London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

There was mentions of ex Muslims earlier in the thread. I just noticed this on the Facebook page of the president of ''Ex Muslims of North America''. It reminded me that I'd read somewhere that ISIS wanted concerted attacks during Ramadan.

''On the 1st day of Ramadan (May 27) Allah's true lovers gave to us 1 suicide bombing and 13 dead!
On the 2nd and 3rd day of Ramadan (May 28/29) Allah's true lovers took some rest
On the 4th day of Ramadan (May 30) Allah's true lovers gave to us 1 car bombing and 30 plus dead!
On the 5th day of Ramadan (May 31) Allah's true lovers gave to us 1 car Bombing, 1 bombing and 107 dead!!
On the 6th day of Ramadan (June 1st) Allah's true lovers gave to us 3 bombings, 2 car bombing, 3 shootings and 31 dead!!
On the 7th day of Ramadan (June 2nd) Allah's true lovers gave to us 1 execution, 1 suicide bombing, 1 bombing and 13 dead!!
On the 8th day of Ramadan (June 3rd) Allah's true lovers gave to us 1 Suicide Bombing, 1 bombing, 1 Ambush, 2 shootings, 1 car attack and 37 dead!!''

Phoebas wrote: »

I don't do praying, but I do think we could do practical stuff to encourage integration.



Asylum is really just a tiny proportion of our total immigration. I wouldn't be as pessimistic as you.

We're back to 'hope' again, what's the difference between prayer and hope? Hope isn't a policy, hope is what you do when all else fails (a bit like prayer).
You also assume that particular migrant communities are actually interested in integration, what do you do when they aren't?

conorhal wrote: »

We're back to 'hope' again, what's the difference between prayer and hope? Hope isn't a policy, hope is what you do when all else fails (a bit like prayer).
You also assume that particular migrant communities are actually interested in integration, what do you do when they aren't?

I didn't reference 'hope' in that post. I did say we 'could do practical stuff to encourage integration'

Really Interested wrote: »

There are about 800,000 thousand non Irish living in Ireland. About 40,000 have some type of protection decision or leave to remain. How in gods name do those figures lead to the claim our immigration system is being driven by asylum.

You're numbers are absolute BS. Quote a source.

Beyondgone wrote: »

Balbriggan. Or Lucan.

Naming two places is not evidence of 'white flight'.

Phoebas wrote: »

I didn't reference 'hope' in that post. I did say we 'could do practical stuff to encourage integration'

It's defined by hope. What if particular communities are uninterested in your 'practical stuff'? What is 'practical stuff'? You know, other then 'general faff'...

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Best not to overreact until we see a pattern of sorts develop.

BBC political correspondent tonight was quoting a Whitehall source who said the terror threat in the UK was unprecedented.

The figures are very worrying. There were 13 terror plots in the UK between 2013 and 2017...there have been EIGHT in the last 70 days...

ligerdub wrote: »

To add to the white flight debate, there is a genuine danger that as culture changes, that it also changes for the indigenous. I understand that white people have a higher value as a target for radicalisation. They fly under the radar.

I won't even argue that Islam as a religion is violent. What is happening though, is that a fuse has been struck and the radical aspects of their religion has grown and it has done so massively. The presence of extreme groups online is reaching out and speaking to lost souls who share their religion all across the world. People with nothing else to lose find a cause, and they commit atrocities.

It's a catastrophic melting pot. These benefit concerts, hashtags and good vibes might make you feel better but this matters not one bit to evil losers who are willing to bomb an arena full of kids! There will still be attacks, murder, mayhem.

It needs to be stopped, not normalised!

They often have good prospects, education and prospects, in many cases and places above those of their immediate peers.

The evil losers routine is just a tag so people can try to undeestand it in a a way that makes sense to their western mindset.

EazyD wrote: »

How would my mother know? Oh I donno, possibly due to the fact that on a number of occasions she would get the same stares of disapproval (to put it lightly) upon coming across these individuals whilst out in shorts/frocks etc.

Probability would suggest it wasn't just presumption but do continue by all means.

In any of these occasions where your mother was subjected to someone staring at her, did she ever think of approaching the perpetrator and asking them what the stare was for?

Sick to death of all the empty rhetoric from so called "world leaders". Pure horse**** speeches every couple of weeks.
It's time to round up any of these ****wits that have arrived back from Syria, Iraq, Libya etc and are on watch lists. Leaving them walking the streets is like having a nest of hornets in your bedroom. The outcome is inevitable, so you need to remove the problem. Pc rubbish only goes so far.

Phoebas wrote: »

Where has it begun and what's the evidence for it.


I don't suggest that white flight doesn't exist or even that its not possible here. But, so far, I haven't seen it here. I hope it doesn't occur, but some people seem to be very antagonistic towards Muslims, so I guess its possible in the future.

I think the makeup of our Muslim population is quite different than the UK (more professionals, less from poorer socioeconomic groups), so I'm confident.

But only if we dont get mass immigration of Muslims. We have been lucky because the people that have come here, no matter where they have come from have come for the right reasons. If we get thousands all at once then it doesnt allow them to integrate properly & it also affects the local communities