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London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

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  • #602
    Beyondgone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    Any more on the blonde jogger in yoga pants?

    She's showered and is in her nightie. Having cocoa and about to head to bed. Still hot, same as every other day.


  • #603
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    I think you mean tens of thousands of nutjobs in this case. In fact, if I'm not mistaken there are several hundred thousand nutjobs on some of the terrorist watch lists, and that's just in the west alone and not including the ME.

    And where are those figures from?


  • #604
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    But still people saying it. And also still people saying it in other threads about such incidents. I'm not saying whether the opinions are right or wrong, before certain posters latch on and create a thread about this on "that other forum" (I mean, seriously? - also that'll only make sense to a small number of people), but it is the exact same nonsense from both sides all the time.

    Put up some quotes that you find upsetting so we can help you so


  • #605
    shaunr68
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭shaunr68


    muppetshow wrote: »
    Serve him bacon and you will know.

    But you won't.

    There are more than one bunch of ignorant imaginary-friend botherers who don't appreciate the benefits of a bacon butty.


  • #606
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    gandalf wrote: »
    Enough are, along with feed them bacon jibes and other such tripe.

    What I am saying is their Holy Book needs to be gone through line by line and each and every portion of hate speech needs to be removed.

    Because clearly something has gone wrong with the way this religion is being taught.

    If it was just a few nutjobs, fair enough. But its not just a few. Its tens of thousand in the west and in the ME.


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  • #607
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Looks like things have quietened down in London. I just wish they would actually capture and arrest one of these c*nts, so that they could be locked up. I'd imagine they'd have a lot of fun in prison ...


  • #608
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    Put up some quotes that you find upsetting so we can help you so

    Are you going to send me another PM talking about the "other site" and then backtrack?


  • #609
    Tomatoheadfred
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭Tomatoheadfred


    There are 23k Jihadis in the UK alone. Not too far fetched to imagine that there's 100k throughout the west. There are over 10k European based Jihadis currently off headhunting with ISIS in Syria and Iraq.


  • #610
    pangbang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭pangbang


    Jayop wrote: »
    17 likes so far and I'm sure you'll get a few more.

    It's still a pack of absolute lies. I reread the first few pages just to be sure.

    A few people said immediately that they hoped it wasn't terror related but no one denied it.

    Does telling lies and whoring for likes make you feel better about yourself?

    Il tell you what, if you track some of my comments back in this thread, there are definitely people that just emerged to defend this stuff happening.

    Everything from the tired "but theyre actually english hur hur" to simply appearing to call other people racist. They contributed nothing, absolutely NOTHING, no ideas, no sentiment, quite literally a great definition for "defence force".

    Its those nutters that help to cower politicians into doing nothing. Its that mindset that ensures nothing is done for fear of offence (against literal murder!). Those people are, logically, enabling this situation to continue. And that, in my book, and most sane peoples books, I hope, are FAR worse.


  • #611
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    gandalf wrote: »
    And where are those figures from?

    Here ya go.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_Screening_Database

    And here

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List
    The No Fly List is different from the Terrorist Watch List, a much longer list of people said to be suspected of some involvement with terrorism. As of June 2016, the Terrorist Watch List is estimated to contain over 2,484,442 records, consisting of 1,877,133 individual identities.[2][3]

    Still think its just a few nutjobs?


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  • #612
    maizes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭maizes


    garda? have doubled suveillance on incoming ferries


  • #613
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tomatoheadfred wrote: »
    There are 23k Jihadis in the UK alone. Not too far fetched to imagine that there's 100k throughout the west. There are over 10k European based Jihadis currently off headhunting with ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

    Any source for the 23K figure?


  • #614
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    sdanseo wrote: »
    The fact that the whole argument about what to do polarises people to the point of argument EVERY TIME this happens just sways in favour of the perpetrators. They want to terrorise, disrupt and cause fear.

    If the squabbling is bad here on an Irish board imagine what this is like in the UK.

    How on earth is society as a whole meant to combat this madness if there's infighting from the moment it happens? Whatever happened a bit of sensible discussion and debate instead?

    Mods, apologies if this appears to be backseat modding, not intended as such. Just incredibly frustrating watching the meltdown.

    Meltdown? a portion of london has just been put on lock down, throat cuttings, stabbings, people being ran over. Days after kids were blown up at an ariana grande concert in manchester. Do you really expect discourse, especially anonymous, to be all collegiate and calm?


  • #615
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Absolutely agree. The amount of hate speech in many of these religious texts would not be tolerated in modern books. Its up there with Mein Kampf in some cases. Yet, we tolerate it because its supposedly of cultural significance. Well guess what, its not. Time to censor some of these "Holy Books".

    Nah, it's simpler than that.

    You come to the West (or indeed ANY country, INCLUDING Islamic ones), you integrate and adapt to their cultural norms and laws - not expect the natives to accommodate your beliefs and values at the expense of their own, and you respect those people who have allowed/welcomed you into their countries and communities.

    If you don't like that, then head back to where you came from or somewhere more in line with your beliefs.


  • #616
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    What I am saying is their Holy Book needs to be gone through line by line and each and every portion of hate speech needs to be removed.

    Because clearly something has gone wrong with the way this religion is being taught.

    If it was just a few nutjobs, fair enough. But its not just a few. Its tens of thousand in the west and in the ME.

    So where are getting the numbers from then, I see we have dropped down to tens of thousands from hundreds?

    Have you ever read the Bible? **** me on the violence.

    The teaching is an issue and specifically the school's set up by Saudi Arabian money. Realistically if we want to deal with this issue foreign policies need to change and the Saudis need to be dealt with.


  • #617
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,687 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Any source for the 23K figure?

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/huge-scale-of-terror-threat-revealed-uk-home-to-23-000-jihadists-3zvn58mhq


  • #618
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Beyondgone wrote: »
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Looks like things have quietened down in London. I just wish they would actually capture and arrest one of these c*nts, so that they could be locked up. I'd imagine they'd have a lot of fun in prison ...[/QUOTE]

    True. Making the Guards jump through hoops making sure stuff is halal, making sure they get to pray 5 times a day..no pork..no music..no telly..no touching women... much fun..

    Being Muslim sounds like as much fun as the wi-fi going down just after the beer has run out, after the dog has just peed on your laptop.

    Oh, I mean with the other inmates.


  • #619
    pangbang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭pangbang


    sdanseo wrote: »
    The fact that the whole argument about what to do polarises people to the point of argument EVERY TIME this happens just sways in favour of the perpetrators. They want to terrorise, disrupt and cause fear.

    If the squabbling is bad here on an Irish board imagine what this is like in the UK.

    How on earth is society as a whole meant to combat this madness if there's infighting from the moment it happens? Whatever happened a bit of sensible discussion and debate instead?

    Mods, apologies if this appears to be backseat modding, not intended as such. Just incredibly frustrating watching the meltdown.

    The keyword here is "inaction". The temperature is increasing because nothing is being done. And, naturally, debate is gonna become less and less tolerable.

    If somebody actually did something, thered be something to talk about. But as it is, its just people getting frustrated beyond reason due to inaction (and using the word "frustration" when people are dying is severe understatement)


  • #620
    Tomatoheadfred
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭Tomatoheadfred


    Huge scale of terror threat revealed: UK home to 23,000 jihadists | News | The Times & The Sunday Times


  • #621
    delly
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    I've read a few of these threads at this stage, and the sad realisation is that there is no solution, NONE. You can be as left wing as you want, respect religions, personal rights, or you can be right wing, lock them all up, deport them, etc., but the reality is that the horse has bolted and there is no solution. You can change things around and try to increase security, but the creation and impact of this type of incident will remain. It's actually really sad to dwell on that at this stage. Sure there has always been evil in the world, but it is the impact of it edging closer that is really worrying.
    I posted the above last year following one of the French terrorist incidents. It's as relevant then as it is now and is a deeply worrying time to be living in.


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  • #622
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Are you going to send me another PM talking about the "other site" and then backtrack?

    What other site?


  • #623
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/huge-scale-of-terror-threat-revealed-uk-home-to-23-000-jihadists-3zvn58mhq

    I'm amazed there are sites that still exist that require you to provide an email address to read the article.


  • #624
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,414 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Tomatoheadfred wrote: »
    There are 23k Jihadis in the UK alone. Not too far fetched to imagine that there's 100k throughout the west. There are over 10k European based Jihadis currently off headhunting with ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

    With those figures the number of attacks don't add up, you would think there should be an attack almost each day, perhaps they are happy enough playing the Xbox and watching Sky Sports to be bothered doing attacks.


  • #625
    maizes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭maizes


    as the security tightens in uk the suspects will get on a bus to dublin


  • #626
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    What other site?

    I mean, really?

    OK... if we're going there.
    Sorry I didn't get to answer your question. Fact is I don't have a problem at all. Seems you do. I didn't realise til I saw it on that other site so I hope you get well soon.

    So you're denying that you sent me this?

    Controlled explosions being reported on London Bridge.


  • #627
    don corleone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭don corleone


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    homerjay2005 wrote: »
    this is how a thread on boards goes, every-time this happens -

    PC Brigade - "lets wait for the facts before saying who did this."

    Xenophobes - "Bloody Muslims did it!!"

    PC Brigade - "we dont even know its a terrorist attack, stop being racist"

    Xenophobes - "Course it was a bloody terror attack, my assumptions are always correct"

    PC Brigade - "this isnt about religion."

    Xenophobes - "Ban Islam! They are all potential mass murderers!"

    Intelligence - "attackers were known to police and on a watch list".

    Xenophones - "

    PC Brigade - "this is all the fault of Tony Blair."

    PC brigade - "you cant arrest people just because there are on a list."

    PC Brigade - "the attacker was a british citizen, he was acting alone."

    PC Brigade - "the Ira were just as bad."

    PC Brigade - "you cant stop this happening."

    PC Brigade - "civil liberties is more important than a safe world bla bla bla."

    *Unconfirmed Reports of an Incident*

    Non-PC Brigade - "Bloody Muslims did it!! It's always the Muslims. Don't care what anyone says! It was the Muslims!"

    Non-PC Brigade - "Of course it was terrorism, I don't need to wait for facts because my assumptions are always correct (and if they're wrong I'll unfollow the thread"

    Non-PC Brigade - "Unconfirmed reports of another 7 various incidents (most of which are always false)"

    Non-PC Brigade - "This is all the fault of the Qu'ran, Merkel, Islam and bloody politically correct types who refuse to call for the ban on an entire religion (I'll just ignore the 1 billion+ peaceful Muslims or drag in how they mis-treat women)"

    Non-PC Brigade - "Lock them all up!! All of them! Internment! Who cares if they have ever or will ever commit a crime (has never worked anywhere but shur....)"

    Non-PC Brigade - "Even if it was a British Citizen let's ban all Muslim immigration!! (because I have no capacity to consider that radicalization occurs online and banning immigration doesn't stop it)"

    Non-PC Brigade - "FFS the IRA had nothing to do with religion! (yeah they only really targeted Protestants but irrelevant because they didn't chant Jesus is Great)"

    Non-PC Brigade - "You can stop this just lock them all up, ban the religion!! (lol)"

    Non-PC Brigade - "I'm fine with living in a country like North Korea where you have no rights if it stops these attacks!! (because I refuse to acknowledge the *actual* scale of the problem in the UK is statistically low and I'd rather live in a country without these terrible Muslims)"
    Was actually a pretty good post until this part.
    The catholic - protestant angle to the troubles in the north was never really central to the conflict, more of a coincidence and probably had more influence in the civil rights movement which although connected to the troubles, was a seperate issue. The religious aspect was a sideshow generated mainly by the media and something 'supporters' of each side used to try insult the other. Linking the violent conflict in Northern Ireland to religion is factually wrong, linking it to sectarianism in the north would be more accurate. Neither side in the troubles had religion on their agenda.


  • #628
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I mean, really?

    OK... if we're going there.



    So you're denying that you sent me this?

    I have no idea what you are talking about or who you are?


  • #629
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Can we ban the use of the term 'pc brigade'
    Beyond cringe


  • #630
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,687 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I'm amazed there are sites that still exist that require you to provide an email address to read the article.

    Well its also been picked up by breitbart and other such sites but they get written off immediately as fake news on here. Strangely enough the rest of the media has been silent on it. It's a pretty shocking figure tbh


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  • #631
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    delly wrote: »
    I posted the above last year following one of the French terrorist incidents. It's as relevant then as it is now and is a deeply worrying time to be living in.

    I get what your saying but I don't think its helpful. As a society we can't just throw our hands up at this.


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