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ThisRegard · 03-06-2017 08:22AM

Weather is a bit pissy by the looks of it.

pickarooney · 03-06-2017 08:27AM

swiwi_ wrote: »

He came back, but has re-signed with Sarries (?). He's back north at the end of Super season in any case. He has all the physical attributes, but tends to be lazy and hot-headed which has stopped him going too far with Australia.

For a lazy bloke he's working nearly 12 months of the year

bilston · 03-06-2017 08:30AM

Basil3 wrote: »

I never knew the importance of lineout calls until I lived in Ireland. Lived in ignorant bliss for far too long.

It came to prominence amongst one or two posters a year or two ago (well one poster in particular I think) who were determined to keep Henderson out of the Ireland team, ot more likely to keep their preferred player in the side...at least that's what it felt like at the time...I'd never heard it being such a big deal until then either.

bilston · 03-06-2017 08:34AM

Haha the Lions players don't know if the war dance is over or not.

irishman86 · 03-06-2017 09:06AM

Lions second all over the place

Professor Moriarty · 03-06-2017 09:25AM

Faletau the star for the Lions. Sexton not doing himself any favours.

Clegg · 03-06-2017 10:48AM

The Blues have been the worst of the NZ super rugby sides over the last few years. If the Lions can't beat them on Wednesday we're in bother.

Professor Moriarty · 03-06-2017 11:29AM

Looked like a bunch of a fellas who met in a club Saturday night and decided to play game in the morning. Might have been complacency and/or unfamiliarity. Sexton has a huge amount of ground to make up. Faletau, Moriarty and Te'o the best of a bad lot.

sydthebeat · 03-06-2017 04:09PM

3 points shaved off all the super rugby teams handicaps after todays game

razorblunt · 03-06-2017 04:39PM

Jeez Laidlaw is awful, pondering, stepping and poor passes.
Hogg trying too hard individually too, the exact thing they tell them not to do in these games.

Erik Shin · 03-06-2017 06:28PM

No real indicator of anything bar the general viewing public's feelings..but Sky have a vote on their site for the most influential player of the game, Faletau is top of the list while Sexton and Henderson are 21st and 22nd respectively.

Buer · 04-06-2017 07:48AM

sydthebeat wrote:

3 points shaved off all the super rugby teams handicaps after todays game

Have my 5 match accumulator set in stone a month ago!

irishman86 · 04-06-2017 11:58AM

I feel this game doesnt really affect the standing in Gats eyes. Most would still have jet lag.

radharc · 04-06-2017 12:02PM

Buer wrote: »

Have my 5 match accumulator set in stone a month ago!

How could you do a 5 match accumulator?

Erik Shin · 04-06-2017 12:03PM

irishman86 wrote: »

I feel this game doesnt really affect the standing in Gats eyes. Most would still have jet lag.

I said it on the match thread... nobody played themselves into the test team...but a few have played their way off I think

pickarooney · 04-06-2017 12:45PM

I think this '3 days off the plane' mantra is a load of rubbish. The super rugby teams are flying back and forth across the Indian/Pacific ocean every couple of weeks and still able to perform at high level.

Yeah_Right · 04-06-2017 01:07PM

pickarooney wrote: »

I think this '3 days off the plane' mantra is a load of rubbish. The super rugby teams are flying back and forth across the Indian/Pacific ocean every couple of weeks and still able to perform at high level.

I agree. It's not like they're stuck in economy class, struggling to sleep and eating crappy airline food. They travel in luxury and have doctors ensuring they're getting all the right nutrients, vitamins etc.

The Lost Sheep · 04-06-2017 01:09PM

pickarooney wrote:

I think this '3 days off the plane' mantra is a load of rubbish. The super rugby teams are flying back and forth across the Indian/Pacific ocean every couple of weeks and still able to perform at high level.

Slight. Only slight difference is super rugby teams are not scratch teams playing g together in every aspect for the first time together so 3 days off the plane is far from rubbish.

pickarooney · 04-06-2017 01:31PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Slight. Only slight difference is super rugby teams are not scratch teams playing g together in every aspect for the first time together so 3 days off the plane is far from rubbish.

It's two different arguments.
Never playing together and
Jet lag

The first is arguably even more relevant to the NZ baabaas.

bilston · 04-06-2017 03:38PM

pickarooney wrote: »

I think this '3 days off the plane' mantra is a load of rubbish. The super rugby teams are flying back and forth across the Indian/Pacific ocean every couple of weeks and still able to perform at high level.

The Lions is a scratch side. The Super Rugby sides train together 6 months a year. The issue yesterday for me is that the Lions players lack connectivity with each other. Mistimed passes, players over running and yes the jet lag etc.

The Lions will improve, they'll need to.

molloyjh · 04-06-2017 04:01PM

pickarooney wrote: »

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Slight. Only slight difference is super rugby teams are not scratch teams playing g together in every aspect for the first time together so 3 days off the plane is far from rubbish.

It's two different arguments.
Never playing together and
Jet lag

The first is arguably even more relevant to the NZ baabaas.

They may be different arguments, but they aren't 2 arguments living in separate vacuums. They exist together. If you're playing together all season then you don't need the same level of training time together as you do if you've never played together before. If you're time together is limited and/or affected by jet lag it'll have a far greater impact on a team unfamiliar with each other than one very familiar with each other.

swiwi_ · 04-06-2017 07:16PM

http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/06/05/picking-bones-lions-disappointment/

irishman86 · 04-06-2017 07:59PM

Erik Shin wrote: »

I said it on the match thread... nobody played themselves into the test team...but a few have played their way off I think

Whom may I ask? I dont think its the case besides well Laidlaw who I thought was very poor

pickarooney · 04-06-2017 08:04PM

Laidlaw and Henderson were never near the test side. Hogg and Sexton did themselves no favours but it's all very early.

Squidgy Black · 04-06-2017 08:30PM

There's still another 5 games and 3 weeks to go before the first test. That's an awful lot of rugby, and plenty of time for anyone to redeem their performances yesterday.

No decisions have been made on a test squad at this stage.

Buer · 04-06-2017 08:33PM

Only guys who played themselves off the team weren't likely to be in the 23 anyway i.e. Laidlaw, Joseph. Anyone that went out there as a strong contender for the test team has hurt their chances but by no means played themselves off.

pickarooney · 05-06-2017 06:28AM

Team to play the Blues:

McGrath, Owens, Cole
Lawes, Itoje
Haskell, Tipuric
Stander
Webb, Biggar
Daly, Henshaw, Payne, Nowell
Halfpenny

Marler, Best, Sinckler, Henderson, POM, Laidlaw, Sexton, Williams

bilston · 05-06-2017 07:38AM

pickarooney wrote: »

Team to play the Blues:

McGrath, Owens, Cole
Lawes, Itoje
Haskell, Tipuric
Stander
Webb, Biggar
Daly, Henshaw, Payne, Nowell
Halfpenny

Marler, Best, Sinckler, Henderson, POM, Laidlaw, Sexton, Williams

So how many coaches is that now who have concluded that Payne is a 13?

bilston · 05-06-2017 08:02AM

This suggests Murray and Farrell will start together on Saturday which may be significant.

Buer · 05-06-2017 08:35AM

bilston wrote:

This suggests Murray and Farrell will start together on Saturday which may be significant.

Yup. I'd say the Crusaders game will give a strong insight into what is being considered for the test match now.

Jonathan Davies, Farrell, North, Kruis, Furlong, Murray, Vunipola, George all looking likely starters.

Will also be interesting to see if SOB is involved or still injured.

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