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Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II **off topic discussion**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    pass this on the way home, always amuses me (and makes up for the recent demise of the "Soon Fatt" Chinese takeaway in Bray).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    loyatemu wrote: »
    pass this on the way home, always amuses me (and makes up for the recent demise of the "Soon Fatt" Chinese takeaway in Bray).
    Reminds me of Open All Hours.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    http://humantransit.org/2017/06/dublin-imagine-a-better-bus-network-design.html
    Today, the National Transport Authority of Ireland launched the planning process that will lead to a redesign of the bus network in Dublin. We are incredibly honored and excited to be their lead consultant on this effort. I explain the planning issues (for a Dublin audience) here.

    Our project is part of BusConnects, which is a three-pronged effort to improve Dublin’s buses:

    Network redesign (our project)
    Fare and ticketing improvements, for faster boarding/alighting and to ensure that the fare system does not discourage changing buses.
    Projects to improve bus speed and reliability throughout the city.

    (some links in there when you go to the actual page).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Miklos


    Dumoulin isn't going anywhere. Glad to see he's sticking with Sunweb, and glad to see that Sunweb are looking that far ahead as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,908 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Saw on Twitter today: can you add up all the numbers between 1 and 100 (inclusive) in your head? How long does it take you? (Hint: there's a handy shortcut.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭manafana


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Saw on Twitter today: can you add up all the numbers between 1 and 100 (inclusive) in your head? How long does it take you? (Hint: there's a handy shortcut.)

    101 x 50 no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭Diarmuid


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Saw on Twitter today: can you add up all the numbers between 1 and 100 (inclusive) in your head? How long does it take you? (Hint: there's a handy shortcut.)

    (99+1) + (98+2) + .... + 50 + 100


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Diarmuid wrote: »
    (99+1) + (98+2) + .... + 50 + 100

    you gave no actual answer. When I heard this 25+ years ago I copped the 99+1=100 98+2=100 -but without writing things down or overthinking I could not immediately think what happened around the 50 mark, so I could not give an answer straight off, but knew it was "easy" or trivial enough due to this fact.

    Poster before you had what I consider the easier way to do it in your head, look at 101 rather than 100. Split them 1-50 and 51-100. The sums are 101 and 50 of them, so 5050.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Or just ask Quora, which says 5,050.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,908 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Yeah, that's it. Thought it was quite good.

    The solution I saw involved bringing in zero to make the pairings a bit easier:
    100 + 0
    99 + 1
    98 + 2
    etc.
    Continue nibbling away at both ends of the number line until you're left with 50 in the middle; 50 pairs totalling 100 each, plus the last 50.

    Reminds me a bit of this old one, about the fly buzzing back and forth between two boys approaching each other on bicycle:
    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080326064504AAOXZKj

    (At least this one has bicycles in it, I suppose.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Chuchote wrote: »
    Or just ask Quora.
    yeah, I know this utter idiot who still does crosswords, little does the fool know the answers will be out tomorrow. Imagine been so stupid as to waste time exercising your mind...
    tomasrojo wrote: »
    Continue nibbling away at both ends of the number line until you're left with 50 in the middle; 50 pairs totalling 100 each, plus the last 50.
    I still think the "middle" bit is what throws people, and this is why if actually asked (with no googling or writing stuff down) it is rarer to hear the actual answer, but you might hear that people have copped onto the theory, and why it is apparently not as hard as it sounds.

    Another interesting fact is that if the sum of a numbers digits is a mulitple of 9 then it is divisible by 9. e.g 22221 is 2+2+2+2+2+1=9 and so divisible by 9. 22221/9=2469

    or 2222136=246904 (36 stuck on the end.)

    stick 3 & 6 anywhere or order and it is still divisible

    3622221/9=402469

    2232261/9=248029

    2623221/9=291469

    with that trick you can get people to come up with numbers longer than a calculator can take, and spend a lot of time seemingly doing the maths in your head


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,278 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Interesting video.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/aa-roadwatch-releases-dramatic-footage-of-car-flipping-over-on-dublin-road-1.3103081

    What struck me was:

    1. I wonder whether the Gardai checked phone records for the driver?
    2. I wonder what would have happened to that pedestrian if she'd been a few metres back up the road?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    rubadub wrote: »
    yeah, I know this utter idiot who still does crosswords, little does the fool know the answers will be out tomorrow. Imagine been so stupid as to waste time exercising your mind...

    Depends on the mind. Mine isn't capable of doing anything arithmetical.

    For instance, the fly-and-bikes problem tomasrojo cites - I looked at that, and the people answering it agreed that the fly, because it's going 60mph for half an hour, must have flown 30 miles, and the boys on the bikes cycling towards each other at 10mph are nothing to do with it.

    This completely baffles me, because surely if the boys are going slowly towards each other, and will meet in… umm, if they're going 10mph for an hour, they'll meet in… oh, God, is it 10 minutes? No, that can't be right… would you divide the 60 minutes in the hour by 10? No, that doesn't sound right either. Wait, wait, you have to know how far apart they are to know when they'll meet, and then… This is the point when tears start to my eyes and I hurry away, furtively wiping my face with a tissue.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,420 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Yup, that would be me. Funny thing is that the family divides into people who can't do arithmetic and people who are super-good at it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,420 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Chuchote wrote: »
    Funny thing is that the family divides into people who can't do arithmetic and people who are super-good at it.
    it's probably the people who are good at it who do the division.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    The future of cycling fashion.......or just novel re-use of a pair of Sidis....?

    Check out @HoracioMelvin's Tweet: https://twitter.com/HoracioMelvin/status/872222085657112577?s=09


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,001 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    First tail wind of the year.

    30kmph without pedalling, 40 with mild effort and 50 pushing at normal levels. My commute was 20% faster. Probably the last one of the year but it was fun while it lasted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    I had a reversible tailwind yesterday; behind me all the way to Ringsend, then behind me again almost all the way home along the Dodder. Bizarre but I'm not complaining.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    What's the point of the car driving ahead of the cyclist? Is it just drafting to get a faster time on a route? The cyclist seemed to know the route quite well as she bunny hopped a couple of large potholes. Not much time/distance to see them coming with the car so close.

    Is it acceptable on a road such as this? It was causing tailbacks and as the photos show, was making some drivers overtake on a continuous white line.

    bike_1.jpg


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Looks like was motorpacing. If she'd been cycling without the car in front, she'd still need to be overtaken, so I'm not sure what the problem is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    She's a lot easier to overtake as a single bike than a car. That's pretty obvious. Drivers lose patience, as I witnessed, and overtake dangerously.
    I'm happy enough to wait for a chance to overtake safely myself. I just wanted to know what the car was for really.
    People often complain about group cyclists with a slow escort vehicle, this looked like an extreme version of that.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    There's no way someone could have safely overtaken her alone without crossing the white line.

    The other thing to consider is that one cyclist + one car probably takes up about as much road space as a group of say eight cyclists two abreast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Alek


    Drivers lose patience, as I witnessed, and overtake dangerously.

    Oh, I see the problem now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    There's no way someone could have safely overtaken her alone without crossing the white line.

    As witnessed in a lot of videos they do try, and then move back in too fast and close to the cyclist. At least with a car that's somewhat minimised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Is the driver legally obliged to "keep up with traffic". I heard of someone who was done for speeding slightly over the limit on a road which is very common to see cars speeding on (rochestown avenue, near bakers corner), this is since many parts of it are quite open and there would be no driveways immediately at roadside cars figure they can go faster.

    After that they were very cautious, going at most 5mph below the limit. They were pulled in by the garda and told they were to speed up as they were not "keeping up with traffic", I was not sure if it would fall under a law.

    A quick google of "illegal to drive too slow" lists "impeding traffic" from sites around the world
    No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic
    In Florida, the minimum speed on interstates is 40 mph except in those areas where the speed limit on the interstate is 70 mph, then the minimum speed is 50 mph.
    Sgt Judson wrote that while there is no specific offence for driving too slow, it can be categorised as driving without due care and consideration and could result in police action.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    I think it would depend on the speed limit, the speed the car is doing, and how long it was travelling at that speed.

    For example, it would be permissible to drive a tractor at 50kph in a 80kph zone. But you may get done for it if you did it for 40 minutes and neglected to take any opportunities in that to let faster moving traffic behind you past.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I don't know what the biggest WTF is with this, the trucker thinking this looked cool, or the moron who's first thought on it was to ban cyclists.

    https://m.facebook.com/angardasiochana/photos/a.10155033564458001.1073742859.167613868000/10155033564568001/?type=3&source=54

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/872480102960988161


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,094 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    I think it would depend on the speed limit, the speed the car is doing, and how long it was travelling at that speed.

    For example, it would be permissible to drive a tractor at 50kph in a 80kph zone. But you may get done for it if you did it for 40 minutes and neglected to take any opportunities in that to let faster moving traffic behind you past.
    Many vehicles are legally restricted to a limit which is way below the posted limit. A double deck bus is legally restricted to 65km/h yet perfectly legal to use on on a motorway with a posted limit of 120km/h. While a motorway will have at least 2 lanes, if the same bus was on a 'normal' road with a 100km/h limit, there would be no obligation on the driver to take opportunities to allow faster vehicles to pass.


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