Vogue Williams on internment for Muslim extremists

retro:electro · 11-06-2017 11:46AM #1

http://m.independent.ie/entertainment/banter/trending/i-made-a-mistake-and-im-sorry-but-the-reaction-i-got-death-threats-doesnt-promote-debate-vogue-williams-on-internment-comments-35813213.html

Her recent comments on internment for Muslim extremists have received enormous backlash online.

One the one hand I'm thinking, well this is what happens when you give idiots a mouth piece and a platform. Who actually gives a fcuk about her opinion on anything?
And on the other I'm thinking, can nobody have an opinion anymore, even though it may differ from the masses, without receiving death threats?

The_Valeyard · 11-06-2017 11:48AM

Internment. If you are not a radical going in. You will be coming out.

Wanderer2010 · 11-06-2017 11:52AM

anna080 wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/entertainment/banter/trending/i-made-a-mistake-and-im-sorry-but-the-reaction-i-got-death-threats-doesnt-promote-debate-vogue-williams-on-internment-comments-35813213.html

Her recent comments on internment for Muslim extremists have received enormous backlash online.

One the one hand I'm thinking, well this is what happens when you give idiots a mouth piece and a platform. Who actually gives a fcuk about her opinion on anything?
And on the other I'm thinking, can nobody have an opinion anymore, even though it may differ from the masses, without receiving death threats?

I salute you, sir.

She is literally nobody. Like a fire, remove the oxygen of publicity and giving her airtime on various radio shows/tv shows etc and she will disappear.

Waste of space is all she is.

super_furry · 11-06-2017 11:54AM

Internment in the North was the best recruiting tool the IRA ever had. Not sure why Brian McFadden's ex-wife is being listened to on the situation.

brevity · 11-06-2017 11:55AM

Well, I guess she is entitled to her opinion however daft it may be. I mean we are talking about it now so obviously someone does give a ****.

I thought she came across quite well in some of the documentaries that she did however this latest stunt has an air of Kate Hopkins about it and if she starts down that route then she wont be popular for much longer.

Wombatman · 11-06-2017 11:56AM

super_furry wrote: »

Internment in the North was the best recruiting tool the IRA ever had. Not sure why Brian McFadden's ex-wife is being listened to on the situation.

Huh huh, she shur is purdy.

Wanderer2010 · 11-06-2017 11:59AM

brevity wrote: »

Well, I guess she is entitled to her opinion however daft it may be. I mean we are talking about it now so obviously someone does give a ****.

I thought she came across quite well in some of the documentaries that she did however this latest stunt has an air of Kate Hopkins about it and if she starts down that route then she wont be popular for much longer.

IF she starts? She has always been about attention seeking and whoring herself to every media outlet on the planet in order for people to nor forget her with her dreadfully misinformed opinions and statements. In that respect she is the exact same as Katie Hopkins.

judeboy101 · 11-06-2017 12:02PM

Just goes to show why you should never stick your dick in crazy

Suckit · 11-06-2017 12:14PM

She still looks like George Hamilton

Wombatman · 11-06-2017 12:18PM

Ye'll be accused of being upsetting online trolls in a new article if ye don't watch out.

Outlaw Pete · 11-06-2017 12:25PM

Where is Ja!

clairewithani · 11-06-2017 12:26PM

She apologised since. For what?
She either agrees or disagrees with internment. Her apology smacks of "please don't hate me"

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 11-06-2017 12:28PM

I think people should be free to express an idea as long as it isn't inciting violence, and have it respectfully criticised by explaining it detail why internment is such a bad idea. For the younger generation, they wouldn't have any idea of the realistic implications of internment. So it needs to be calmly explained, instead of issuing death threats. (I wonder will the twitter lynch mob start working overtime to try and expose the people making the threats? No, of course not.)

But then again, there is a notable pattern of people (especially on the left) trying to shut down any discussion that they don't like by creating an air of tension in society so that the public must always walk on eggshells instead of raising a valid (or nonsensical) opinion.

This is a disturbing pattern, and one that seems to be encouraged from people who should know better. Remember the whole 'it's ok to punch Nazis' argument that was doing the rounds a while back?

Always treat bullying and violence with zero tolerance. There are no 'special exemptions'.

Yourself isit · 11-06-2017 12:28PM

Internment does work in fact. Britain messed it up in the 70's but we still have some kind of internment - belonging to proscribed organisations.

The free state also used internment

Yakult · 11-06-2017 12:40PM

My memory of her is very vague. So... don't care.

Nermal · 11-06-2017 02:14PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Internment. If you are not a radical going in. You will be coming out.

There's an obvious solution to that, has it escaped you?

wonderfullife · 11-06-2017 02:55PM

Yourself isit wrote: »

Internment does work in fact. Britain messed it up in the 70's but we still have some kind of internment - belonging to proscribed organisations.

The free state also used internment

Saying "interment works" is stupid.

There's been instances in history where interment of people has been successful in the short term - for example the early pre-war (1934/1935) Nazi Internment Camps were pretty successful in minimizing opposition to the regime. There's also been instances where internment has been an abject failure in the short term.

Either way, just because something *sometimes* works, doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Birneybau · 11-06-2017 03:01PM

Boards.ie, last week's news today.

11-06-2017 03:02PM

Yourself isit wrote: »

Internment does work in fact. Britain messed it up in the 70's but we still have some kind of internment - belonging to proscribed organisations.

Being a member of an unlawful organisation is an offence. If you are found guilty in court, then you are sentenced.
There is no internment.

meeeeh · 11-06-2017 03:17PM

So an idiot was looking for publicity and bunch of morons duly obliged her. What else is new in the world of Facebook activism?

Victor · 11-06-2017 03:23PM

bubblypop wrote: »

Being a member of an unlawful organisation is an offence. If you are found guilty in court, then you are sentenced.
There is no internment.

I agree. Being a member of an unlawful organisation is a crime because those unlawful organisations have illegal aims. Membership is tantamount to planning other crimes.

sabat · 11-06-2017 03:31PM

Val Kilmer's transvestite son with the hands of a Mayo farmer.

Teyla Emmagan · 11-06-2017 04:22PM

The trick is not to read the Independent. You can then lead a blissful life unaware that people like Vogue Williams even exist.

Galwayguy35 · 11-06-2017 04:37PM

Ireland's version of Kim Kardashian.

Maximus Alexander · 11-06-2017 04:39PM

White tabloid lady in wanting-to-lock-up-brown-people-without-trial shocker.

Beyondgone · 11-06-2017 04:43PM

Vogue gets lambasted for her opinion..No such sensibilities amongst their own. Internment would be the soft option if this is the current reality:
(Possibly NSFW)
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/opinion/torturers-of-the-new-iraq-1.4133747

Somedude9 · 11-06-2017 04:51PM

Her name is Vogue? That's enough...Perhaps she thought internment was some kind of plastic surgery.

RDM_83 again · 11-06-2017 05:20PM

super_furry wrote: »

Internment in the North was the best recruiting tool the IRA ever had. Not sure why Brian McFadden's ex-wife is being listened to on the situation.

Yeah but if you use this argument you have to then look at why interned people were so willing to join the IRA, its because most of them already believed in the goals (unified Ireland etc) but not the IRA's methods.

So saying it won't work now against Islamic extremism is saying a lot of that population already believe in the goals even if they don't believe in the means yet.

tecknika · 11-06-2017 06:54PM

Comparing this to the north is utter madness. This is very different.

jimmynokia · 11-06-2017 06:57PM

The indo have an obsession with her sure she will be grand the next stupid thing she does will be pressed..

The Highwayman · 11-06-2017 07:02PM

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

anna080 wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/entertainment/banter/trending/i-made-a-mistake-and-im-sorry-but-the-reaction-i-got-death-threats-doesnt-promote-debate-vogue-williams-on-internment-comments-35813213.html

Her recent comments on internment for Muslim extremists have received enormous backlash online.

One the one hand I'm thinking, well this is what happens when you give idiots a mouth piece and a platform. Who actually gives a fcuk about her opinion on anything?
And on the other I'm thinking, can nobody have an opinion anymore, even though it may differ from the masses, without receiving death threats?

I salute you, sir.

She is literally nobody. Like a fire, remove the oxygen of publicity and giving her airtime on various radio shows/tv shows etc and she will disappear.

Waste of space is all she is.

What have you achieved in life?

Vogue Williams on internment for Muslim extremists

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