Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

glasso wrote: »

show indeed.
just crazy that there is that much money out there to pay the projected sums. I guess that entertainment is entertainment.
hopefully it ends up more fun than the Pacquio fight.
I guess Mayweather has the luxury here to script the fight exactly how he wants the show to play out - hopefully he comes up with something interesting as a narrative.

McGregor is brainstorming his build-up lines right now. I wonder how far he will go in the sledging?
Although secretly McGregor loves Mayweather - Mayweather was a trailblazer in terms of showing how money was to be made.

I object to the use of a cricket term in this post

walshb wrote: »

This event, if it's not stage managed, is nothing but a novelty act.

Being a novelty act doesn't exclude it from being sport. Look at all the international friendly matches that happen every year. Many aren't remotely competitive. They are still sports.
Many competition matches aren't competitive either. New Zealand vrs Samoa in the RWC. New Zealand win about 100-3. It's still the sport of rugby.

This event if stage managed is nothing but a novelty act.

As I said above. A worked fight isn't sport. But useless you have a crystal ball, we don't know that. It would be unlikely imo.

Same if Mayweather stepped into the Octagon under MMA rules.

When James Toney stepped into the octagon it was a novelty act. It was also the sport of MMA. Being good at something isn't a prerequisite for competing in a sport.

Or more recently, CM Punk. Nonsense match. People were on here actually saying he had a chance. Lunacy, he looking like a 40 years old whitebelt in training and that's who turned up.
But it was still the sport of MMA.

When one side is so very limited and clearly handicapped then the "sporting" occasion ceases to become so.

You're swapping your words now.
I never said it was going to be sporting (in the sense of fair), in fact I specifically said that it wouldn't be.
But we were talking about it being a sport (noun) not sporting (adjective).

walshb wrote: »

Mellor, it's clear that we have different views on the real true meaning and feeling of what sport is, and what it should be, A dictionary only tells you so much.

No swapping of words. So I am clear. It not sporting and it is not sport. I have said this from the get go.

Lads can we leave it at this. We're just going round in circles. This must be the third or fourth time walshb has argued that in his opinion this isnt a sporting occasion. Whether you like it or not Mellor that is his opinion and he's entitled to it.

What sort of money has been guaranteed on the event for both fighters at this stage? Are we talking 100m Mayweather 70m McGregor(of which he'll get what 75%?)

glasso wrote: »

some talk/figures being thrown around of 200m mayweather
100m the other side -> that's the UFC and McGregor -> no idea how much McGregor gets of that of the 100m vs the UFC.

all this dependent on the ppv of course.
Mayweather side got $240m for the Macquaio borefest.

There is a guaranteed amount though before the PPV split, I am just wondering how much it is and how they've worked it out. Mayweather's promoting it as well I presume in conjunction with the UFC? It appears that it is going to be the highest PPV ever and that doesnt seem to be a doubt, these two media machines are building for it.

walshb wrote: »

Mellor, it's clear that we have different views on the real true meaning and feeling of what sport is, and what it should be, A dictionary only tells you so much.

Definitions are really a matter of opinion. The dictionary might tell us si much, but that so much is the actual meaning of words. By the actual meaning, it's a sport.

If you want to make up a figurative meaning to support you opinion, that's your choice. But it's not the true meaning as you put it, and it's a bit much to call people deluded if they don't agree with your position.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Lads can we leave it at this. We're just going round in circles. This must be the third or fourth time walshb has argued that in his opinion this isnt a sporting occasion. Whether you like it or not Mellor that is his opinion and he's entitled to it.

That's fine, happy to leave it there. I didn't see the previous times, just it post earlier. There's a lot of noise to sift through each day.
I've no issue with people giving their own personal opinion on a words meaning. It was the calling people deluded for not agreeing with those opinions that I thought was a bit much.

Anyway, back to boxing.

Anybody any thoughts on who be in the undercard? (No jokes please )
It might be a circus act main event. But it'll have lots of eyes on board. It'll be a huge opportunity to get some exposure.

Gamebred wrote: »

You're taking a risk, understandable and I'm doing the same but I can see the pro's in vegas absolutely hammering into the 1/6 on offer close to the fight, the poker pro's will have their banks on it for free money.

It is possible the sharp money could push the price that way but generally a market this big usually gets pushed by the slush money imo. I remember Floyd drifting bigger in price against Pacquiao right up until the fight.

snowflaker wrote: »

I can't imagine they're will be much of an undercard tbf. The event sells itself

No way Floyd doesn't give a couple of his boxers exposure in what will potentially be the biggest boxing event of all time. Davies and Jack are surely going to be on the undercard. Floyd's a promoter and it's his job to promote his fighters. This would seem to be a very obvious opportunity to do just that.

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

Not by the time the fight happened.

In comparison to McGregor?
Dont be silly.

Pac man is still a very good boxer and had a genuine chance against Mayweather.

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

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I'll be hoovering as much as I can afford closer to the fight. The reason I am not backing him yet is simply because I think the idiot money coming for Mcgregor side closer to the fight could push Mayweather to 1/3 or bigger.

There's a lot of people with those exact same thoughts I'd guess.
The people sticking a €10 down for the craic are slowly driving Conor's price down. But a few big bets will take everything from 1.19 back to 1.10
It's a game of buckaroo.