Tesco at Liffey Valley

The_Morrigan · 30-06-2013 10:50AM

lord lucan wrote: »

From reading the submissions,it appears upgrades means some new toucan crossings at St. Lomans/Fonthill(LV roundabout),and Coldcut road and the creation of a slip lane at the roundabout on the Fonthill opposite the Fonthill retail park.

The idea of a ped crossing at the liffey valley roundabout is frightening. Traffic at peak times is horrendous as it is around there and a ped crossing is going to make it considerably worse.

Not for the pedestrians... I live in St. Eds there are its a game of chicken every day with the traffic, there isn't even a path to get to the bus stop by the hermitage.

lord lucan · 30-06-2013 10:53AM

The_Morrigan wrote: »

Not for the pedestrians... I live in St. Eds there are its a game of chicken every day with the traffic, there isn't even a path to get to the bus stop by the hermitage.

You'd be quicker walking through mt Andrew and over the footbridge to the bus stop at sureweld I reckon.

Merch · 30-06-2013 01:32PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

Doubt it, the one in Lucan is decent open 24 hour and does decent business all hours, if anyone of them was to be closed probably be the one in Clondalkin village which is a dump.

Decent? I think not

Routinely have experienced prices not as displayed/charged incorrectly
And to top it off the staff have declined to support that, what exactly is the policy on pricing errors?
I thought it was your money back and the item for free, I heard someone here say double the difference, well in Lucan I was offered the difference at best and had to insist after a number of price problems which I let go, but when the problem persisted, they refused to acknowledge it, just offering me the difference. I disliked having to insist on it.
I stopped going there for a while but its convenience swayed me, on return, Im dismayed to see the number of times I have seen what look like underagers served alcohol without a hint of requesting an ID (whats more annoying is that its the Irish staff, both young and old that serve them) or obviously young teenagers hanging around in the self checkout area with a slab of beer trying (badly) to look not obvious.

Cant say Im happy about Tescos opening in LV for a number of reasons particularily the above, it will be convenient assuming the traffic doesnt get worse, hopefully they will enforce what I assume is their actual policy of not serving underage individuals alcohol by the slab or spirits. They should make the self service non alcohol.

The Lucan shop is crap, clondalkin one is questionable too. Ive seen the above in Tallaght also, so I can only assume its defacto policy to not honour their price error refund commitment and serve alcohol in most/all their stores to juveniles.

Id honestly have preferred if Dunnes had opened a grocery store in LV but as they have one in Clondalkin I cant see it.

josh59 · 01-07-2013 09:14AM

Marty McFly wrote: »

Doubt it, the one in Lucan is decent open 24 hour and does decent business all hours, if anyone of them was to be closed probably be the one in Clondalkin village which is a dump.

The Tesco in Lucan seems to go through phases of being tarted up - which has happened recently. I remember speaking to one of the Tesco head-office people a few years ago and he did say that over the years they had made attempts to get planning permission to extend the shop but this had been turned down. All that they have done over the years is given the place a bit of a facelift - which they have done recently.

Doesn't hide the fact that it's a pretty crap shop - they seem to change managers on a regular basis. Anytime I'm there the staff seem to spend their time discussing their love/social/personal lives in front of customers, and if they're not doing that they're outside in the car park smoking.

Probably the best supermarket in the general Lucan / Clondalkin area is Dunnes in the Mill Centre - always well stocked, clean and well managed - and good value for money.

Superquinn prices are a joke - in the Lucan shop anyway.

Marty McFly · 01-07-2013 12:39PM

josh59 wrote: »

The Tesco in Lucan seems to go through phases of being tarted up - which has happened recently. I remember speaking to one of the Tesco head-office people a few years ago and he did say that over the years they had made attempts to get planning permission to extend the shop but this had been turned down. All that they have done over the years is given the place a bit of a facelift - which they have done recently.

Doesn't hide the fact that it's a pretty crap shop - they seem to change managers on a regular basis. Anytime I'm there the staff seem to spend their time discussing their love/social/personal lives in front of customers, and if they're not doing that they're outside in the car park smoking.

Probably the best supermarket in the general Lucan / Clondalkin area is Dunnes in the Mill Centre - always well stocked, clean and well managed - and good value for money.

Superquinn prices are a joke - in the Lucan shop anyway.

Hmmm maybe m high view of the Tesco in Lucan stems from how bad the one in Clondalkin Village is, plus with it being 24hours it suits me perfect as someone who works shift work I love being able to pop in at 2a.m and being able to do my shopping.

phasers · 09-07-2013 10:55AM

This thread made me look this up to see if there was any progress on this and I found an article from the Herald dated May of this year:

A HUGE €25m extension to the Liffey Valley Shopping Centre will mean hundreds of new jobs.

The granting of planning permission for the development by South Dublin County Council was warmly welcomed by Mr O'Connell.

But he was unable to give a start date, or a projected opening date, saying any possible planning appeals would have to be completed first.

He confirmed 670 new jobs would result from the new development. That includes the construction jobs. Post-construction, there will be 400 to 450 new jobs. "Currently, there are 2,270 people employed at Liffey Valley," said Mr O'Connell.

A new three-storey 70,000 sq ft store will be constructed but the identity of the company in negotiations to become a new tenant could not be disclosed yet for commercial reasons, he said.

"I can confirm, however, the new business will not be a supermarket, as current contracts excludes that possibility," he said.

Does this mean there'll be no Tesco? Seems like M&S must have some sort of clause in their contract?

Also, does this also mean that we will finally get a Penneys in Liffey Valley?

Snake Plisken · 07-08-2013 07:00PM

It would be good if we did get a pennys in Liffey Valley and hopefully HMV will open back up soon. Think there was a rumour at one stage of building a new Tesco's in Adamstown, which I think would have been a better location then Liffey Valley. What Lucan really needs is a Dunnes supermarket.

pjproby · 07-08-2013 07:07PM

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/green-light-for-south-dublin-tesco-superstore-1.1438990
seems to imply that Tesco will be there.

Marty McFly · 08-08-2013 03:35PM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

It would be good if we did get a pennys in Liffey Valley and hopefully HMV will open back up soon. Think there was a rumour at one stage of building a new Tesco's in Adamstown, which I think would have been a better location then Liffey Valley. What Lucan really needs is a Dunnes supermarket.

HMV shuld be open later this month or early September.

Since Liffey Valley is in Clondalkin, Lucan could do with a lot of things

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IvySlayer · 08-08-2013 07:35PM

Yes I've heard rumours a Pennys will be built there.

Still think Liffey Valley is the worst designed shopping centre in Ireland. It could of easily been 2 storey and fit double the amount of shops in it.

ctrl-alt-delete · 10-08-2013 02:09PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

HMV shuld be open later this month or early September.

Since Liffey Valley is in Clondalkin, Lucan could do with a lot of things .

I actually preferred the name Quarryvale

Sheep Shagger · 10-08-2013 02:15PM

Interesting as Tesco said only last week that they are ending their 'massive store' expansion plan going for slightly smaller stores in future as seems people don't like that concept anymore.

lord lucan · 20-03-2015 12:29AM

Just thought I'd bump this as I believe tesco handed back all the paperwork and planning permission for the liffey Valley site and won't be preceding with a store there. No surprise given their market position in Ireland lately.

Snake Plisken · 20-03-2015 02:33AM

lord lucan wrote: »

Just thought I'd bump this as I believe tesco handed back all the paperwork and planning permission for the liffey Valley site and won't be preceding with a store there. No surprise given their market position in Ireland lately.

Maybe Dunnes might decide to setup there instead, one thing sorely lacking in Lucan is a Dunnes Grocery store.

average_runner · 20-03-2015 10:32AM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Maybe Dunnes might decide to setup there instead, one thing sorely lacking in Lucan is a Dunnes Grocery store.

Dunnes wouldn't be big enough for that spot and its not their style

unkel · 21-03-2015 12:52AM

lord lucan wrote: »

Just thought I'd bump this as I believe tesco handed back all the paperwork and planning permission for the liffey Valley site and won't be preceding with a store there. No surprise given their market position in Ireland lately.

Thanks for the update. Any linky BTW? Disappointing news all the same. They're signing their own death warrant imho. Are they surprised they are losing market share if in a major population centre like Lucan / Adamstown they only have that dilapidated old store in Dodsboro?

Many years ago I did most of my shopping there. I have to say that I only go there these days once in a while and mostly using competitors or their own vouchers

Tesco still has about 24% market share iirc. One wonders why. This is likely to go down. Aldi + Lidl went from about 5% to about 15% over the last decade and are very likely to increase by a percentage point a year for many years to come.

lord lucan · 21-03-2015 01:39AM

unkel wrote: »

Thanks for the update. Any linky BTW?

No link unfortunately, the wife works for a local retailer who was vehemently against it and was told that tesco had dropped the plan.

average_runner · 23-03-2015 11:29AM

unkel wrote: »

Thanks for the update. Any linky BTW? Disappointing news all the same. They're signing their own death warrant imho. Are they surprised they are losing market share if in a major population centre like Lucan / Adamstown they only have that dilapidated old store in Dodsboro?

Many years ago I did most of my shopping there. I have to say that I only go there these days once in a while and mostly using competitors or their own vouchers

Tesco still has about 24% market share iirc. One wonders why. This is likely to go down. Aldi + Lidl went from about 5% to about 15% over the last decade and are very likely to increase by a percentage point a year for many years to come.

Tesco are loosing big all over Ireland, their stores got rid of 24hr shopping. Their prices went thru the roof so people walked.

Used to shop in tesco and aldi, weekly shop would be 130 or so(2 adults 2 kids). Now we just shop in aldi as they improved what they stocked, shopping is at max 80 a week.

Wheety · 18-06-2017 01:54AM

Tesco have started construction in Liffey Valley now. If you go around the B&Q side towards M&S, there is a big site and the signs mention Tesco construction.

Looks like it's going to be a big development.

Stealthirl · 18-06-2017 12:00PM

Wounder if the development will be anything like the illustrations here http://www.3ddesignbureau.com/case-study/tesco-superstore-liffey-valley-phase-2/ or will it just be a big monoblock Tesco store

degsie · 14-08-2017 04:36PM

Looks like this is now coming to fruition, construction started alongside B&Q.

yannakis · 31-08-2017 05:23PM

Does anyone have the planning permission for the Tesco and/or the road changes around this area?

Snake Plisken · 31-08-2017 06:14PM

It's stupid that they cut off the road down to Marks and Spencer's car park. They need to reopen that road before the Xmas rush starts or the place will be a disaster zone!

Popple3 · 01-09-2017 07:16AM

Looks like the road connecting the retail park and M&S will be permanently cut off by Tesco assuming I've found the most up to date planning application here: http://www.sdublincoco.ie/index.aspx?pageid=144&regref=SD12A/0014

The shop itself will be on a platform with parking at ground level underneath it, like in Maynooth, so I guess they could have a through road going under.

As for the road changes, this is what I found in the planning docs:

Road Improvements Proposed as Part of the Development

Junction Improvement Works are proposed which include both capacity improvements, and the provision of improved pedestrian crossing facilities on the approach roads to the development. These are in line with the works conditioned as part of the previous grant of planning issued for this site by SDCC. As summary of the works is as follows:

St. Lomans Road – Fonthill – Bothar An Life Roundabout Junction
• Two no. traffic signal controlled pedestrian and cyclist 'toucan' crossings to be constructed (one on the southern and one on the eastern arms of the roundabout).
• New traffic signal controlled pedestrian crossing on northern arm to be constructed.

Fonthill Road / Coldcut Road Junction
• Two no. traffic signal controlled pedestrian and cyclist 'toucan' crossings to be constructed (one on the northern and one on the eastern arms of the roundabout).
• New left-turn slip lane from Fonthill road north to Coldcut road (east) complete with associated drainage and road gullies.
• Additional public lighting to be installed along the new left-turn slip lane.

Bothar An Life / Ascail An Life Roundabout Junction
• New dedicated straight on and left lanes to be
constructed/marked on site complete with associated drainage and road gullies and new raised splitter island.
• New traffic signal controlled toucan crossing to be constructed on southern arm of roundabout.
• Additional right turn lane to be provided through widening into the existing median and associated road works.

Bothar An Life / Ascail An Life Roundabout Junction
• Two no. traffic signal controlled pedestrian and cyclist 'toucan' crossings to be constructed, one on the eastern and one on the western arms of the roundabout.

N4 / Fonthill Road Off-Ramp Junction:
• Existing traffic island and associated chevrons to be removed and areas made good.
• Existing secondary traffic light in traffic island to be taken down and re-erected in verge on left hand side.
• Road marking to be revised.

Stealthirl · 02-09-2017 01:37AM

Looking at the doc's its obvious the road is just being moved around,the new section was open last wkend but was closed when i was out there on Tue

gortavoher · 02-09-2017 02:24PM

Popple3 wrote: »

Looks like the road connecting the retail park and M&S will be permanently cut off by Tesco assuming I've found the most up to date planning application here: http://www.sdublincoco.ie/index.aspx?pageid=144&regref=SD12A/0014

Care needs to be taken with these references in the planning documentation as permission was granted four years ago and many of the works referred to here were completed last year as conditions to planning permission granted for the extension to the shopping centre (Penneys store, the move of the cinema and new restaurants).

As noted by StealthIrl the plans do show the retention of the road with the addition of a new roundabout and entrances to both the shops on the one side and the petrol station on the other.

Ted Plain · 17-09-2017 10:20PM

Was in B&Q today and the road between there and M&S was thankfully open again.

Wheety · 10-10-2017 11:28PM

It looks huuuuge. Going up very quickly too. Open by Christmas?

Heroditas · 15-10-2017 08:03PM

Wheety wrote: »

It looks huuuuge. Going up very quickly too. Open by Christmas?

Next Easter apparently

ArthurG · 28-11-2017 09:44AM

Passed by last night. It looks enormous - Maynooth scale I'd imagine. I'm guessing its still a shell though, so a while before it'll be open.

Tesco at Liffey Valley

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