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was there a riot of 250 people in henry street in dublin on dec 26th??

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  • #152
    Ineedaname
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    optogirl wrote: »
    I wouldn't be even slightly surprised to hear that that video was fake & made up by Leo @ the 'Liberal'

    Well he has form....


  • #153
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Days after so why on earth is it been brought up now nearly 6 months later.

    It was brought up at the time and debated. Not sure why it's being brought up again now. On its own and used as indisputable evidence.


  • #154
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    optogirl wrote: »
    I wouldn't be even slightly surprised to hear that that video was fake & made up by Leo @ the 'Liberal'

    Well the whole thing sounded very scripted in fairness.


  • #155
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Peregrine wrote: »
    Did you even read the first page? It was reported reported in the Irish Times, Irish Independent and many others and the video was also mentioned on the first page. With eyewitness accounts mostly saying nothing major happened. The only conflicting eyewitness account is that couple (whose video is old as the story by the way). There is no evidence of a mass riot, no CCTV footage, no phone camera footage, and most eyewitnesses say nothing serious happened.

    You just read what you what to read and believe what you want to believe. You complain about bias but only believe a single source (whose reputation has been destroyed with actual evidence and is currently in the High Court) which supports your agenda and tell everybody else they're biased.

    It's actually comical.

    Ah you do see on the page where it says updated??
    I saw the video today on youtube & remembered this thread & people debating whether it happened or not. So after all the abuse the Liberal got about it, it turns out something did happen. The Irish Times: A security man said about 80 to 100 people.
    Maybe you just read & believe what you want to believe because you say I only believe a single source but in the paragraph before you say it was reported by other papers. So whether you believe the Liberal or not other papers reported it later but I guess they got it wrong too


  • #156
    Help!!!!
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    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Days after so why on earth is it been brought up now nearly 6 months later.

    Because I felt like it


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  • #157
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,876 ✭✭✭SteM


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Because I felt like it

    Spreading fake news....


  • #158
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    SteM wrote: »
    Spreading fake news....

    Whys it fake if the other newspapers reported it? Is it just because you dont believe it?


  • #159
    optogirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Ah you do see on the page where it says updated??
    I saw the video today on youtube & remembered this thread & people debating whether it happened or not. So after all the abuse the Liberal got about it, it turns out something did happen. The Irish Times: A security man said about 80 to 100 people.
    Maybe you just read & believe what you want to believe because you say I only believe a single source but in the paragraph before you say it was reported by other papers. So whether you believe the Liberal or not other papers reported it later but I guess they got it wrong too

    From the Irish Times

    'Gardaí confirmed there was an incident, but not a large-scale riot as described on the website. “No one had been injured and there was no evidence of any weapons involved,” a Garda spokesman said.
    The spokesman told The Irish Times last week three boys and a girl were held in connection with public order offences in the Henry Street area and released a short time afterwards on St Stephen’s Day.
    A staff member at a shop on Henry Street said the incidents started at about 5pm. He said it was tense at the beginning, but “they were only kids who ran up and down the street and made noise. We didn’t have to close.”


  • #160
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Ah you do see on the page where it says updated??
    I saw the video today on youtube & remembered this thread & people debating whether it happened or not. So after all the abuse the Liberal got about it, it turns out something did happen. The Irish Times: A security man said about 80 to 100 people.
    Maybe you just read & believe what you want to believe because you say I only believe a single source but in the paragraph before you say it was reported by other papers. So whether you believe the Liberal or not other papers reported it later but I guess they got it wrong too

    What page was updated? If you're talking about the Irish Times article then I quoted it myself at the time.

    All the papers said something happened. It's not a conspiracy where it was rewritten afterwards. This was all reported at the time with differing eyewitness accounts but no eyewitness could confirm the riot claim. Yes, 80 to 100 people. 80 to 100 people what though?
    "about 80 to 100 [people] teamed up and ran up and down the middle of Henry Street to where there was an unmarked Garda car."
    That's very different from TheLiberal.ie's version of 200 people rioting on Henry Street. Very different indeed.


  • #161
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Even if worst case scenario did occur whats this supposed to mean? Whats supposed to happen? Is this just something to hold over all black people now if it did occur?


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  • #162
    Help!!!!
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    Peregrine wrote: »
    What page was updated? If you're talking about the Irish Times article then I quoted it myself at the time.

    All the papers said something happened. It's not a conspiracy where it was rewritten afterwards. This was all reported at the time with differing eyewitness accounts but no eyewitness could confirm the riot claim. Yes, 80 to 100 people. 80 to 100 people what though?


    That's very different from TheLiberal.ie's version of 200 people rioting on Henry Street. Very different indeed.

    The OP link was updated from what was being reported the last time I saw this thread.


  • #163
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,876 ✭✭✭SteM


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Whys it fake if the other newspapers reported it? Is it just because you dont believe it?

    What other newspaper reported a riot of 250 people on December 26th?


  • #164
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    SteM wrote: »
    What other newspaper reported a riot of 250 people on December 26th?

    Other newspapers reported 80-100 people. So something did happen so its not like they pulled it out their a$$. Look I dont know anything about the Liberal I saw the video of the family today & remembered this thread, thought I'd post it but didnt think it was gonna kick up a storm


  • #165
    Peregrine
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    Help!!!! wrote: »
    The OP link was updated from what was being reported the last time I saw this thread.

    TheLiberal.ie reported it on the 5th. Irish Times reported it the day after with a much more cautious tone and eyewitness accounts.

    A few days later, TheLiberal.ie found an eyewitness that disagrees with all the other eyewitnesses and agrees with their article and included it in an update.

    The whole thing was then discussed here and across the internet.


  • #166
    Kimbot
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    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Other newspapers reported 80-100 people. So something did happen so its not like they pulled it out their a$$. Look I dont know anything about the Liberal I saw the video of the family today & remembered this thread, thought I'd post it but didnt think it was gonna kick up a storm

    Yeah the video was published 6 months ago and discussed numerous times on this thread already if you actually went to the effort of reading through some of it.

    Everyone agrees that something happened but not to the extent of a full scale riot.


  • #167
    Help!!!!
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    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Yeah the video was published 6 months ago and discussed numerous times on this thread already if you actually went to the effort of reading through some of it.

    Everyone agrees that something happened but not to the extent of a full scale riot.

    OK my bad:D


  • #168
    B_Wayne
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    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Other newspapers reported 80-100 people. So something did happen so its not like they pulled it out their a$$. Look I dont know anything about the Liberal I saw the video of the family today & remembered this thread, thought I'd post it but didnt think it was gonna kick up a storm
    I call bull**** on the video. One individual responded to their Facebook thread who claimed to have witnessed the event. The user was literally revealed as a puppet account of the site's owner months later... So yep, they have a tendency of manufacturing, plagiarising and bigging the site up. So nope, not in the slightest bit credible.


  • #169
    ThisRegard
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    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Well it looks like the story was true afterall, this American family was caught up in it. Why was none of it reported by the main media?? I wonder!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBQZPAsZf6o

    It was reported, and a bit of investigation yourself into who that 'random' couple are might be required.


  • #170
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    Friend of mine works for a reputable Irish paper, she made multiple attempts to get that family's side of the story and they totally ignored all of them. Goddamn mainstream media suppressing the story :mad:


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