Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

jcd5971

Gamebred wrote:

2 fights with Floyd and Chino became a rich obese dude, hope Conor doesnt follow this blue print.

Fair point, however he doesn't look that fat even, let alone obese

Why do I keep watching this :pac:

Gamebred

Mellor

If any one is curious, that's what $1.7m looks like. Not as big as you'd think it is.

Outlaw Pete

After all that hard working of watching your weight for years it's inevitably that some just eat all round them when they hang up the gloves.

Hatton sure seems to be enjoying his money in that regard anyway............ and sure why not.

EagererBeaver

Hamed...

Gamebred

Hatton was in muck shape during his career he'd balloon up to mad weights while out of training camp, junk food beer and coke being the reason, compare that to Floyd and Manny and thats why they were just a notch above him imo, Rooney in football is similar wolfs down smokes not in great shape compare him with Ronaldo a proper athlete, anyways im gone way off top ic.

Outlaw Pete

Owen Roddy is on the MMA Hour later today (6pm)..... might get some insights into what McGregor's plans are re training and how early they'll start training out there. I'd imagine their setup will be similar to Diaz II.

Hope Roddy plans to make the vlogs for this and won't be hindered by Showtime or Mayweather Promotions with regards to copyrights etc.


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Django99

everlast75 wrote: »

Hang on a sec - McGregor hasn't said anything about feigning a kick or bringing up domestic abuse charges.

And who says they are his two biggest weapons.. I mean, other than you?

I think his "big weapons" might be that he is a phenomenal mma fighter (fact) in his prime (fact) with unprecedented success in that sport (fact) with an ability to get in his opponent's head before a fight (fact)?

Nothing to do with that then?

Nope?

Okay - carry on then.

And before you call me a fan boy or anything like that, I don't believe he will win the fight.. but if by a f**king miracle that he does, I will admit I was wrong on here and look forward to all other boardsies magnanimously doing the same.

I haven't said either of those are his weapons. But about 5 pages of posts here have come up with those two as his big advantages. My point is that neither of those things will help him win the fight.

If he wins the fight I will also admit to being wrong. If I was to assign a probability to him winning I'd put it at about 1 in 500. I'd give a man off the street a chance of about 1 in 5000.

So yes, I make him 10 times more likely than a random person winning. Still not likely in any sense of the word though.

Sweet Science

I love Floyds condescending back handed compliments he uses for all his opponents .

In an interview over the weekend he said Conor 'is a hell of a competitor'

wonderfullife

walshb wrote: »

One thing I don't want, and I don't see it here or anywhere to be honest, is for Conor to be hurt and physically humiliated. How anyone could want that is sad.

I just haven't heard any vocal voices of concern.

Well, you need to read the thread more

wonderfullife wrote: »

There's a huge downside to this for Conor - he might get beaten to a pulp and sustain damage that could keep him out of fighting for 6 months or a year or worse..... Heaven forbid but bad stuff can happen in combat sports.

I can't believe people think there's no risk in this for Conor when there's clearly a huge risk. Floyd might not have hands of stone but there's a very real danger that he hurts Conor badly.

wonderfullife wrote: »

I don't like the way his detractors seem to cover both sides of the coin. If people believe Floyd will batter him, then it's only fair to highlight the risk Conor's taking in getting in the ring with him.

If Conor is destined to lose, I'd much prefer he was KO'd in the 1st minute than beaten up for 36 minutes.

wonderfullife wrote: »

.... acknowledge there's a huge potential downside and risk involved in the fight from a health and career perspective.

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

Well, you need to read the thread more

I think you misinterpreted me, and seems because my post is a bit ambiguous.

I meant that on the thread or elsewhere I haven't come across any real concern for Conor's welfare in this.

I think you replied thinking I meant that nobody here is wanting him to get physically beaten and humiliated....

Maybe there are plenty here wanting him to get a hiding. That for me is nasty.

But on the other side, people not coming out in disapproval to show concern is also worrying.

What about his team, advisers, loved ones and genuine fans....?

Maybe, unsurprisingly they all just see the money......that is sad.

If the fight is legit this could be very uncomfortable viewing. And something that would be very avoidable.

It all comes down to people in positions of authority and power doing the right thing. It's not tiddly winks we are talking about.

wonderfullife

walshb wrote: »

I meant that on the thread or elsewhere I haven't come across any real concern for Conor's welfare in this.


But on the other side, people not coming out in disapproval to show concern is also worrying.

What about his team, advisers, loved ones and genuine fans....?

What are you on about now?

I literally just posted 3 posts where I said there's a very big risk to Conor's health and safety and that I'd much prefer he was KO'd inside 1 round than take a beating over 36 mins.

His team, advisers, loved ones I can't speak for but I am a *genuine* fan and I've many times said this is an extremely risky fight for Conor to take.

I've also said many times I hope John Kavanagh has that towel in his hand, ready to go, for the entire contest.

That's called "concern for his welfare". You're trying to make out that none of his fans are worried about his health being damaged in this fight, well you're just wrong (again).

walshb

And it's not just Conor's team that have responsibilities. Floyd and his team need to think hard about this....

Floyd have no issue stepping into the ring to inflict a possible life threatening beating on a man who has no pro boxing pedigree?

People may say I am overreacting, but this is one of if not the most dangerous sports on earth where a punch can kill a man. And where one man is a career professional with talent and experience against another who has nothing. We are not mismatching a tennis match.........

walshb

wonderfullife wrote: »

What are you on about now?

I literally just posted 3 posts where I said there's a very big risk to Conor's health and safety and that I'd much prefer he was KO'd inside 1 round than take a beating over 36 mins.

His team, advisers, loved ones I can't speak for but I am a *genuine* fan and I've many times said this is an extremely risky fight for Conor to take.

I've also said many times I hope John Kavanagh has that towel in his hand, ready to go, for the entire contest.

That's called "concern for his welfare". You're trying to make out that none of his fans are worried about his health being damaged in this fight, well you're just wrong (again).

So really you would prefer he didn't go ahead with it? Or maybe that would ruin your 9th rd prediction.....?

And for the record, I wasn't singling you out when I made my post....it was a general observation.

Frank Bullitt

wonderfullife wrote: »

Conor won't fight out of a shell. He won't even bob and weave.

What he does (very well) is trunk movement, pull-backs, inside and outside slips - the problem with all of that is when he gets exhausted (e.g Round 3 of Diaz 2), he finds it harder to get his head off the center line.

The reality is he'll be using his face to block a lot of punches in this contest, just like he used his face as defence against Chad Mendes. That's an ok strategy against a 145lb wrestler like Mendes to just walk through his punches but I think it will only hold up for 8 or 9 rounds against Floyd.

Not doing that against any boxer is madness, not doing it against Mayweather is pretty much handing it to him.

You don't "block" punches with your face, you take them!

Sofiztikated

walshb wrote: »

I think you misinterpreted me, and seems because my post is a bit ambiguous.

I meant that on the thread or elsewhere I haven't come across any real concern for Conor's welfare in this.

I think you replied thinking I meant that nobody here is wanting him to get physically beaten and humiliated....

Maybe there are plenty here wanting him to get a hiding. That for me is nasty.

But on the other side, people not coming out in disapproval to show concern is also worrying.

What about his team, advisers, loved ones and genuine fans....?

Maybe, unsurprisingly they all just see the money......that is sad.

If the fight is legit this could be very uncomfortable viewing. And something that would be very avoidable.

It all comes down to people in positions of authority and power doing the right thing. It's not tiddly winks we are talking about.

So you've gone from calling it a farce, fixed, and scam to being worried for Conors welfare?

wonderfullife

walshb wrote: »

So really you would prefer he didn't go ahead with it? Or maybe that would ruin your 9th rd prediction.....?

I reject any suggestion that Conor or his team are being negligent in allowing this contest to go ahead.

John Kavanagh is fundamentally a good human being and great coach. He insisted on all his team getting regular seminars on CTE, brain trauma etc.

I've no doubt that the reason his team are not voicing concerns is that they have a genuine belief that Conor can/will compete with Floyd in this contest.

You're absolutely free to belittle Conor as you have done for the last week. But you're not free to throw around an implication that Coach K and the team are failing in their duty of care to protect Conor.

The risks of head injury are present even in seasoned boxers and in seasoned MMA fighters - in both sports. Even if Conor was 25-0 in boxing, if he is hopelessly outclassed by Floyd (as you believe) then the risk is still present.

I'm absolutely fine with the fight going ahead on that basis. I trust that there is no amount of money in this world that John Kavanagh would be part of this if he believed there was too high a risk of CTE or subdural trauma.

wonderfullife

Gintonious wrote: »

Not doing that against any boxer is madness, not doing it against Mayweather is pretty much handing it to him.

You don't "block" punches with your face, you take them!

I was being *facetious*.

Conor is almost 80% trunk movement based. It's all inside slips, outside slips etc. He's not a bobber n weaver (in any of his fights). He leaves his head stationary and invites opponents to swing at him and uses trunk movement to slip and counter them.

walshb

Sofiztikated wrote: »

So you've gone from calling it a farce, fixed, and scam to being worried for Conors welfare?

If the fight is legit...

Look up what "if" means..

Frank Bullitt

wonderfullife wrote: »

I was being *facetious*.

Conor is almost 80% trunk movement based. It's all inside slips, outside slips etc. He's not a bobber n weaver (in any of his fights). He leaves his head stationary and invites opponents to swing at him and uses trunk movement to slip and counter them.

I understand why he might not move that much in an MMA fight, if you bobbed and your opponent threw a kick, that would be goodnight.

He has to work on his head movement, which I am sure you know and agree with. His "truck" style of fighting, like what Maidana used, eventually plays into Mayweathers strengths. So I reckon he will have to change that.

wonderfullife

walshb wrote: »

If the fight is legit...

Look up what "if" means..

You're honestly back to *this*?

Make up your mind...is the fight a big scam/rigged/hoax or is it a fair fight where Conor might get battered?

Oh, yeah. I remember now. You want to wait and aftertime your opinion so if Conor did well, you can call it a fix/scam.

Sofiztikated

walshb wrote: »

If the fight is legit...

Look up what "if" means..

I know what IF means. It suggests, from your point of view, that the fight is NOT legit.

wonderfullife

Gintonious wrote: »

I understand why he might not move that much in an MMA fight, if you bobbed and your opponent threw a kick, that would be goodnight.

He has to work on his head movement, which I am sure you know and agree with. His "truck" style of fighting, like what Maidana used, eventually plays into Mayweathers strengths. So I reckon he will have to change that.

Maidana had a lot of success.

One thing that I've noticed is that Floyd seems to be improving against southpaws over the years, which is obviously not good news for Conor. The idea that southpaws are his kryptonite may once have been true but it isn't now.

I still think brawlers trouble him the most.

Frank Bullitt

wonderfullife wrote: »

Maidana had a lot of success.

One thing that I've noticed is that Floyd seems to be improving against southpaws over the years, which is obviously not good news for Conor. The idea that southpaws are his kryptonite may once have been true but it isn't now.

I still think brawlers trouble him the most.

He "struggled" a tad, but he still beats them handily over a fight.

Truth of the matter is, he hasn't really struggled in a fight for years!

Burial.

Gintonious wrote: »

Not doing that against any boxer is madness, not doing it against Mayweather is pretty much handing it to him.

You don't "block" punches with your face, you take them!

Carl Froch made a fine career out of blocking punches with his face :pac:

Although going by his horrendous analysis work and calling fights on Sky recently, maybe it has affected him.

Frank Bullitt

Burial. wrote: »

Carl Froch made a fine career out of blocking punches with his face :pac:

Although going by his horrendous analysis work and calling fights on Sky recently, maybe it has affected him.

His face looked like a dropped pie after some of his fights as well.

wonderfullife

Audie Attar (Conor's agent):

"Conor will definitely fight again in MMA. He has many more athletic ambitions to achieve and the plan is to fight again before the end of the year".

Call Me Jimmy

wonderfullife wrote: »

Audie Attar (Conor's agent):

"Conor will definitely fight again in MMA. He has many more athletic ambitions to achieve and the plan is to fight again before the end of the year".

As I expected, from everything I've seen of conor he's just obsessed with fighting, it seems to be in his thoughts all the time. I did think his agent might be more poker-faced about it just to keep the ufc sweating. But maybe they knew as well as anyone that he'll be back

Fromvert

He wants that third weight belt or at least to have a crack at it. And he can get a shot if he wants it, doesn't have to fight contenders etc