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London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    really

    Yeah really. Bit you're on a roll so batter ahead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    on a roll they are

    lock them up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    omg they have one of the scum

    ****en kill the chunt

    shoot him

    dead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,106 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    That's exactly what you're doing, and you know it. 3 attacks in less than 10 weeks in the UK and you're saying combating terrorism isn't their number one priority. Sympathisers like you are part of the problem.

    The only one I'm sympathising with are the cops. They can not control what's happening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    The only one I'm sympathising with are the cops

    not the dead and injured?

    the ONLY ones you sympathise with are some cops?

    nice


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,734 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    COBRA meeting sounds so hardcore until I found out it only stands for.....

    Cabinet office briefing room A
    It's not the room that's "hardcore", it's the committee / what goes on in the room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    lock them up these terrorists their supporters and sympathisers

    That won't happen. As per the terrorist supporting hook man Abu hasma in the uk they will so fund millions (in legal aid) to defend some scumbag they know wants to massacre every one of them.

    The legal profession is a joke in the uk and Ireland. A gravy train for supporting the criminally minded. Murderers, paedophiles, terrorists, etc etc. No worries we will defend you for free as we can charge the public purse huge fees. A ****ing sick joke. ..... time to snap the necks of the fat cat legal profession for a start....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,106 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    not the dead and injured?

    the ONLY ones you sympathise with are some cops?

    nice

    Sweet fecking Jesus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    Sweet fecking Jesus

    je suis londre


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,419 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Let's not forget that our civil liberties will be infringed if the authorities are allowed access to any online activities that might prevent these atrocities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested



    It is an Act of Parliament so it is law and enacted. The Guardian report is 2014 the Act was passed in 2015.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    Let's not forget that our civil liberties will be infringed if the authorities are allowed access to any online activities that might prevent these atrocities.

    I'm ok with that

    nothing to hide apart from looking at chixwitdix :eek:

    lock me up

    I'm a potential London Terroriser


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Go Tobban wrote: »
    This is one of the the main issues

    By bombing ISIS targets and occupying middle eastern countries, you're likely killing innocent civilians who wouldn't have been radicalised in the first place. You're also creating a us vs them mentality in the country which inevitably breeds more hatred and the cycle likely continues forever

    If you don't bomb them, you're essentially showing them how weak you are and again, we get more of the same

    It's a catch 22 situation really that has no clear path to peace either way.

    What's the best form of damage control is the question really


    Not aimed at you specifically pal,bud mate(delete as appropriate)..sorry..I see plenty of merit in what you say...but.
    The bombing in ME is a smokescreen some people put up.
    The lads who are mad enough to carry out,what are basically suicide attacks,on a consistent basis are easily led.
    Easily led to an ideology,any ideology, that will corrupt soft minds.
    Just so happens there is one extreme ideology that's prevalent right now and Islam has plenty of excuses to give willing followers an opportunity for jihad,a curious number of Muslims accept killing themselves for their religion(or ME bombing)..whatever it is any of these terrorists are willing to die for what they believe....Thats strong belief.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    The only one I'm sympathising with are the cops. They can not control what's happening.

    What about the people that died?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    Let's not forget that our civil liberties will be infringed if the authorities are allowed access to any online activities that might prevent these atrocities.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/11/section/3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,106 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    What about the people that died?

    I wasn't on about them, it was about the cops getting grief for not preventing it. Don't mind the bot he seen 1 and made 11.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,106 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Let's not forget that our civil liberties will be infringed if the authorities are allowed access to any online activities that might prevent these atrocities.

    You can have them back for the price of a stamp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    I wasn't on about them, it was about the cops getting grief for not preventing it. Don't mind the bot he seen 1 and made 11.

    Drank 11 I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    I wasn't on about them, it was about the cops getting grief for not preventing it. Don't mind the bot he seen 1 and made 11.

    Oh right ok sorry ...I just seen the comment an thought what!!..
    The Bot???
    I don't get it!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    It is an Act of Parliament so it is law and enacted. The Guardian report is 2014 the Act was passed in 2015.

    I'm aware of that.
    If you read the top of the link itself it says that not all parts have been passed into law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    Let's not forget that our civil liberties will be infringed if the authorities are allowed access to any online activities that might prevent these atrocities.

    That's happening either way, as people are gradually going to refrain from attending public places of entertainment to avoid placing themselves and their families in danger.

    As a parent, no matter how brave I would like to be in the face of terror, I will avoid putting my children at risk, and this may mean saying "no" to some festivals, concerts...if I have any doubt about safety.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,106 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Jayop wrote: »
    Drank 11 I'd say.

    Wish I had I'd be asleep by now didn't drink enough, lesson learned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    I'm aware of that.
    If you read the top of the link itself it says that not all parts have been passed into law.

    What it says at the top of the link,

    "legislation:There are outstanding changes not yet made by the legislation.gov.uk editorial team to Counter-Terrorism and Security Act 2015. Those changes will be listed when you open the content using the Table of Contents below. Any changes that have already been made by the team appear in the content and are referenced with annotations. Help about Changes to Legislation"

    The Act as far as I can see is enacted and does not need a SI to commence any part as far as I can see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    What it says at the top of the link,

    "legislation:There are outstanding changes not yet made by the legislation.gov.uk editorial team to Counter-Terrorism and Security Act 2015. Those changes will be listed when you open the content using the Table of Contents below. Any changes that have already been made by the team appear in the content and are referenced with annotations. Help about Changes to Legislation"

    The Act as far as I can see is enacted and does not need a SI to commence any part as far as I can see.

    The poster asked if a British citizen could be refused entry or deported.
    I said no.

    You posted a link about temporary refusal which still means that no, a person can not be made stateless or deported from their home country permenently.

    Unless I'm missing something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    The poster asked if a British citizen could be refused entry or deported.
    I said no.

    You posted a link about temporary refusal which still means that no, a person can not be made stateless or deported from their home country permenently.

    Unless I'm missing something?

    http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06820/SN06820.pdf

    "The British Nationality Act 1981 (‘the BNA 1981’) is the basis of current nationality law. The Act came into force on 1 January 1983. It has always included powers to deprive a person of their British nationality, although the nature of these powers has changed over the years due to amendments made by subsequent pieces of legislation.1"

    "In December 2013 the Bureau of Investigative Journalism reported a significant increase in the use of deprivation powers in 2013, in part due to British citizens travelling to fight in Syria.9 The article contended that in the vast majority of cases, the deprivation orders had been issued whilst the individual was overseas, resulting in them being left “stranded abroad” whilst legal appeals against deprivation could take years to resolve."

    The question I had in fact replied to originally was:

    "Quote: Jayop
    If someone isn't a journalist or working for a charity they have no reason to be in the likes of Syria.

    Can a British (or Irish) citizen be denied reentry?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Ignorance of Islam is the big issue.

    White airy fairy types I find don't know anything about it, they equate it to Judaism and Christianity.

    The latter are spread by the word, Islam is spread through force. Research the Prophet Mohamed and the methods he undertook to grow Islam.

    The final and the literal word of God delivered to the Prophet via the Angel Gabriel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,687 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Stabbed in the neck with 12 inch knives = attempted beheading. It was the same with the train station attack a few years ago. Why can't they just say what it is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭rwbug


    2013 he told us what would happen.

    https://twitter.com/Presidency_Sy/status/346700451087015937

    He is secular, he defends Christians from slaughter. He has Sunni, Christian and Shia factions fighting for him. He believes in womens rights. He is fighting ISIS and Al-Qaeda. You would think we would support him.

    But - He supports Russian and Iranian interests instead of American and European interests - so war/chaos and terrorism is an acceptable outcome it seems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Ignorance of Islam is the big issue.

    White airy fairy types I find don't know anything about it, they equate it to Judaism and Christianity.

    The latter are spread by the word, Islam is spread through force. Research the Prophet Mohamed and the methods he undertook to grow Islam.

    The final and the literal word of God delivered to the Prophet via the Angel Gabriel.

    Theres a truth to that, which gets lost in the politics of the whole western left vs right thing.

    What is islam really? Politics and name calling aside, what are this philosophies intentions, and what do the stats show in terms of average muslim beliefs?

    Time to shine the light of truth on this thing.


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