Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

unkel · 31-05-2017 06:38PM

Fermi wrote: »

So, in theory if I find a dealer who is "flexible" in this area, I might do the same... But not sure if they would like that.

Pretty much. They "seem" to be bound by the rules from Hyundai Ireland who seem to heavily sponsor the scrappage. But these rules don't seem to be enforced. I'm afraid that apart from the scrappage, there's not an awful room for negotiation. Scrappage is by far your best bet. Dealers react quite differently when you tell them about your scrappage car. Some tell you about conditions, insist on seeing, even inspecting the vehicle. Some don't seem to care at all.

If you want to maximise your savings, plan your strategy well, contact all Hyundai dealers in Ireland. And then it's game on

Soarer · 31-05-2017 08:23PM

Fermi wrote: »

So, in theory if I find a dealer who is "flexible" in this area, I might do the same... But not sure if they would like that.
On the other hand, if they can give 4k discount for car worth nothing, they also should be able to give me some good discount anyway...

Just go buy the cheapest tested car on DoneDeal today or tomorrow. Probably ?100. Then ask the question when you're ready to buy.
If they're willing to let you walk away with ?25k in your pocket because you're a few months short of ownership, bigger fool them.

man_no_plan · 31-05-2017 08:23PM

unkel wrote: »

Pretty much. They "seem" to be bound by the rules from Hyundai Ireland who seem to heavily sponsor the scrappage. But these rules don't seem to be enforced. I'm afraid that apart from the scrappage, there's not an awful room for negotiation. Scrappage is by far your best bet. Dealers react quite differently when you tell them about your scrappage car. Some tell you about conditions, insist on seeing, even inspecting the vehicle. Some don't seem to care at all.

If you want to maximise your savings, plan your strategy well, contact all Hyundai dealers in Ireland. And then it's game on

Some of them don't want to sell cars I think. Others are very open to talking.

unkel · 31-05-2017 11:54PM

Yep I found the same thing. I sent out a round of emails to all Hyundai dealers at 9AM (the day after my test drive) with the intention of buying the car that same day. Some dealers had not even got back to me before end of business. Unbelievable stuff! I made it very clear that I was buying that day and that I was willing to pay a large deposit over the phone also that day.

Luckily for me, there were a good few dealers that were playing ball. Some seriously old skool waffling types that didn't seem to understand that I was only interested in doing a good deal based on straight money talk. But in fairness also some no-nonsense straight talkers that were keen on my business. I pitched them against each other and to my delight the best offer was from a Dublin area dealer, who was the straightest salesman of them all.

Fermi · 01-06-2017 10:05AM

unkel wrote: »

Yep I found the same thing. I sent out a round of emails to all Hyundai dealers at 9AM (the day after my test drive) with the intention of buying the car that same day. Some dealers had not even got back to me before end of business. Unbelievable stuff! I made it very clear that I was buying that day and that I was willing to pay a large deposit over the phone also that day.

Luckily for me, there were a good few dealers that were playing ball. Some seriously old skool waffling types that didn't seem to understand that I was only interested in doing a good deal based on straight money talk. But in fairness also some no-nonsense straight talkers that were keen on my business. I pitched them against each other and to my delight the best offer was from a Dublin area dealer, who was the straightest salesman of them all.

I have emailed them all yesterday evening, to all 27 contact email addresses I found on Hyundai website. First of them responded in 6 minutes, and my inbox this morning is full of emails. Some of them even have the Blue version on stock so happy days. It also seems it is not so bad with the lead time - they all quote a delivery in July.

Regarding the scrappage, there is one or two guy who mentioned they only need the registration certificate on my name to do the 4k discount, but some of them say I need to own the car for 6 or 9 months.

So the game is really on now. I will keep you guys updated.

Soarer · 01-06-2017 10:12AM

Fermi wrote: »

I have emailed them all yesterday evening, to all 27 contact email addresses I found on Hyundai website. First of them responded in 6 minutes, and my inbox this morning is full of emails. Some of them even have the Blue version on stock so happy days. It also seems it is not so bad with the lead time - they all quote a delivery in July.

Regarding the scrappage, there is one or two guy who mentioned they only need the registration certificate on my name to do the 4k discount, but some of them say I need to own the car for 6 or 9 months.

So the game is really on now. I will keep you guys updated.

Well they're you're starting point. Go buy a cheap car!

unkel · 01-06-2017 11:03AM

Enjoy the game and may the end result be a very good deal on your new Ioniq :cool:

Blue is a very nice colour on them imho

Soarer · 01-06-2017 11:26AM

unkel wrote: »

Enjoy the game and may the end result be a very good deal on your new Ioniq :cool:

Blue is a very nice colour on them imho

Is it always the same grey/silver "grille" at the front?

KCross · 01-06-2017 11:36AM

Soarer wrote: »

Is it always the same grey/silver "grille" at the front?

It seems to be

Its like the frog eyes on the Leaf... they are trying to ruin a good car.

How anyone at the design stages didn't say something about the grill is beyond me!

ELM327 · 01-06-2017 11:38AM

I think the grille looks good on the black colored ones

Soarer · 01-06-2017 11:41AM

Anybody any good at Photoshop? I wonder what it would look like if it was body-coloured.

irishgrover · 01-06-2017 11:49AM

Lad (and Ladies),
I'm guessing that this has probably been answered before but I'v been struggling to find an accurate answer. Would any owner be able to give me estimates on range when on a motorway traveling at max speeds (ie 120 kph). I'm really really considering an Ioniq. My current commute is 120 KM round trip, 90% is motorway traveling @ 120 kmh, the other 10% is back roads traveling at 60-80kph. I'm trying to figure out what realistic real world range I'll get on my commute without changing my driving habits.
thanks in advance

Soarer · 01-06-2017 12:33PM

Think Unkel said you get around 140kms @ 120km/h. You'd probably add another 15-20kms of range if you dropped your speed by 10km/h. Either way, the Ioniq would cover your needs. You'd probably be the ideal candidate actually.

If you can wait a few months, the new Leaf (with a proposed 40kWh usable battery) is due to be released around September.

unkel · 01-06-2017 01:06PM

I'd say you will get 160-170km easily at 120km/h (car has been tested to do 220km at 110km/h, so I'm being conservative here)

So what does it matter if your commute is 120km return? Drive like a maniac in the middle of winter and you will not run out. Charge up at home. Rinse & repeat the next day

macnab · 01-06-2017 01:12PM

Soarer wrote: »

Anybody any good at Photoshop? I wonder what it would look like if it was body-coloured.

Just a quick 5 minute mock up, but it gives an idea of what a colour coded grill would look like

unkel · 01-06-2017 01:29PM

You can get the "Black Pack", which looks a lot better than the standard grey in particular on the white, blue, silver and black cars. But why Hyundai didn't supply all cars with the grille in the same colour as the body is beyond me. Really the only ugly feature of the car imho.

positron · 01-06-2017 01:49PM

Ioniq is a bit strange in how it looks. When I saw Ioniq in the showroom, I think it looked way better in flesh than in these photos. Yet it doesn't look that impressive when you see it in M50 amongst other bigger cars for some reason. For the next iteration, I hope they fix the bumper to a no-grill design like Tesla, and I hope they make it tiny bit longer / wider or do an estate version similar to i40 estate.

I love the car. Might buy if the other half can make up her mind between 5 or 7 seats.

grogi · 01-06-2017 01:51PM

unkel wrote: »

You can get the "Black Pack", which looks a lot better than the standard grey in particular on the white, blue, silver and black cars. But why Hyundai didn't supply all cars with the grille in the same colour as the body is beyond me. Really the only ugly feature of the car imho.

I don't actually like the Tesla style that much, the void at the front looks weird...

The black pack on Ioniq is very nice IMHO. How much works is it to take the grill away?

Soarer · 01-06-2017 01:52PM

macnab wrote: »

Just a quick 5 minute mock up, but it gives an idea of what a colour coded grill would look like

That really doesn't look bad, and certainly looks better than the grey.

Would love to know who signed off on that.

grogi · 01-06-2017 01:55PM

Soarer wrote: »

That really doesn't look bad, and certainly looks better than the grey.

Would love to know who signed off on that.

When the Ioniq hybrids start to pop up in breakers, the regular front grills will be in demand I guess.

unkel · 01-06-2017 02:27PM

I doubt it grogi. It looks even worse imho and it won't be good for the coefficient of drag at all, making range (at motorway speeds) worse

And I don't know what's involved in taking off the grille. Can't be that bad surely?

man_no_plan · 01-06-2017 03:46PM

unkel wrote: »

I doubt it grogi. It looks even worse imho and it won't be good for the coefficient of drag at all, making range (at motorway speeds) worse

And I don't know what's involved in taking off the grille. Can't be that bad surely?

I'm sure it can be taken off and sprayed? It looks better in the flesh. I gave seen blue, black , silver and white white is nicest imo

Jenfer · 03-06-2017 07:29PM

Following this thread with interest the last while. I know little to nothing about electric cars but what I have read here. I was wondering if you could advise me of the suitability of the Ioniq for the travelling I do. The most I would do in a given week would be mainly local runs less than 10kms a 2-4 times a day. I don't really travel more than 30k return from home very often apart from the annual family holiday Dublin-Cork, Dublin-Mayo. Is the insurance cost similar to a regular car? Would the maintenance/service costs be similar? Finally, what is the boot space like in it for buggy plus a weekly food shop. From reading here I think the Ioniq would suit our family and would love to do my bit for the environment! The other car I was looking at is the hybrid Kia Niro. Thanks in advance for any replies.

Mope · 03-06-2017 10:37PM

I can only imagine how many more families like yours arr out there, who's round trip a day barely reaches 100km.
You are ideal EV person/family. Even 24kw Leaf would suffice your needs.

Insurance is cheaper atm
Running costs are close to zero.

Soarer · 03-06-2017 10:48PM

Like mope said, a 24kWh Leaf would suit you needs pretty much perfectly.

And you wouldn't have to buy new either. Any Leaf from 132 on would do.

Best of luck.

Jenfer · 03-06-2017 11:49PM

Thanks for the advice, I do so little mileage daily that the range of an EV wouldn't really be an issue for me. Will definatey look into the leaf too. I am hoping to change my car in January so will keep an eye on this forum til then. I liked the look of the Kia Niro too but the low running costs of the EV is swinging it really.

Soarer · 03-06-2017 11:59PM

Well unless you already have a car loan or whatever, a lot of the ev savings would be eroded by the loan repayments.

Water John · 04-06-2017 10:45AM

A second hand EV, certainly seems to be the ticket for you.

woppers · 04-06-2017 05:48PM

thelikelylad wrote: »

1. Mope - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
2. unkel - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
3. liamog - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
4. Fiery mutant - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171 WH
5. thelikelylad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171C

Just adding myself onto the list

I haven't been online for a couple of weeks. I picked it up last Wednesday.

1. Mope - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
2. unkel - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
3. liamog - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
4. Fiery mutant - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171 WH
5. thelikelylad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171C
6. woppers - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171 WX

Mope · 04-06-2017 05:54PM

Well? Have you left the car since?

Kidding, well wear!

Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

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