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London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Biggest lickspittle on boardz


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Look from 4:50 check out the big bald headed guy



    This 'average joe Muslim' is actually some sort of Islamic spokesman that is regularly planted into audiences and wheeled out as a 'random' audience member. I saw his name somewhere before, but it escapes me now. If they started fining the media for fake news, the BBC would be begging for spare change outside bus stations.

    It was actually Katie Hopkins who picked up on this. Good catch:

    DBgxyaiXsAQaZ7D.jpg:orig

    https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/871501279960469504


  • Posts: 31,896 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Expose? We know the backers. Most world leaders are friends with them (I think we would be if we could as well). Our intellegence services are good enough to know who is funding what for the most part at this stage.
    As in provide uncomfortable publicity to their actions, yes they're already well known, but many political & business leaders prefer to bury the news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    This 'average joe Muslim' is actually some sort of Islamic spokesman that is regularly planted into audiences and wheeled out as a 'random' audience member. I saw his name somewhere before, but it escapes me now. If they started fining the media for fake news, the BBC would be begging for spare change outside bus stations.

    It was actually Katie Hopkins who picked up on this. Good catch:

    DBgxyaiXsAQaZ7D.jpg:orig

    https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/871501279960469504

    Paid to act offended when anyone says anything about Islam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Was it wrong to say "it would be wrong to blame the killing on either Islam or British foreign policy." and after a terror attack "I have no doubt that Londoners can go about their lives in the normal way today."

    Probably would yeah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    The Mosque in Birmingham has an agreement with West Midlands police force that officers are not to go there & under no circumstances should they enter the Mosque. Only 2 officers approved by the Imam can enter


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Heres a kid who was a hostage of ISIS sounds like he wants to go back. Wonder if the 400odd fighters that have returned to Britain & any who have returned to Ireland will slip back into western society??



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Beyondgone wrote: »
    Can someone elaborate on this? If someone is classified as "missing" or "unaccounted for" does that mean they are not classified as "dead or injured"? :confused:

    Or in other words, is the actual casualty list higher and this is just a way the figures get slightly "massaged"? Or am I totally wrong in my take on that? It just seems odd.

    Some people jumped in the river. One was pulled out this morning.


  • Posts: 31,896 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Heres a kid who was a hostage of ISIS sounds like he wants to go back. Wonder if the 400odd fighters that have returned to Britain & any who have returned to Ireland will slip back into western society??

    Stockholm syndrome, that's why they like to take women & children, the men are usually killed quite quickly if they show any signs of not complying or agreeing with their beliefs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    the reaction to Vogue Williams just shows exactly what the problem is, she is being labelled "far right", "nazi" "fascist" "racist" and multiple other buzzwords that the left lunatics just love to throw around at anybody who dares to speak out.

    while she is silly for bringing in the IRA and using the word internment (as it seems to set off the lefties these days) her overall point is one that surely nobody would disagree with - if you are even remotely linked to terrorism, then you need to be brought up in front of a court and convicted and jailed for your crime.

    as to how anybody can defend terrorism in the face of "civil liberties" is beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭ads20101


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    The Mosque in Birmingham has an agreement with West Midlands police force that officers are not to go there & under no circumstances should they enter the Mosque. Only 2 officers approved by the Imam can enter

    From someone who has previously lived in the West Midlands, I seriously doubt this.

    However, I could be convinced by a link.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    ads20101 wrote: »
    From someone who has previously lived in the West Midlands, I seriously doubt this.

    However, I could be convinced by a link.

    Someone posted it on twitter earlier, Ill see if I can find it. I see the police are denying it now anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Someone posted it on twitter earlier...

    That's good enough for me...
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Help!!!! wrote:
    Someone posted it on twitter earlier, Ill see if I can find it. I see the police are denying it now anyway


    Katie Hopkins posted it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Katie Hopkins posted it...

    Well quite frankly I have no idea how anyone could deny it now.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A nice little bit of multiculturism this morning among the ladies.

    A nursery worker was beaten up and stabbed by three girls as she walked to work in east London this morning.
    The woman, aged in her 30s, was walking from Wanstead station to Little Diamonds nursery on Hermon Hill when the attackers came up behind her at just after 9.30am on Wednesday.
    They shoved her to the ground before punching and kicking her during the terrifying attack.

    Karrien Stevens, who runs Little Diamonds nursery on Hermon Hill where the victim works, told the Standard the three attackers were ''chanting the Koran''.
    She said: ''A staff member was coming to work when three Asian girls came up behind her chanting the Koran.
    ''They pulled her to the ground, kicking and punching her.'' One of them got the knife out and cut her arm.
    ''They were shouting about Allah, that and the Koran.''


    Source: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nursery-worker-beaten-and-stabbed-by-three-women-shouting-about-allah/ar-BBCeXh2?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartanntp


  • Posts: 31,896 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Someone's been keeping a scorecard of terrorist activities over recent months, I think it's missing a few though.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Anyone see the video on Twitter of CNN setting up a fake "peacfull march" with Muslim acctors in Manchester ? Crazy how they can get away with that. Fake news is real.

    Also the same "random" Muslim stopped on the street for a BBC interview after different attacks in different cities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    Anyone see the video on Twitter of CNN setting up a fake "peacfull march" with Muslim acctors in Manchester ? Crazy how they can get away with that. Fake news is real.

    Also the same "random" Muslim stopped on the street for a BBC interview after different attacks in different cities.

    The irony of you saying it was fake news, the claim has been debunked.

    http://www.snopes.com/cnn-muslim-protests-london/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    The irony of you saying it was fake news, the claim has been debunked.


    Debunked? CNN saying it's not true isn't debunking anything. They'd hardly say "Oh ya, we did stage a fake protest or march"?

    Any comment on the same guy "random" appearing in multiple BBC interviews in different cities after different attacks??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    But the incident was staged with Muslim peace protest.
    Those people may have went there to do genuine protest, but from the video released they were clearly instructed on what to do and where to stand.

    It's a terrible thing for freedom of speech when journalists have to make up the story.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    Debunked? CNN saying it's not true isn't debunking anything. They'd hardly say "Oh ya, we did stage a fake protest or march"?

    Any comment on the same guy "random" appearing in multiple BBC interviews in different cities after different attacks??


    Are we talking about the CNN issue as you raised or another one now? Its funny people claim something is fake news when they are shown its not as they claim they then say a but what about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    Nabber wrote: »
    But the incident was staged with Muslim peace protest.
    Those people may have went there to do genuine protest, but from the video released they were clearly instructed on what to do and where to stand.

    It's a terrible thing for freedom of speech when journalists have to make up the story.

    So there is a problem with a group of people staging a protest now. The claim was CNN staged the protest which they did not. Their camerman as like others may have asked people to move.

    How does the claim even if true impact on freedom of speech, freedom of speech allows me or anyone else to stage something if I want.

    "Nothing in any of the rumors provided definitive (or even shaky) evidence that the protests were staged (by CNN or any other party) for the purposes of favorable media coverage. Mediaite’s coverage of the claims highlighted the public’s unfamiliarity with the process of reporting live news:"

    But if your worldview does not let you look at another view thats a bit snowflake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Are we talking about the CNN issue as you raised or another one now? Its funny people claim something is fake news when they are shown its not as they claim they then say a but what about.

    The OP had 2 examples not just the Muslims march but also about the " random " Muslim guy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    So there is a problem with a group of people staging a protest now. The claim was CNN staged the protest which they did not. Their camerman as like others may have asked people to move.

    How does the claim even if true impact on freedom of speech, freedom of speech allows me or anyone else to stage something if I want.

    "Nothing in any of the rumors provided definitive (or even shaky) evidence that the protests were staged (by CNN or any other party) for the purposes of favorable media coverage. Mediaite’s coverage of the claims highlighted the public’s unfamiliarity with the process of reporting live news:"

    But if your worldview does not let you look at another view thats a bit snowflake.

    OK it wasn't just CNN but all the networks that were there were staging it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Omackeral wrote: »
    A nice little bit of multiculturism this morning among the ladies.

    A nursery worker was beaten up and stabbed by three girls as she walked to work in east London this morning.
    The woman, aged in her 30s, was walking from Wanstead station to Little Diamonds nursery on Hermon Hill when the attackers came up behind her at just after 9.30am on Wednesday.
    They shoved her to the ground before punching and kicking her during the terrifying attack.

    Karrien Stevens, who runs Little Diamonds nursery on Hermon Hill where the victim works, told the Standard the three attackers were ''chanting the Koran''.
    She said: ''A staff member was coming to work when three Asian girls came up behind her chanting the Koran.
    ''They pulled her to the ground, kicking and punching her.'' One of them got the knife out and cut her arm.
    ''They were shouting about Allah, that and the Koran.''


    Source: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nursery-worker-beaten-and-stabbed-by-three-women-shouting-about-allah/ar-BBCeXh2?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartanntp

    But its not a terrorist act....apparently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    The OP had 2 examples not just the Muslims march but also about the " random " Muslim guy


    you mean this

    https://twitter.com/kthopkins/status/868924156573876224

    Without seeing the videos difficult to comment, it may indeed show something of interest but without seeing how the person was introduced in each video difficult to make a call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    OK it wasn't just CNN but all the networks that were there were staging it

    If you mean giving directions to get the best shot that happens all the time. If you saying they arranged people with no interest to pretend to protest, does not seem to be any evidence of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    you mean this

    https://twitter.com/kthopkins/status/868924156573876224

    Without seeing the videos difficult to comment, it may indeed show something of interest but without seeing how the person was introduced in each video difficult to make a call.

    Here ya go

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffRiUQPgDYo


  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Help!!!! wrote: »

    I watched that, I dont see a problem? the same man appeared on different TV items. So?
    It didnt give his name, or any details about him, no where did I see it suggested that he was pretending to be different people, so whats the problem?

    the same people appear on TV all the time


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    Help!!!! wrote: »


    Its funny how they cut out the bits where he introduces himself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBoHJvrXoCM

    at 28:46 seems to be a person involved in at a guess some outreach as he introduces the Reverend next to him.

    Cant see any evidence that he claimed to be anything other than he is. It is often the case that people involved in politics do get invites to TV shows as the producers know they will speak.

    Years ago as a student in a third level college involved in debating the societies office used to get telephone calls from RTE to see if people would go to the Late Late Show. This was in the 1990's when it was impossible to get tickets for that show, I appeared in the audience 4 times in a 2 year period. I met Boyzone and the KLF in the greenroom after one show. Was that a set up no as they did not know or tell anyone of us what to say, but they knew as debaters we would say something.


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