Any conspiracy in all these terrorist attacks?

NIMAN · 06-06-2017 08:50PM #1

Now before I start, I have to say that I wouldn't be a great believer in most conspiracy theories.

But over the last couple of years, seeing all these attacks in France, Belgium and the UK, it is shocking that in most of the cases "the attackers were known to police".

It would be incredibly hard to stop unknowns carrying out acts, but so many of these nuts seem to have been on a radar. I also appreciate how hard it is to keep track of potential terrorists.

Some might say they are being allowed to carry out a certain number of attacks so that the Gov can introduce harsh laws, states of emergency etc, or to get the general public to see more military spending and invasions as necessary? All done with a relatively small number of the public killed?

In the latest attack, one of the guys even appeared in a TV documentary basically saying "look at me, I'm a mad Jihadi". Yet he was able to go out and crash a van into people then stab others to death!

AzcuzCoz · 06-06-2017 08:50PM

Yes. To terrorise people.

conditioned games · 06-06-2017 11:59PM

Yes they are false flag events been instigated by the global elites that exist at the very top. They want total control over the worlds population. By scaring the general population and turning people against each other, people will look to central government for protection. Meaning more surveillance, loss of personal freedoms and greater powers for our Luciferian masters.

rtron · 07-06-2017 12:28AM

Potential here for an excuse for hard boarders to be setup between Ireland and UK in the wake of brexit.

07-06-2017 12:37AM

I've seen a couple of the usual crowd suggesting the usual nonsense that no one died and that it was all faked with crisis actors etc.

But again, there's nothing new there.

Some might say they are being allowed to carry out a certain number of attacks so that the Gov can introduce harsh laws, states of emergency etc, or to get the general public to see more military spending and invasions as necessary? All done with a relatively small number of the public killed?

Conspiracy theorists have claimed this for literally every major tragedy since 9/11, yet it hasn't come to pass. I'm not sure why now would be much different.

conditioned games · 07-06-2017 06:54AM

9/11 was used as the pretext for America to go to war. They invaded Iraq to protect the US petrodollar. No coincidence we are having all these false flag terror attacks while the world fiat currency system is coming to the end of its life. Keep an eye on the cryptocurrency market, it is currently signalling what is to come.

Dohnjoe · 07-06-2017 11:48AM

NIMAN wrote: »

But over the last couple of years, seeing all these attacks in France, Belgium and the UK, it is shocking that in most of the cases "the attackers were known to police".

Hundreds/thousands of potentials are known to police. The keyword is "potential", because most (of those involved) hadn't committed any serious crimes and therefore can't be jailed indefinitely

There aren't enough (and will never be enough) police to watch all of these people 24/7

Most of them are nationals so can't be expelled from the country

Security/police forces do intercept and foil attacks fairly often - but the public obviously doesn't notice attacks that don't take place

It's a pretty big challenge.

Re the "false flag" conspiracies, they look more ridiculous with each passing miraculous and flawlessly executed inside job by different administrations, not to mention the hundreds of terrorist attacks around the world that conspiracy theorists conveniently ignore.

ScumLord · 07-06-2017 03:51PM

ISIS are playing into the hands of the American military industry, every time they attack a western power the Americans can make more weapons and move them into more countries.

They are also encouraging extreme politics on our side with the likes of trump being elected to basically kick all his friends and competitors out of their positions of power, of course that never happened.

So it could be argued that ISIS are being encouraged by people on the far right in the US to maintain their shaky hold on power.

ISIS are fighting an unwinnable war and I think that suits a lot of war mongers down to the ground. It does create a divide between the average Muslim and the average westerner. They keep their own people completely ignorant and disconnected from everything so they have control over every resource.

I'd say locally in the middle east ISIS are basically operating like a mob and everything that happens here is a propaganda tool to maintain their control in those areas. They have no purpose outside of making their own top brass wealthy.

GerryDerpy · 11-06-2017 12:01PM

conditioned games wrote: »

Yes they are false flag events been instigated by the global elites that exist at the very top. They want total control over the worlds population. By scaring the general population and turning people against each other, people will look to central government for protection. Meaning more surveillance, loss of personal freedoms and greater powers for our Luciferian masters.

This reads as sarcasm.

PeterTheNinth · 11-06-2017 12:25PM

There are certainly a lot of unusual things that happened with the 7/7 bombings. Nothing 100% conclusive, but just odd stuff... No CCTV, the train that the bombers were meant to have been on was found to have been cancelled (after the report said that they were on it), reports of people having been shot down at Canary Wharf, explosions seeming to come from under the trains, Peter Power's training drill (which seemed to map exactly the real incident), and that off photo purporting to be the hijackers but which looks photoshopped badly.... I've been meaning to read Nick Kollerstrom's book Terror On The Tube, but haven't gotten round to it.

There is not enough information available to discuss the recent attacks, but I'm sure similar documentaries to 7/7 Ripple Effect will emerge in the near future.

Dohnjoe · 11-06-2017 02:04PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

There are certainly a lot of unusual things that happened with the 7/7 bombings.

We know what happened to a high degree of accuracy.

The problem is that virtually every time there is a prominent largescale attack or shooting, within minutes a dedicated group of people from the internet are searching for inconsistencies to discredit any sort of established version of events

911, 7/7 bombings, Boston marathon bombing, Sandy hook shooting, Aurora shooting, Charlie Hebdo.. you name it

Live news making mistakes, odd witness or relative behavior, people who look like other people, any kind of oddities, coincidences, etc, etc, they'll go to any lengths, including using clearly debunked info, doctored photos, missing context... scoop it all up, slap it into youtube videos with the sole aim to create doubt surrounding the event

Followed this stuff for years, same pattern every time

super_furry · 11-06-2017 02:08PM

conditioned games wrote: »

Yes they are false flag events been instigated by the global elites that exist at the very top. .

What do you base this on?

conditioned games · 13-06-2017 10:40PM

super_furry wrote: »

What do you base this on?

Lack of video evidence in Manchester and London, simulated staging of terror attack with police before they happen, attackers so happen to be known to police and with their ID on them, prevention of real firefighters and ambulances to the scene, Crisis Solutions who stage the terror attacks in advance have the 666 symbol in their logo meaning their Luciferian, in photos showing dummies as dead they take off the shoes which is a symbol to other Luciferians around the world they are in control and also the tendency to use 11th and 22nd of month to stage the false flag attacks.

ScumLord · 14-06-2017 02:26PM

conditioned games wrote: »

Lack of video evidence in Manchester and London, simulated staging of terror attack with police before they happen, attackers so happen to be known to police and with their ID on them, prevention of real firefighters and ambulances to the scene, Crisis Solutions who stage the terror attacks in advance have the 666 symbol in their logo meaning their Luciferian, in photos showing dummies as dead they take off the shoes which is a symbol to other Luciferians around the world they are in control and also the tendency to use 11th and 22nd of month to stage the false flag attacks.

So the devil is behind it all. Lol.

14-06-2017 02:37PM

conditioned games wrote: »

Lack of video evidence in Manchester and London, simulated staging of terror attack with police before they happen, attackers so happen to be known to police and with their ID on them, prevention of real firefighters and ambulances to the scene, Crisis Solutions who stage the terror attacks in advance have the 666 symbol in their logo meaning their Luciferian, in photos showing dummies as dead they take off the shoes which is a symbol to other Luciferians around the world they are in control and also the tendency to use 11th and 22nd of month to stage the false flag attacks.

So why do you believe they have to fake bodies etc. Why not just plant bombs?

Ipso · 14-06-2017 05:54PM

ScumLord wrote: »

So the devil is behind it all. Lol.

He has a huuuuge collection of false flags.

conditioned games · 14-06-2017 07:00PM

King Mob wrote: »

So why do you believe they have to fake bodies etc. Why not just plant bombs?

It's about getting the pictures across the controlled mainstream media highlighting the threat of Islamic extremism. It allows them to have control over the pictures people can see. This turns people in favor of government control and censorship of non mainstream media outlets thus reinforcing their brainwashing through the mainstream media. The below video shows the actors changing out of uniform playing both the emergency crew and victims at the false flag attack in London.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcW-iHiBvyc

conditioned games · 14-06-2017 07:02PM

ScumLord wrote: »

So the devil is behind it all. Lol.

Those who worship the devil.

kippy · 14-06-2017 07:20PM

conditioned games wrote: »

Yes they are false flag events been instigated by the global elites that exist at the very top. They want total control over the worlds population. By scaring the general population and turning people against each other, people will look to central government for protection. Meaning more surveillance, loss of personal freedoms and greater powers for our Luciferian masters.

What personal freedoms have been lost over the years? Say I was comparing personal freedoms of the populace of 1917 with those of today.

The reason these attacks are carried out by folks known to police is surely down to the INCREASE in personal freedoms (if that's what you want to call it) over the years......

conditioned games · 14-06-2017 10:22PM

kippy wrote: »

What personal freedoms have been lost over the years? Say I was comparing personal freedoms of the populace of 1917 with those of today.

The reason these attacks are carried out by folks known to police is surely down to the INCREASE in personal freedoms (if that's what you want to call it) over the years......

Surveillance by the NSA on anybody in the world that has a profile on the web, the ability to listen in to phone conversations, view surrounding environment from a laptop, forcing people to a cashless society been over reliant on the banks for personal spending, out cry over news outlets that don't report what the controlled mainstream media say and calling them fake news, which google and youtube are proposing to restrict, moves towards driverless vehicles that can be controlled remotely if needs be to eliminate those asking questions about the new world order. Too much power is being given over to those that control this world through banking, media and our everyday lives.

kippy · 14-06-2017 10:35PM

conditioned games wrote: »

Surveillance by the NSA on anybody in the world that has a profile on the web, the ability to listen in to phone conversations, view surrounding environment from a laptop, forcing people to a cashless society been over reliant on the banks for personal spending, out cry over news outlets that don't report what the controlled mainstream media say and calling them fake news, which google and youtube are proposing to restrict, moves towards driverless vehicles that can be controlled remotely if needs be to eliminate those asking questions about the new world order. Too much power is being given over to those that control this world through banking, media and our everyday lives.

Look at my first question again.

15-06-2017 12:40AM

conditioned games wrote: »

It's about getting the pictures across the controlled mainstream media highlighting the threat of Islamic extremism. It allows them to have control over the pictures people can see. This turns people in favor of government control and censorship of non mainstream media outlets thus reinforcing their brainwashing through the mainstream media. The below video shows the actors changing out of uniform playing both the emergency crew and victims at the false flag attack in London.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcW-iHiBvyc

But that still doesn't make sense. On two levels.

First, why wouldn't they be able to control the pictures if they just planted explosives?
There would be thousands of pictures and they would be able to pick and choose the ones they want. They could even hire some photographers to look for specific shots, though most professional photographers would be shooting that stuff anyway.

And secondly, you don't believe that they do control the photos.
The only reason you buy into this conspiracy theory is based on stuff like the above link: Photos that prove the thing was faked.
But if They are doing the faking to control the photos, it doesn't make sense that photos like the ones you point to exist. They either should have been suppressed or never been allowed to be taken in the first place.
Unless they can't control the photos, which would make the whole crisis actors/fake bomb stuff pointless. It would be far easier to just place bombs and then there'd be nothing for armchair detectives like yourself to use against them.

So looking at the link you posted:
Why do these crisis fakers need to pull double shifts? Are they being cheap? Or just looking for overtime?
Why would they change in full view of thousands of cameras?

This crisis agency doesn't seem like they're very good at their job...

conditioned games · 15-06-2017 08:22PM

King Mob wrote: »

But that still doesn't make sense. On two levels.

First, why wouldn't they be able to control the pictures if they just planted explosives?
There would be thousands of pictures and they would be able to pick and choose the ones they want. They could even hire some photographers to look for specific shots, though most professional photographers would be shooting that stuff anyway.

And secondly, you don't believe that they do control the photos.
The only reason you buy into this conspiracy theory is based on stuff like the above link: Photos that prove the thing was faked.
But if They are doing the faking to control the photos, it doesn't make sense that photos like the ones you point to exist. They either should have been suppressed or never been allowed to be taken in the first place.
Unless they can't control the photos, which would make the whole crisis actors/fake bomb stuff pointless. It would be far easier to just place bombs and then there'd be nothing for armchair detectives like yourself to use against them.

So looking at the link you posted:
Why do these crisis fakers need to pull double shifts? Are they being cheap? Or just looking for overtime?
Why would they change in full view of thousands of cameras?

This crisis agency doesn't seem like they're very good at their job...

We live in a world of controlled manipulation through the mainstream media. Having an actor play a dead victim is easier to capture through the lens than finding people in the immediate aftermath of a bomb. Why leave it to chance to get the right photo broadcast to the world.

The actors changed behind the ambulances. From the video it looks like it is from a camera phone from a distance. It looks like they thought no one was looking while they changed.

From the footage it looks like Crisis Solutions are been cheap. Firstly the actors were police, then they changed clothes, some into ambulance crew and some to pose as victims.

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2017 08:59PM

conditioned games wrote: »

The actors changed behind the ambulances. From the video it looks like it is from a camera phone from a distance. It looks like they thought no one was looking while they changed.

From the footage it looks like Crisis Solutions are been cheap. Firstly the actors were police, then they changed clothes, some into ambulance crew and some to pose as victims.

It's police changing into tactical gear. This was on Sky News and happened after the attack.

conditioned games · 15-06-2017 09:15PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It's police changing into tactical gear. This was on Sky News and happened after the attack.

Did you see the guy changing from police clothes to camouflage pants, then the same guy was posing as a victim lying on the road. Doesn't look right at all.

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2017 09:38PM

conditioned games wrote: »

Did you see the guy changing from police clothes to camouflage pants, then the same guy was posing as a victim lying on the road. Doesn't look right at all.

These police are changing over an hour after the attack

Overheal · 15-06-2017 09:47PM

also if he's supposed to be a victim in that still image, where is the blood? Or the raw footage for that matter. Just looks like some deep dive cherrypicking by a basement youtube star.

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2017 09:54PM

Overheal wrote: »

also if he's supposed to be a victim in that still image, where is the blood? Or the raw footage for that matter. Just looks like some deep dive cherrypicking by a basement youtube star.

If one policeman getting changed after the attack into camo pants (similar to the slain terrorist one hour earlier) is enough to convince someone the whole thing is an inside job.. then in my experience all the reason, logic and evidence in the world isn't going to convince them otherwise

conditioned games · 15-06-2017 10:08PM

Overheal wrote: »

also if he's supposed to be a victim in that still image, where is the blood? Or the raw footage for that matter. Just looks like some deep dive cherrypicking by a basement youtube star.

There is no blood, well spotted, maybe you see through the charade also. In fact alot of the photos they take lack blood, such as the dummy of a woman they placed under a bus per below

https://nodisinfo.com/london-terrorist-attack-fake-hoax/

conditioned games · 15-06-2017 10:11PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

If one policeman getting changed after the attack into camo pants (similar to the slain terrorist one hour earlier) is enough to convince someone the whole thing is an inside job.. then in my experience all the reason, logic and evidence in the world isn't going to convince them otherwise

I've also mentioned other points already that says these attacks look like false flags.

Overheal · 15-06-2017 10:31PM

conditioned games wrote: »

There is no blood, well spotted, maybe you see through the charade also. In fact alot of the photos they take lack blood, such as the dummy of a woman they placed under a bus per below

https://nodisinfo.com/london-terrorist-attack-fake-hoax/

And yet, most of those photos contain copious amounts of "fake" blood. As for the lady under the bus, we aren't tomatoes: you can roll over someone's midsection and blood won't just start spraying everywhere. In fact, there are a lot of attempts at diagnoses from low rez images that in most cases don't even show a full side of a person. "Fake blood being applied! No wounds!" when the person in question is all but obscured by the person helping them; they could have a 12" hole that goes through their left lung and you'd be none the wiser from the photo.

Any conspiracy in all these terrorist attacks?

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