Dairy chit chat II

kevthegaff · 17-06-2017 10:02PM

kowtow wrote:

On the other hand we only have to look across to the UK and the amazing growth of local producers & retailers; or - maybe more importantly - to the US and yesterday's acquisition of Whole Foods Inc by Amazon. Things are changing.

kowtow wrote:

What won't change easily is the particularly difficult situation of an Island with a small population compared to production levels; particularly given the political barriers which may fall in the way of supplying the UK.

kowtow wrote:

There will always be a balance, and there should always be - unless we allow ourselves to be pulled too far towards high risk low return commodities at the expense of the sort of markets which our dairying traditions make us such a natural fit for.

Bro was in California lately, big push for organic foods (although California is prob most image conscience) America is starting to change, and I believe the rest will follow albeit the poorer populations

kowtow · 17-06-2017 10:31PM

pedigree 6 wrote:

Timmaay is in some location for an ice cream shop.

pedigree 6 wrote:

Kind of related to the above posts.

That was exactly the thought which went through my mind!

pedigree 6 · 17-06-2017 11:07PM

kowtow wrote: »

That was exactly the thought which went through my mind!

The biggest problem that Ireland has that the UK or Europe hasn't got is the mass of population that allow European or British farmers to open on farm touristy or produce shops.

Not saying it can't be done but I'd rather have such a place in Britain than here purely based on population mass.

Now that I have that excuse out the way Guinness have their storehouse and tullamore dew is building a place in tullamore and then there's that avoca crowd. But they're a lot bigger than an on farm ice cream shop. However small can be beautiful.

Water John · 17-06-2017 11:29PM

A farm shop, can't be a sort of one trick pony. I think many make that error. It needs a significant range of products. It needs a signature USP.

visatorro · 17-06-2017 11:45PM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

The biggest problem that Ireland has that the UK or Europe hasn't got is the mass of population that allow European or British farmers to open on farm touristy or produce shops.

Not saying it can't be done but I'd rather have such a place in Britain than here purely based on population mass.

Now that I have that excuse out the way Guinness have their hophouse and tullamore dew is building a place in tullamore and then there's that avoca crowd. But they're a lot bigger than an on farm ice cream shop. However small can be beautiful.

Well actually now that I think of it, if people have the money and are stupid enough to shop in avoca then my argument is out the window. It's daylight robbery but always packed.!

Water John · 17-06-2017 11:50PM

Vista, I think you don't understand the phychology of women.
Same as myself.

visatorro · 17-06-2017 11:57PM

Water John wrote: »

Vista, I think you don't understand the phychology of women.
Same as myself.

My present and beautiful partner paid 12 euro for 6 slices of ham and a fiver for a coffee. She wouldn't tell me the price of anything else she bought because she said I'd be giving out about the price. Just aswell!

Water John · 18-06-2017 12:03AM

And we are all lectured on price being the only factor.

Username John · 18-06-2017 12:15AM

visatorro wrote: »

My present and beautiful partner paid 12 euro for 6 slices of ham and a fiver for a coffee. She wouldn't tell me the price of anything else she bought because she said I'd be giving out about the price. Just aswell!

I don't drink coffee, but I know one or two people who would be big into it... and if twas good, they wouldn't worry about the price...

But then, on the other side of it - a lot of lads will pay 4euro for a middling pint, and go on to drink 4 or 5 more of em, all the while half giving out about em...

whelan2 · 18-06-2017 09:50AM

When you give eprinex and the cow goes back in her milk, how long should it be until it goes back to normal. She's eating fine

Buckmickley · 18-06-2017 10:01AM

Sent a batch of milk pregnancy samples to IML in Cavan who do it for progressive genetics on Tuesday
Rang on Thursday and they confirmed they'd got them
No results yet
We'll see if I have them Monday
It's not a great turn around is it?

Nearly a week when they promise next day

GrasstoMilk · 18-06-2017 10:53AM

whelan2 wrote: »

When you give eprinex and the cow goes back in her milk, how long should it be until it goes back to normal. She's eating fine

I've had quiet a few dry up after I wormed them this year. Decided I'm not using a pour on at dry off again. Must have been a massive amount of worm in them to make them dry up. Never had that when I used a white drench

whelan2 · 18-06-2017 10:55AM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

I've had quiet a few dry up after I wormed them this year. Decided I'm not using a pour on at dry off again. Must have been a massive amount of worm in them to make them dry up. Never had that when I used a white drench

Do you do the Glanbia milk screening test?

visatorro · 18-06-2017 10:59AM

Buckmickley wrote: »

Sent a batch of milk pregnancy samples to IML in Cavan who do it for progressive genetics on Tuesday
Rang on Thursday and they confirmed they'd got them
No results yet
We'll see if I have them Monday
It's not a great turn around is it?

Nearly a week when they promise next day

I did it a couple of times thru progressive, not sure what lab it goes to. Found alot of them came back inconclusive so I'd end up scanning anyway. Just handled cows this year, at least I'd a fair idea where I was.

whelan2 · 18-06-2017 11:00AM

visatorro wrote: »

I did it a couple of times thru progressive, not sure what lab it goes to. Found alot of them came back inconclusive so I'd end up scanning anyway. Just handled cows this year, at least I'd a fair idea where I was.

How much does the milk sampling cost? Prefer to see the foetus myself

GrasstoMilk · 18-06-2017 11:25AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Do you do the Glanbia milk screening test?

Yeah been doing it for a good few years. Work count was low on our first test but I'd still say there was a few with a lot of worms

visatorro · 18-06-2017 11:25AM

whelan2 wrote: »

How much does the milk sampling cost? Prefer to see the foetus myself

I can't remember exactly but remember thinking it was no cheaper than scanning

Mooooo · 18-06-2017 11:27AM

3 Euro I think, nearly prefer a day scanning to a milk recording

whelan2 · 18-06-2017 11:36AM

Mooooo wrote: »

3 Euro I think, nearly prefer a day scanning to a milk recording

If you have exact dates it's probably fine but if bull has been in scanning would be better

Buckmickley · 18-06-2017 12:19PM

It's actually €3.65 per sample and I only did the AI'ed cows that were at least 30 days
I'm not sure it's worth it with this delay

Mooooo · 18-06-2017 12:39PM

It's 3.50 to scan plus call out if vet, dunno what other scanner s charges

whelan2 · 18-06-2017 12:53PM

Buckmickley wrote: »

It's actually €3.65 per sample and I only did the AI'ed cows that were at least 30 days
I'm not sure it's worth it with this delay

Is postage included?

Buckmickley · 18-06-2017 12:57PM

Nope!
But you can leave the samples down with the local PG technician on the morning he gets his deliveries and they'll send it free presumably with batches of milk recordings

Postage cost me €4.70

kowtow · 18-06-2017 01:50PM

Buckmickley wrote: »

Nope!
But you can leave the samples down with the local PG technician on the morning he gets his deliveries and they'll send it free presumably with batches of milk recordings

Postage cost me €4.70

Have done the Munster one before at Milk recording. Worked accurately for us, anyway.

I'm tempted to sample again this week but we are a month or two off the next milk recording - does anyone know can we get sample jars and send in to Munster ourselves?

yosemitesam1 · 18-06-2017 01:52PM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

I've had quiet a few dry up after I wormed them this year. Decided I'm not using a pour on at dry off again. Must have been a massive amount of worm in them to make them dry up. Never had that when I used a white drench

Those doses are very hard on the system your insides would take a week or two to be right after

Mooooo · 19-06-2017 09:53AM

why is it always the cow that's incalf for Feb and nothing wrong otherwise that keeps getting the habit of knocking the wire, pain in the hole esp when crossing the road. The same prick would roar all night if she didn't get her ration then

trixi2011 · 19-06-2017 01:41PM

Looking for info from Anyone on here have to deal with an outbreak of staff auroes mastitis ?

mahoney_j · 19-06-2017 02:05PM

trixi2011 wrote: »

Looking for info from Anyone on here have to deal with an outbreak of staff auroes mastitis ?

Probably not what u want but if u know the culprits then cull them ,very hard if not impossible cure and very contagious beteween cows

trixi2011 · 19-06-2017 02:43PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Probably not what u want but if u know the culprits then cull them ,very hard if not impossible cure and very contagious beteween cows

2 hanging already milk recording today to see if we find any more everyone you talk to seems to say cull them.

GrasstoMilk · 19-06-2017 06:09PM

trixi2011 wrote: »

2 hanging already milk recording today to see if we find any more everyone you talk to seems to say cull them.

Cluster dip ASAP until you find culprits. We have it here **** of a yoke. Any cow that gets mastitis costs up on 20€ to treat between tubes and injection never mind the lost milk

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