Any conspiracy in all these terrorist attacks?

NIMAN

Now before I start, I have to say that I wouldn't be a great believer in most conspiracy theories.

But over the last couple of years, seeing all these attacks in France, Belgium and the UK, it is shocking that in most of the cases "the attackers were known to police".

It would be incredibly hard to stop unknowns carrying out acts, but so many of these nuts seem to have been on a radar. I also appreciate how hard it is to keep track of potential terrorists.

Some might say they are being allowed to carry out a certain number of attacks so that the Gov can introduce harsh laws, states of emergency etc, or to get the general public to see more military spending and invasions as necessary? All done with a relatively small number of the public killed?

In the latest attack, one of the guys even appeared in a TV documentary basically saying "look at me, I'm a mad Jihadi". Yet he was able to go out and crash a van into people then stab others to death!

AzcuzCoz

Yes. To terrorise people.

conditioned games

Yes they are false flag events been instigated by the global elites that exist at the very top. They want total control over the worlds population. By scaring the general population and turning people against each other, people will look to central government for protection. Meaning more surveillance, loss of personal freedoms and greater powers for our Luciferian masters.

rtron

Potential here for an excuse for hard boarders to be setup between Ireland and UK in the wake of brexit.

I've seen a couple of the usual crowd suggesting the usual nonsense that no one died and that it was all faked with crisis actors etc.

But again, there's nothing new there.

Some might say they are being allowed to carry out a certain number of attacks so that the Gov can introduce harsh laws, states of emergency etc, or to get the general public to see more military spending and invasions as necessary? All done with a relatively small number of the public killed?

Conspiracy theorists have claimed this for literally every major tragedy since 9/11, yet it hasn't come to pass. I'm not sure why now would be much different.

conditioned games

9/11 was used as the pretext for America to go to war. They invaded Iraq to protect the US petrodollar. No coincidence we are having all these false flag terror attacks while the world fiat currency system is coming to the end of its life. Keep an eye on the cryptocurrency market, it is currently signalling what is to come.

Dohnjoe

NIMAN wrote: »

But over the last couple of years, seeing all these attacks in France, Belgium and the UK, it is shocking that in most of the cases "the attackers were known to police".

Hundreds/thousands of potentials are known to police. The keyword is "potential", because most (of those involved) hadn't committed any serious crimes and therefore can't be jailed indefinitely

There aren't enough (and will never be enough) police to watch all of these people 24/7

Most of them are nationals so can't be expelled from the country

Security/police forces do intercept and foil attacks fairly often - but the public obviously doesn't notice attacks that don't take place

It's a pretty big challenge.

Re the "false flag" conspiracies, they look more ridiculous with each passing miraculous and flawlessly executed inside job by different administrations, not to mention the hundreds of terrorist attacks around the world that conspiracy theorists conveniently ignore.

ScumLord

ISIS are playing into the hands of the American military industry, every time they attack a western power the Americans can make more weapons and move them into more countries.

They are also encouraging extreme politics on our side with the likes of trump being elected to basically kick all his friends and competitors out of their positions of power, of course that never happened.

So it could be argued that ISIS are being encouraged by people on the far right in the US to maintain their shaky hold on power.

ISIS are fighting an unwinnable war and I think that suits a lot of war mongers down to the ground. It does create a divide between the average Muslim and the average westerner. They keep their own people completely ignorant and disconnected from everything so they have control over every resource.

I'd say locally in the middle east ISIS are basically operating like a mob and everything that happens here is a propaganda tool to maintain their control in those areas. They have no purpose outside of making their own top brass wealthy.

GerryDerpy

conditioned games wrote: »

Yes they are false flag events been instigated by the global elites that exist at the very top. They want total control over the worlds population. By scaring the general population and turning people against each other, people will look to central government for protection. Meaning more surveillance, loss of personal freedoms and greater powers for our Luciferian masters.

This reads as sarcasm.

PeterTheNinth

There are certainly a lot of unusual things that happened with the 7/7 bombings. Nothing 100% conclusive, but just odd stuff... No CCTV, the train that the bombers were meant to have been on was found to have been cancelled (after the report said that they were on it), reports of people having been shot down at Canary Wharf, explosions seeming to come from under the trains, Peter Power's training drill (which seemed to map exactly the real incident), and that off photo purporting to be the hijackers but which looks photoshopped badly.... I've been meaning to read Nick Kollerstrom's book Terror On The Tube, but haven't gotten round to it.

There is not enough information available to discuss the recent attacks, but I'm sure similar documentaries to 7/7 Ripple Effect will emerge in the near future.

Dohnjoe

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

There are certainly a lot of unusual things that happened with the 7/7 bombings.

We know what happened to a high degree of accuracy.


The problem is that virtually every time there is a prominent largescale attack or shooting, within minutes a dedicated group of people from the internet are searching for inconsistencies to discredit any sort of established version of events

911, 7/7 bombings, Boston marathon bombing, Sandy hook shooting, Aurora shooting, Charlie Hebdo.. you name it

Live news making mistakes, odd witness or relative behavior, people who look like other people, any kind of oddities, coincidences, etc, etc, they'll go to any lengths, including using clearly debunked info, doctored photos, missing context... scoop it all up, slap it into youtube videos with the sole aim to create doubt surrounding the event

Followed this stuff for years, same pattern every time

super_furry

conditioned games wrote: »

Yes they are false flag events been instigated by the global elites that exist at the very top. .

What do you base this on?

conditioned games

super_furry wrote: »

What do you base this on?

Lack of video evidence in Manchester and London, simulated staging of terror attack with police before they happen, attackers so happen to be known to police and with their ID on them, prevention of real firefighters and ambulances to the scene, Crisis Solutions who stage the terror attacks in advance have the 666 symbol in their logo meaning their Luciferian, in photos showing dummies as dead they take off the shoes which is a symbol to other Luciferians around the world they are in control and also the tendency to use 11th and 22nd of month to stage the false flag attacks.

ScumLord

conditioned games wrote: »

Lack of video evidence in Manchester and London, simulated staging of terror attack with police before they happen, attackers so happen to be known to police and with their ID on them, prevention of real firefighters and ambulances to the scene, Crisis Solutions who stage the terror attacks in advance have the 666 symbol in their logo meaning their Luciferian, in photos showing dummies as dead they take off the shoes which is a symbol to other Luciferians around the world they are in control and also the tendency to use 11th and 22nd of month to stage the false flag attacks.

So the devil is behind it all. Lol.

conditioned games

conditioned games wrote: »

Lack of video evidence in Manchester and London, simulated staging of terror attack with police before they happen, attackers so happen to be known to police and with their ID on them, prevention of real firefighters and ambulances to the scene, Crisis Solutions who stage the terror attacks in advance have the 666 symbol in their logo meaning their Luciferian, in photos showing dummies as dead they take off the shoes which is a symbol to other Luciferians around the world they are in control and also the tendency to use 11th and 22nd of month to stage the false flag attacks.

So why do you believe they have to fake bodies etc. Why not just plant bombs?

Ipso

ScumLord wrote: »

So the devil is behind it all. Lol.

He has a huuuuge collection of false flags.

conditioned games

King Mob wrote: »

So why do you believe they have to fake bodies etc. Why not just plant bombs?

It's about getting the pictures across the controlled mainstream media highlighting the threat of Islamic extremism. It allows them to have control over the pictures people can see. This turns people in favor of government control and censorship of non mainstream media outlets thus reinforcing their brainwashing through the mainstream media. The below video shows the actors changing out of uniform playing both the emergency crew and victims at the false flag attack in London.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcW-iHiBvyc

conditioned games

ScumLord wrote: »

So the devil is behind it all. Lol.

Those who worship the devil.

kippy

conditioned games wrote: »

Yes they are false flag events been instigated by the global elites that exist at the very top. They want total control over the worlds population. By scaring the general population and turning people against each other, people will look to central government for protection. Meaning more surveillance, loss of personal freedoms and greater powers for our Luciferian masters.

What personal freedoms have been lost over the years? Say I was comparing personal freedoms of the populace of 1917 with those of today.

The reason these attacks are carried out by folks known to police is surely down to the INCREASE in personal freedoms (if that's what you want to call it) over the years......

conditioned games

kippy wrote: »

What personal freedoms have been lost over the years? Say I was comparing personal freedoms of the populace of 1917 with those of today.

The reason these attacks are carried out by folks known to police is surely down to the INCREASE in personal freedoms (if that's what you want to call it) over the years......

Surveillance by the NSA on anybody in the world that has a profile on the web, the ability to listen in to phone conversations, view surrounding environment from a laptop, forcing people to a cashless society been over reliant on the banks for personal spending, out cry over news outlets that don't report what the controlled mainstream media say and calling them fake news, which google and youtube are proposing to restrict, moves towards driverless vehicles that can be controlled remotely if needs be to eliminate those asking questions about the new world order. Too much power is being given over to those that control this world through banking, media and our everyday lives.

kippy

conditioned games wrote: »

Surveillance by the NSA on anybody in the world that has a profile on the web, the ability to listen in to phone conversations, view surrounding environment from a laptop, forcing people to a cashless society been over reliant on the banks for personal spending, out cry over news outlets that don't report what the controlled mainstream media say and calling them fake news, which google and youtube are proposing to restrict, moves towards driverless vehicles that can be controlled remotely if needs be to eliminate those asking questions about the new world order. Too much power is being given over to those that control this world through banking, media and our everyday lives.

Look at my first question again.

conditioned games

conditioned games wrote: »

It's about getting the pictures across the controlled mainstream media highlighting the threat of Islamic extremism. It allows them to have control over the pictures people can see. This turns people in favor of government control and censorship of non mainstream media outlets thus reinforcing their brainwashing through the mainstream media. The below video shows the actors changing out of uniform playing both the emergency crew and victims at the false flag attack in London.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcW-iHiBvyc

But that still doesn't make sense. On two levels.

First, why wouldn't they be able to control the pictures if they just planted explosives?
There would be thousands of pictures and they would be able to pick and choose the ones they want. They could even hire some photographers to look for specific shots, though most professional photographers would be shooting that stuff anyway.

And secondly, you don't believe that they do control the photos.
The only reason you buy into this conspiracy theory is based on stuff like the above link: Photos that prove the thing was faked.
But if They are doing the faking to control the photos, it doesn't make sense that photos like the ones you point to exist. They either should have been suppressed or never been allowed to be taken in the first place.
Unless they can't control the photos, which would make the whole crisis actors/fake bomb stuff pointless. It would be far easier to just place bombs and then there'd be nothing for armchair detectives like yourself to use against them.

So looking at the link you posted:
Why do these crisis fakers need to pull double shifts? Are they being cheap? Or just looking for overtime?
Why would they change in full view of thousands of cameras?

This crisis agency doesn't seem like they're very good at their job...

conditioned games

King Mob wrote: »

But that still doesn't make sense. On two levels.

First, why wouldn't they be able to control the pictures if they just planted explosives?
There would be thousands of pictures and they would be able to pick and choose the ones they want. They could even hire some photographers to look for specific shots, though most professional photographers would be shooting that stuff anyway.

And secondly, you don't believe that they do control the photos.
The only reason you buy into this conspiracy theory is based on stuff like the above link: Photos that prove the thing was faked.
But if They are doing the faking to control the photos, it doesn't make sense that photos like the ones you point to exist. They either should have been suppressed or never been allowed to be taken in the first place.
Unless they can't control the photos, which would make the whole crisis actors/fake bomb stuff pointless. It would be far easier to just place bombs and then there'd be nothing for armchair detectives like yourself to use against them.

So looking at the link you posted:
Why do these crisis fakers need to pull double shifts? Are they being cheap? Or just looking for overtime?
Why would they change in full view of thousands of cameras?

This crisis agency doesn't seem like they're very good at their job...

We live in a world of controlled manipulation through the mainstream media. Having an actor play a dead victim is easier to capture through the lens than finding people in the immediate aftermath of a bomb. Why leave it to chance to get the right photo broadcast to the world.

The actors changed behind the ambulances. From the video it looks like it is from a camera phone from a distance. It looks like they thought no one was looking while they changed.

From the footage it looks like Crisis Solutions are been cheap. Firstly the actors were police, then they changed clothes, some into ambulance crew and some to pose as victims.

Dohnjoe

conditioned games wrote: »

The actors changed behind the ambulances. From the video it looks like it is from a camera phone from a distance. It looks like they thought no one was looking while they changed.

From the footage it looks like Crisis Solutions are been cheap. Firstly the actors were police, then they changed clothes, some into ambulance crew and some to pose as victims.

It's police changing into tactical gear. This was on Sky News and happened after the attack.

conditioned games

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It's police changing into tactical gear. This was on Sky News and happened after the attack.

Did you see the guy changing from police clothes to camouflage pants, then the same guy was posing as a victim lying on the road. Doesn't look right at all.

Dohnjoe

conditioned games wrote: »

Did you see the guy changing from police clothes to camouflage pants, then the same guy was posing as a victim lying on the road. Doesn't look right at all.

These police are changing over an hour after the attack

Overheal

also if he's supposed to be a victim in that still image, where is the blood? Or the raw footage for that matter. Just looks like some deep dive cherrypicking by a basement youtube star.

Dohnjoe

Overheal wrote: »

also if he's supposed to be a victim in that still image, where is the blood? Or the raw footage for that matter. Just looks like some deep dive cherrypicking by a basement youtube star.

If one policeman getting changed after the attack into camo pants (similar to the slain terrorist one hour earlier) is enough to convince someone the whole thing is an inside job.. then in my experience all the reason, logic and evidence in the world isn't going to convince them otherwise

conditioned games

Overheal wrote: »

also if he's supposed to be a victim in that still image, where is the blood? Or the raw footage for that matter. Just looks like some deep dive cherrypicking by a basement youtube star.

There is no blood, well spotted, maybe you see through the charade also. In fact alot of the photos they take lack blood, such as the dummy of a woman they placed under a bus per below

https://nodisinfo.com/london-terrorist-attack-fake-hoax/

conditioned games

Dohnjoe wrote: »

If one policeman getting changed after the attack into camo pants (similar to the slain terrorist one hour earlier) is enough to convince someone the whole thing is an inside job.. then in my experience all the reason, logic and evidence in the world isn't going to convince them otherwise

I've also mentioned other points already that says these attacks look like false flags.

Overheal

conditioned games wrote: »

There is no blood, well spotted, maybe you see through the charade also. In fact alot of the photos they take lack blood, such as the dummy of a woman they placed under a bus per below

https://nodisinfo.com/london-terrorist-attack-fake-hoax/

And yet, most of those photos contain copious amounts of "fake" blood. As for the lady under the bus, we aren't tomatoes: you can roll over someone's midsection and blood won't just start spraying everywhere. In fact, there are a lot of attempts at diagnoses from low rez images that in most cases don't even show a full side of a person. "Fake blood being applied! No wounds!" when the person in question is all but obscured by the person helping them; they could have a 12" hole that goes through their left lung and you'd be none the wiser from the photo.

conditioned games

I'm sorry, you have not addressed my points at all.

conditioned games wrote: »

We live in a world of controlled manipulation through the mainstream media. Having an actor play a dead victim is easier to capture through the lens than finding people in the immediate aftermath of a bomb. Why leave it to chance to get the right photo broadcast to the world.

Why would they have trouble finding a victim in the aftermath of a bomb?
Why wouldn't they just plant two people, a camera man and a victim, get the shot they need for whatever reason and just use a real bomb?

What purpose does the rest of it serve other than to leave clues for folks like you?

conditioned games wrote: »

The actors changed behind the ambulances. From the video it looks like it is from a camera phone from a distance. It looks like they thought no one was looking while they changed.

But you just said that they didn't want to take chances, up to the point of hiring fake victims to make sure they got nice pictures.
But now you are saying they're willing to leave stuff to chance when it comes to the actual event?
Having these actors pull double shifts and change on site in full view seems like a pointless, unnecessary risk.

Why would they take this risk, but not the risk associated with using a real bomb? It doesn't make sense...

conditioned games wrote: »

From the footage it looks like Crisis Solutions are been cheap. Firstly the actors were police, then they changed clothes, some into ambulance crew and some to pose as victims.

Why would they be cheap? Why go through all of this expense to fake every aspect of the attack (and others) only then to cheap out on actors?

You know what would be far far cheaper?
Real bomb.

greenspurs

conditioned games wrote: »

Lack of video evidence in Manchester and London, simulated staging of terror attack with police before they happen, attackers so happen to be known to police and with their ID on them, prevention of real firefighters and ambulances to the scene, Crisis Solutions who stage the terror attacks in advance have the 666 symbol in their logo meaning their Luciferian, in photos showing dummies as dead they take off the shoes which is a symbol to other Luciferians around the world they are in control and also the tendency to use 11th and 22nd of month to stage the false flag attacks.

Where would one find out about all these examples you have given ?

conditioned games

greenspurs wrote: »

Where would one find out about all these examples you have given ?

From various sources on youtube. I listen to some videos from Ole Dammegard such as the one below where he tries to decode the messages the global elites leave in the false flag attacks, so he can predict where the next one is. He has got a few of them right such as the recent one in London. The next one is meant to be planned for Copenhagen so we shall see.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uzwoS7uRAWg

Dohnjoe

Ole Dammegard is another one of these nonsense-merchants, holocaust denier types who make money from gullible people selling them fantastical horse****

He's as bad as Alex Jones

Conspiracy theorists really need to take off the blinkers, open their eyes and ask questions about these types of people who make a living off this

conditioned games

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Ole Dammegard is another one of these nonsense-merchants, holocaust denier types who make money from gullible people selling them fantastical horse****

He's as bad as Alex Jones

Conspiracy theorists really need to take off the blinkers, open their eyes and ask questions about these types of people who make a living off this

Of course, let's take the blinkers off and rely on the mass produced garbage from the controlled mainstream media. And if anyone questions the brainwashing from the mainstream media we will call them conspiracy theorists.

conditioned games

conditioned games wrote: »

Of course, let's take the blinkers off and rely on the mass produced garbage from the controlled mainstream media. And if anyone questions the brainwashing from the mainstream media we will call them conspiracy theorists.

Are you going to be answering my questions at any point?

Why should anyone buy into your version of events when you can't show how it makes sense?

Dohnjoe

conditioned games wrote: »

Of course, let's take the blinkers off and rely on the mass produced garbage from the controlled mainstream media. And if anyone questions the brainwashing from the mainstream media we will call them conspiracy theorists.

You are comparing hundreds of diverse credible and accountable sources, broadsheets, long-standing independent media outlets (like the Guardian), national broadcasters, veteran reporters, independent and freelance journalists, experts and academics (including thousands of historians), scientific journals; countries with the highest standards of impartiality and rated highest on the press free index

With monkeys who make youtube videos..

really?

It's the mental euivalent of dismissing hundreds of years of astronomy and the efforts and studies of thousands of scientists in favour of mystic meg's horoscope.. then lecturing other people to get their heads out of the sand

conditioned games

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You are comparing hundreds of diverse credible and accountable sources, broadsheets, long-standing independent media outlets (like the Guardian), national broadcasters, veteran reporters, independent and freelance journalists, experts and academics (including thousands of historians), scientific journals; countries with the highest standards of impartiality and rated highest on the press free index

With monkeys who make youtube videos..

really?

It's the mental euivalent of dismissing hundreds of years of astronomy and the efforts and studies of thousands of scientists in favour of mystic meg's horoscope.. then lecturing other people to get their heads out of the sand

Credible sources, really? So for example when the US used chemical weapons in Syria to blame Assad and 48hrs later dropped bombs, did RTE news for example verify where the chemical weapons came from, or did they go with what they were told. They had no issue saying Assad did it without any proof.

Nearly every news channel and print media use the same language, blame the same people and go with the same version of what happened. Do any of these actually investigate what happened or do they rehash what they're told.

With instant media all around the world, they all use the same version of events from the same grapevine without any of them taking the time to question what they have been told. And you think this information is impartial and accurate?

conditioned games

conditioned games wrote: »

Nearly every news channel and print media use the same language, blame the same people and go with the same version of what happened. Do any of these actually investigate what happened or do they rehash what they're told.

Funny you say this when my points remain completely unaddressed.
Did you investigate (and I mean really investigate, not watch youtube videos) any of the claims you repeated? Did you question any of them?

The fact that you were unable to address my points and the fact you're burying your head and trying to pretend they don't exist show that you have not.

Dohnjoe

conditioned games wrote: »

Credible sources, really? So for
example when the US used chemical weapons in Syria to blame Assad and 48hrs later dropped bombs, did RTE news for example verify where the chemical weapons came from, or did they go with what they were told. They had no issue saying Assad did it without any proof.

That's your personal conspiracy theory. Experts and reporters on the ground contradict those kind of views

Nearly every news channel and print media use the same language, blame the same people and go with the same version of what happened. Do any of these actually investigate what happened or do they rehash what they're told.

Different countries, different cultures, different languages, they report and investigate that's their job. Quality depends on the outlet, the story, their reporters and a host of factors.

With instant media all around the world, they all use the same version of events from the same grapevine without any of them taking the time to question what they have been told. And you think this information is impartial and accurate?

Again this is your personal world view - it doesn't represent reality. If it were true they'd all save a lot of money sending one or two reporters to Ukraine - instead there were hundreds from all over the world, independently verifying and corroborating the information

Deciding information must be controlled, because it's the same - is pretty ridiculous

It's the same because it represents the truth. Multiple reports on a football match? the same, why? it's what happened

Ipso

I feel my rights and freedoms are safe if the people who are going to take them away can't think of hiring different people for different parts of their false flags.

conditioned games

King Mob wrote: »

Funny you say this when my points remain completely unaddressed.
Did you investigate (and I mean really investigate, not watch youtube videos) any of the claims you repeated? Did you question any of them?

The fact that you were unable to address my points and the fact you're burying your head and trying to pretend they don't exist show that you have not.

Possible reasons why they use the same actors is it is easier to keep the charade under wraps the less people that know or maybe they get a kick out of using the same people, see how asleep the population is and their way of mocking us. Below is more pictures of people used at different false flag events. Definitely worth keeping an open mind at least rather than immediately believing everything the mainstream media tells you.

http://thetruthfulone.com/false-flag-crisis-actors/

Dohnjoe

conditioned games wrote: »

Possible reasons why they use the same actors is it is easier to keep the charade under wraps the less people that know or maybe they get a kick out of using the same people, see how asleep the population is and their way of mocking us. Below is more pictures of people used at different false flag events. Definitely worth keeping an open mind at least rather than immediately believing everything the mainstream media tells you.

http://thetruthfulone.com/false-flag-crisis-actors/

So all the dead terrorists are actors, then the police that shot them must be actors too right? and the 8 victims are also actors? (presumably that means all their family, relatives and friends are actors too or it would be blown), which would mean the 48 wounded in the hospital are actors also, and their friends, families and relatives too.. obviously that means all the hundreds of first responders, emergency staff, medical staff, doctors, surgeons, nurses across the 8 hospitals who treated these "fake wounds" are also actors..

Do they continue working at these hospitals? are they mixed with real staff? if they are.. won't the real staff notice hundreds of "new" staff suddenly appearing/disappearing?

And all the investigators, involved metropolitan police, forensics, pathologists, detectives.. presumably actors too right or the whole thing is blown.. do they just appear or do they have to work for years to build a back story? where do the advertise for these acting jobs? on the internet? craigslist?

"Wanted: 65 professional doctors to treat fake wounded people, involves several years work in a hospital, good pay, shot if you reveal the story"

conditioned games

This addresses some of my points, but not all of them. Are you going back to address the others or are you going to continue ignoring them?
Maybe you can explain why you are ignoring them?

conditioned games wrote: »

Possible reasons why they use the same actors is it is easier to keep the charade under wraps the less people that know or maybe they get a kick out of using the same people, see how asleep the population is and their way of mocking us.

But these explainations don't make sense and they are self contradictory.
You say they are using the same actors to keep the conspiracy small. However this fails to make sense as Dohnjoe points out, it would require hundreds of actors to pull off. A handful of them pulling double duty would not make much of a difference. Additionally, if they were concerned about keeping the conspiracy small, then they would just plant a real bomb. That would require far far less people to pull off.

You reasons also contradict each other. You say they want to keep the conspiracy small, presumably to keep it secret. But then you say that they are deliberately leaving clues for ****s and giggles.
So they want to keep it secret, but they also want to tell everyone?
That doesn't make sense and it's a contradiction in terms.

Finally, you previously claimed that the reason that thesse supposedly fake police officers were caught was because it was a mistake:

conditioned games wrote: »

The actors changed behind the ambulances. From the video it looks like it is from a camera phone from a distance. It looks like they thought no one was looking while they changed.

Now you're saying that it was on purpose?
Which is it? Cause they contradict each other and can't both be the explanation, nor do either of them make sense alone...

Your explanations don't seem to make any sort of sense and it appears like you are just spouting the first thing that pops to your head without actually thinking about it...

conditioned games wrote: »

Below is more pictures of people used at different false flag events. Definitely worth keeping an open mind at least rather than immediately believing everything the mainstream media tells you.

http://thetruthfulone.com/false-flag-crisis-actors/

So immediately believe everything conspiracy theory media tell you even if it doesn't make any sense if you apply a second of critical thought to it?

conditioned games

The questions of why the global elites use actors for their false flags is something they can know. I can only hazard a guess for their motives. One reason I highlighted is it's an experiment of how much they can get away with and it's their way of mocking the masses. There was a backlash over the below stunt they pulled when they used strange names for 4 pilots that crash landed in San Fran. In that case they went too far and had to backtrack by firing tv producers.


https://www.dailydot.com/news/ktvu-fires-producers-racist-asiana-gaffe/

thomasm

conditioned games wrote: »

The questions of why the global elites use actors for their false flags is something they can know. I can only hazard a guess for their motives. One reason I highlighted is it's an experiment of how much they can get away with and it's their way of mocking the masses. There was a backlash over the below stunt they pulled when they used strange names for 4 pilots that crash landed in San Fran. In that case they went too far and had to backtrack by firing tv producers.


https://www.dailydot.com/news/ktvu-fires-producers-racist-asiana-gaffe/

Mocking the masses!! So it's not world domination just them having a bit of craic

conditioned games

For world domination they will need a one world currency and government. Given the masses believe everything they are told through the controlled mainstream media, if I were them I too would experiment on what they can get away with. Other forms of experimentation they use are subliminal messages through music and cartoons. Check out the below

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U2T3n9cFA2w

conditioned games

conditioned games wrote: »

The questions of why the global elites use actors for their false flags is something they can know.

You've yet to establish they they do use actors in the first place.
And now, given that you're admitting that you cannot explain why they would do so, we're not seeing a very good reason to believe your claim.

It simply does not make any sense for them to use actors and were the conspiracy theory true, they would not use actors at all.

conditioned games wrote: »

I can only hazard a guess for their motives. One reason I highlighted is it's an experiment of how much they can get away with and it's their way of mocking the masses.

Yes, and it's been pointed out how this doesn't make sense and contradicts all of the other motives you've claimed.


Please stop ignoring questions. They do not go away when you do.
It just makes it look like you are doing what you are accusing all us doubters of.

By ignoring these questions it looks exactly like you have bought what the media has told you without question...

It looks more like you'd prefer to spam random links rather than debate or try to convince anyone of your arguments....

Overheal

conditioned games wrote: »

The questions of why the global elites use actors for their false flags is something they can know. I can only hazard a guess for their motives. One reason I highlighted is it's an experiment of how much they can get away with and it's their way of mocking the masses. There was a backlash over the below stunt they pulled when they used strange names for 4 pilots that crash landed in San Fran. In that case they went too far and had to backtrack by firing tv producers.


https://www.dailydot.com/news/ktvu-fires-producers-racist-asiana-gaffe/

Widely understood that the local station reacted to a bad tip/phone prank and they tried to "scoop" the pilot names before the national media. Not sure how or why that would constitute a conspiracy.

Doesn't address King Mobs excellent point of why it wouldn't be more expedient to just plant real bombs or perform real attacks.

You're jumping all over the place here. The only conspiracy here seems to be someone trolling and they are running out of ice to skate on. Yes. That's a warning.

conditioned games

King Mob wrote: »

You've yet to establish they they do use actors in the first place.
And now, given that you're admitting that you cannot explain why they would do so, we're not seeing a very good reason to believe your claim.

It simply does not make any sense for them to use actors and were the conspiracy theory true, they would not use actors at all.


Yes, and it's been pointed out how this doesn't make sense and contradicts all of the other motives you've claimed.


Please stop ignoring questions. They do not go away when you do.
It just makes it look like you are doing what you are accusing all us doubters of.

By ignoring these questions it looks exactly like you have bought what the media has told you without question...

It looks more like you'd prefer to spam random links rather than debate or try to convince anyone of your arguments....

It would make sense to use crisis actors, as it would be easier to get the right message across the controlled mainstream media by having an operation that is more tightly controlled. Their goal here is to manipulate public sentiment to agree to their pre-determined agenda. Using crisis actors does help to get their message across. If you have any other questions, list them in bullet points and I'll see if I can answer them.