idea what gym that is?

I could be wrong but I believe it's a unit expansion at SBG.

Basically they just rented out the unit beside the gym and slapped a boxing ring, equipment and a big mural into it.

Gamebred · 21-06-2017 02:07AM

Thinking outloud here but anyone fancying Conor in this are backing him to do what the likes of Manuel Marquez Canelo Hatton Oscar Manny Mosley Maidana Cotto and so many more couldnt do, the more I think of this the more delusional I find anyone giving him a prayer his only hope is Floyd breaking a leg.

wonderfullife · 21-06-2017 02:25AM

Eddie Hearn:

"I'm talking to Sky and we're looking to carry the Mcgregor-Mayweather PPV. Conor is a legend don't get me wrong, an amazing self-promoter, yet I personally can't see him landing a glove for 12 rounds but the interest around the fight is insane and I believe it beats the Mayweather-Pacquiao PPV numbers".

Goes on:

"Canelo-GGG is going to be absolutely swamped by this fight, it's pure tactics by (Showtime/Mayweather) but great tactics to go before them. I had talked to Sky about carrying the Canelo-GGG PPV before this announcement but I believe only hardcore boxing fans are going to pay £16.95 for it at half-four in the morning".

Sounds to me like Sky going all-in on Conor-Floyd.

Call Me Jimmy · 21-06-2017 02:27AM

I've been revisiting my idea that there might be a somewhat competitive round or 2 at the start. I'm starting to believe the mayweather hype :P

Django99 · 21-06-2017 02:44AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Thinking outloud here but anyone fancying Conor in this are backing him to do what the likes of Manuel Marquez Canelo Hatton Oscar Manny Mosley Maidana Cotto and so many more couldnt do, the more I think of this the more delusional I find anyone giving him a prayer his only hope is Floyd breaking a leg.

Well if we take emotion out of opinion and use just logic, the above is the only conclusion you could come to. The fact that McGregor doesn't belong in the ring with Mayweather is in no way a put down to McGregor. Some of the names you have mentioned above are some a time boxing greats, and they didn't look like they belonged in the ring with Mayweather.

The McGregor attitude of nothing is impossible is a noble one, no doubt. And it's gotten him to the top of the MMA world, first time two belt holder, knocked out an MMA legend in 13 seconds, put on great shows against Diaz even in defeat, headlined the first MMA card in MSG. All extraordinary achievements.

But to think he is the man to finally defeat Mayweather is delusional. There is no logical way to make him anything but a 20/1+ outsider (I make him much, much higher odds than that).

The fact that the fight is happening, and that it will probably be in the top two selling boxing PPVs of all time, shows that the general public do not understand combat sports. They do not seem to realise that boxing and MMA are different sports.

wonderfullife · 21-06-2017 03:01AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Thinking outloud here but anyone fancying Conor in this are backing him to do what the likes of Manuel Marquez Canelo Hatton Oscar Manny Mosley Maidana Cotto and so many more couldnt do, the more I think of this the more delusional I find anyone giving him a prayer his only hope is Floyd breaking a leg.

Trevor Berbick, Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks and Frank Bruno couldn't do a thing against Tyson in the 1980's. Spinks was undefeated going into the contest, 30-0, and didn't even last a round against Iron Mike. Tony Tucker at least took him the distance but he was still beaten handily.

Along comes Buster Douglas, a guy Mike just over-looked and took for granted, and not only was he KO'd by that uppercut and follow-up punches, he was also getting beat up for the 9 rounds that came before it.

I don't think it's delusional for people to fancy Conor to connect with a good punch. It might be outlandish to think that said punch KO's Floyd stiff, but it's not delusional. Floyd has been hit clean many times, he's not a robot.

Conor is an underdog for a reason. He's unlikely to win the fight.

But, again, Floyd isn't some flawless boxer. Look at the straight left down the pipe Judah lands at 2:01 below. There was no fancy set-up to the punch, just 2 pawing jabs, a slight step-in and a straight left. Conor has many times gone to pawing jabs and straight lefts, he landed them clean against Buchinger, clean against Diaz and Alvarez too.

I'd love to hear someone explain to me why Conor couldn't land the shot Judah landed in identical circumstances. He's an accurate puncher and there was no sophistication or footwork involved from Zab.

2:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ofeqQ_ljCk

Conor dropping Nate with identical combo - a double right-jab, step-in, straight left 8:27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GMwRQWjRPA

Conor dropping Eddie with right jab, step-in, straight left 9:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWz36gow2ic

Landing right jab, step-in, straight left on Max 0.45:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnNiY1GkqOg

TL;DR - Floyd might be the best boxer in the last 30 years but if he plants his feet like he did against Judah and stands in front of Conor, then yes 100% Conor will land that straight left down the middle.

Floyd also recovers like a boss, so even if Conor does land clean I don't know if it'll make much difference. I'm obviously hoping he can put him on wobbly legs.

Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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