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1 killed and another found dead during siege Melbourne

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    Persephone kindness
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    My prayers to the victims families and that hostages will be released.


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    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/emergency-crews-responding-to-explosion-in-brighton/news-story/432d22f46235bc4f810581d6cd5965d7?nk=ccff97c741c550287122bd2dfdd1a618-1496654755


    Don't forget to give out extra hugs and love, apparently this is the answer.

    Extra hugs to who?

    The reason behind the incident remains unclear.

    A Victoria Police statement said: “Police are investigating whether the incident is terrorism related.”



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    Erik Shin
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    When IS are finally beaten will it be known as TISWAS ?


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    Slydice
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    https://twitter.com/VictoriaPolice/status/871658526682210305


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    Persephone kindness
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    Slydice wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/VictoriaPolice/status/871658526682210305
    I am very glad. She must have been so distressed.


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    conditioned games
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    Erik Shin wrote: »
    When IS are finally beaten will it be known as TISWAS ?

    They would rebrand and with help from the US and Britain they would reappear years later calling themselves something else.


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    Samaris
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    Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/emergency-crews-responding-to-explosion-in-brighton/news-story/432d22f46235bc4f810581d6cd5965d7?nk=ccff97c741c550287122bd2dfdd1a618-1496654755


    Don't forget to give out extra hugs and love, apparently this is the answer.

    God I find these openers depressing. A total lack of care for what's actually happened, just a spiteful little dig. I don't understand how people can be so devoid of empathy that their first reaction to the terror and pain of another human being is what amounts to "nyah nyah!"

    As useless as "extra hugs and love" may be, it's still probably a better answer than using it for your own petty agenda in safety half a world away from the pain, misery and death.

    It's sickening. All of it.

    I have no prayers and nothing I can offer but the hope that the people involved will be able to move on from the horror they suffered and the family of the dead man can heal.


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    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Not even a shred of evidence yet that its ab"terrorist" attack but p.o. throws it straight into the thread title.

    Sounds more like a love triangle situation to me but will wait for the facts to come out before commenting further.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Not even a shred of evidence yet that its ab"terrorist" attack but p.o. throws it straight into the thread title.

    Sounds more like a love triangle situation to me but will wait for the facts to come out before commenting further.


    And they hold that against you too nowadays.

    Pesky facts.

    RIP


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    drunkmonkey
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    Did he get shot before he finished the sentance?


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    jaykay74
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    Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/emergency-crews-responding-to-explosion-in-brighton/news-story/432d22f46235bc4f810581d6cd5965d7?nk=ccff97c741c550287122bd2dfdd1a618-1496654755


    Don't forget to give out extra hugs and love, apparently this is the answer.

    Trumpian


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    [Deleted User]
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    OP is in the know. Cops still investigating if this has terrorist links but they called it first.


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    Peregrine
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    Title changed


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    Biggest lickspittle on boardz
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    Samaris wrote: »
    God I find these openers depressing. A total lack of care for what's actually happened, just a spiteful little dig. I don't understand how people can be so devoid of empathy that their first reaction to the terror and pain of another human being is what amounts to "nyah nyah!"

    As useless as "extra hugs and love" may be, it's still probably a better answer than using it for your own petty agenda in safety half a world away from the pain, misery and death.

    It's sickening. All of it.

    I have no prayers and nothing I can offer but the hope that the people involved will be able to move on from the horror they suffered and the family of the dead man can heal.

    People who react to atrocities with X-factor style emotional outbursts and pointless trendy 'love and hugs' crap deserve all the ridicule they get. And you can add #prayfor[insert latest attack here] to that.

    If they put that energy into asking the difficult questions we would be out of this mess a lot faster.

    Unlike some theatrical drama queens, I have no emotional attachment to the victims in this case. Harsh, but true. And it's utter pathetic when you see people trying to outdo each other for the most tear-jerking, heartfelt social media whoring post.


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    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »
    People who react to atrocities with X-factor style emotional outbursts and pointless trendy 'love and hugs' crap deserve all the ridicule they get. And you can add #prayfor[insert latest attack here] to that.

    If they put that energy into asking the difficult questions we would be out of this mess a lot faster.

    Unlike some theatrical drama queens, I have no emotional attachment to the victims in this case. Harsh, but true. And it's utter pathetic when you see people trying to outdo each other for the most tear-jerking, heartfelt social media whoring post.

    And yet you rushed in here to create a thread claiming a terrorist had been shot dead without a single shred of evidence to prove your claim :rolleyes:


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    manonboard
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    Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »
    If they put that energy into asking the difficult questions we would be out of this mess a lot faster.
    Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »
    I have no emotional attachment to the victims in this case. Harsh, but true.

    May i suggest seriously using your own logic on to yourself.
    The people who want to offer love and care to the perpetrators HAVE asked the serious questions of themselves. They see that inciting violence of any nature increases violence. They know the violent agenda at play is furthered by creating division.

    You, however, may want to ask yourself why you are so emotionally detached from the victims, and the perpetrators. Are you afraid of something to try ask that? To try form that connection? Was there something missing in your life which failed to teach you how to connect on that level? How come that attachment is not present for you? Why did you call others who have that attachment theatrical drama queens instead of acknowledging them as normal people with good empathy? Of course, they have some ignorance, so do i, so do you.


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    Biggest lickspittle on boardz
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And yet you rushed in here to create a thread claiming a terrorist had been shot dead without a single shred of evidence to prove your claim :rolleyes:

    I suggest you read the link.
    The Herald Sun can confirm the gunmen is known to counter-terrorism police.

    A male caller to the Channel 7 newsroom in Melbourne said: “This is for IS” and “this is for Al-Qaeda.” The station said a woman could be heard screaming in the background.

    A Victoria Police statement confirmed police are investigating whether the incident is terrorism related.

    If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...


    Oh hang on, you're trying to do the 'It's not 100% fully proven yet, so we don't know yet!"

    Shortly followed by "OK it is proven now, but he was mentally ill! This has nothing to do with Islam/it's the West's fault for bombing them/it's not that big a deal/more people die from car crashes than terrorism/everyone is racist" repeated ad infinitum...


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    wakka12
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    'siege'?? Seems more like a minor hostage situation, media are really going for those attention grabbing headlines..


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    Erik Shin
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    'siege'?? Seems more like a minor hostage situation, media are really going for those attention grabbing headlines..

    Really? Christ... they've never done that before


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    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »
    I suggest you read the link.



    If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...


    Oh hang on, you're trying to do the 'It's not 100% fully proven yet, so we don't know yet!"

    Shortly followed by "OK it is proven now, but he was mentally ill! This has nothing to do with Islam/it's the West's fault for bombing them/it's not that big a deal/more people die from car crashes than terrorism/everyone is racist" repeated ad infinitum...

    Some contradictions in your link though
    Deputy Commissioner Andrew Crisp said police did not have any communication with the gunmen during the two hour seige.
    Mr Crisp said the identity of the gunmen was yet to be confirmed and police did not know whether the man and female hostage were known to each other.


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    Harry Palmr
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    Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »



    If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...



    mentally ill!

    Something that surely applies to you.


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    Biggest lickspittle on boardz
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    SITE Intelligence Group are reporting via Amaq News Agency that ISIS have claimed the attacker as one of their members:

    https://ent.siteintelgroup.com/Statements/amaq-reports-melbourne-attacker-a-soldier-of-the-is.html


    All the indications so far are that this was a terrorist incident.


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    RayM
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    Is there anything ISIS won't claim responsibility for?


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    maudgonner
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    RayM wrote: »
    Is there anything ISIS won't claim responsibility for?

    I sneezed yesterday and they claimed they had given me the cold. :mad:


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    RayM
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    maudgonner wrote: »
    I sneezed yesterday and they claimed they had given me the cold. :mad:

    I got a bad coffee in Costa last week and ISIS immediately claimed responsibility for it.


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    maudgonner
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    RayM wrote: »
    I got a bad coffee in Costa last week and ISIS immediately claimed responsibility for it.

    They're handy to have around if you fart though - no need to blame the dog.


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    Beyondgone
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    maudgonner wrote: »
    I sneezed yesterday and they claimed they had given me the cold. :mad:

    I mowed the lawn. ISIS didn't claim responsibility. Too much like hard work. If I spill my beer, there's a chance they will claim they did it. Useless cnuts. Good for wrecking, not so good for building.


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    con___manx1
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    When I lived in Melbourne 4 years ago i worked in a warehouse for a while in Dandenong. There was a guy arrested for being a suspected member of al Qaeda in the neighbouring warehouse. I worked with Iraqi Pakistani and Indian people mostly. One guy was from mousil. Close to where they found bin Laden. He said it was a pack of lies and no way was bin Laden there .he also hated Americans. I'm really not surprised about this attack. Brighton is quite a rich area.I would have thought an attack would have happened in the cbd where there is much more people.


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    ceadaoin.
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    The identity of the gunman has been confirmed? A 29 year old Somalian. Apparently this guy was charged with plotting a suicide attack several years ago but was acquitted. He has since committed armed robbery and been to prison. So well known to police anyway


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    threeball
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    con___manx1 wrote: »
    When I lived in Melbourne 4 years ago i worked in a warehouse for a while in Dandenong. There was a guy arrested for being a suspected member of al Qaeda in the neighbouring warehouse. I worked with Iraqi Pakistani and Indian people mostly. One guy was from mousil. Close to where they found bin Laden. He said it was a pack of lies and no way was bin Laden there .he also hated Americans. I'm really not surprised about this attack. Brighton is quite a rich area.I would have thought an attack would have happened in the cbd where there is much more people.

    I think you'll find mosul is half a continent away from where they found bin laden so I'd say he was talking through his hoop.


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