London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

Really Interested wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3525507/sara-rowbotham-rochdale-child-grooming-sex-abuse-scandal/amp/

She is left liberal and yet she was ignored by the police (not usually the liberals)

But you look at someone like Tommy Robinson who has said about the grooming/radicalisation/terrorism for a long time but he gets called racist/bigot by all but turns out he was right all along

Help!!!! wrote: »

And why is that?? Because liberals will come out & cry racism/bigotry

its actually quite funny to see that the majority of the reference to race, religion, origin etc are coming from the same people who are giving out about it! and since Saturday, "civil liberties" seems to be the new obsession for these people.

"This is because the west are bombing us, nothing to do with your religion"

roddy15 wrote: »

Calling to reverse police cuts is a pro-terrorism stance?

No-it's the only one that clearly isn't, although I wonder how much he will hamstring them-but will he even do it? Given him advisers' connections to groups with aims like dismantling MI5 (Andrew Fisher and I think Seumas Milne too) it's impossible to imagine him suddenly taking a grown up attitude to the problem.

May is in a position where she would do it if elected anyway, and has a better head on her shoulders to deal with ISIS.

One would hope that he is not truly going to rely on his planned cessation of anti ISIS airstrikes in Syria to sort this out (and that it won't just give them breathing space to regroup and overrun the place again).

Gamebred wrote: »

Without scare mongering or thinking too far ahead Ireland would be a perfect hub for these Jihadi's, virtually no police force of note in comparison to m15 counter terrorism units, and only 30 mins flight to the UK to network and carry out attacks.

There's a comment on the Primetime video of the Clonskeagh Mosque on YouTube from 10 months ago that warned of the same thing. We can only hope it is scaremongering but what we now know about the latest attack, it's a little worrying to think that he could possibly have been radicalised here.


"I have tried to warn people of the silent but growing Islamist footprint in Ireland, & how Ireland is being turned into what Belgium is to France, the command & operation center to plan attacks in the UK. But the naivety is rampant & stupidity quite appalling. Naivety in the sense that Irish people through no fault of their own are still not familiar with what Islam exactly is & stupidy in the sense that some would defend it despite being ignorant of its true nature. I have lived among muslims, have relatives who are muslims, have dated muslims, have studied the religion yet i'm told i'm an islamophobe & bigot by people who have probably not even met a ****ing muslim in their life. Everytime I go to sandyford & look at that mosque/islamic centre it is obvious to me that gulf money was involved in its establishment. My ex was a saudi who always had a weird expression whenever i mentioned that mosque. Also the guys preaching near the GPO r not ordinary muslims, i can identify a "normal" muslim & one who is shady, & those guys are of the latter category, no doubt about that! My Ireland is being infiltrated slowly with a filth that would be impossible to get rid of once it starts taking firm roots, but one ****ing listens! I know they aint gonna attack Ireland now coz they thrive here unhindered, they can do whatever they want freely without being bothered by any agency(the closest thing we have to an MI5 here is a useless branch of the gardai!)& they have massive support from the ignorants. But make no mistake, just like belgium, we will in the future face problems...problems we won't be able to solve due to the high penetration & concentration of this cancer!"

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I suspect that British security forces are well informed of the jihadis in Ireland. We are keeping a lid on this, but each country knows well who to watch.

Hopefully.

I would be a tad concerned about Clonskeagh mosque and that fella and his family Halawa.

But I am sure the police here have it all under control. Whew.

I would be completely shocked if our force have anything under control. I have the image in my head of them just sitting around with their heads buried in the sand hoping an attack doesn't happen here.

It's the breakaway mosques that they should be looking at. The one in Blackpitts is made up of the more extreme and radicalised members and it's obviously getting a larger number of members as it's bought new premises and is building on a huge new mosque, coffee shop and museum in the next few years. Obviously expecting a lot more members in the years to come. Hopefully this is being monitored by gardai and the extreme members deported.

Samaris wrote: »

I would be very surprised if the Gardai aren't actually fairly well on top of it all. I don't say they'll manage to stop a lone wolf attack because they are by their nature extremely hard to stop. But the Gardai do have a history with another terrorist group with similar tactics (albeit the ISIS tactics are even more decentralised and harder to stop) and have information conduits and intelligence connections with other countries from those days that have gradually morphed into focus on ISIS and their ilk.

I don't say that they'll succeed in stopping the first attack that's launched (and I think we'll probably get attacked sooner or later too), but I think they've got as good a shot as any other country that's not directly had one yet.

I'd be a lot less optimistic. We do not have a GCHQ style blanket of surveillance capacity to monitor these people and several of the latest arrests have been dependent on the Brits or Yanks passsing on info.

As for the guards prior experience with terrorism, I don't know how much that counts for with a threat you can't monitor in the digital age, can't infiltrate and are not 'known to you'.
Another important factor to consider is that when PS pension and pay reforms were introduced during the crash, a hell of a lot of experienced guards took early retirement to retain pension benefits or avail of generous cost cutting early retirement packages and as a result there has been a very real and considerable 'brain drain' of experienced guards who left the force and took all that knowledge with them.