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June 2017 Boards weather forecast contest

  • 29-05-2017 7:52am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭


    1. Predict the IMT, mean temperature at five locations in Ireland (Claremorris, Casement, Mullingar, Oak Park, Shannon) for June, 2017. The 1981-2010 "normal" value is 13.6 deg C.

    2. Predict the MAX temperature at any regularly reporting Met-E station as reported in the Monthly Summary (and daily in the "yesterday's weather" section of their website), during June.

    3. Predict the MIN temperature during June (see above for overview).

    4. Predict the PRC (rainfall at this time of year) as a percentage of normal values (1981-2010) at eleven locations, namely Ballyhaise, Cork, Malin Head, Belmullet, Cork, Johnstown Castle, and the five locations for the IMT (section 1 above), during June.

    5. Predict the SUN (sunshine) as a percentage of normal values (1981-2010) at six locations, Belmullet, Casement, Dublin, Shannon, Cork and Valentia, during June.

    6. Bonus question. What will be the heaviest one-day (calendar day) rainfall at any station that regularly reports in the daily weather section of the Met-E website, as confirmed in the Monthly Summary. Give the answer in mm with one decimal place (e.g. 20.5) and also, give a location (no date for the contest points). Points will be 7/10 for amount, 3/10 for location based on 3 points for a correct answer, 2 points if your answer happens to match second highest amount of the month (can be same date) and 1 point for third place. A maximum of 2 superbonus points are available for the winning guess(es) if you have 7+3, and 1 superbonus point if it's 6+3 or 7+2.

    Enter by 0300h Thursday, June 1st, without penalty, after which it's a 1 point deduction for any portion of 3 hours, to the end of Friday June 2nd, and as this contest was posted a bit late, I will extend that to 0300h Saturday 3rd on this occasion (by then you would be losing 16 points), then after that time the penalties increase to 1 point per hour late.

    Good luck!

    Here's mine (partly to help with the template)

    M.T. Cranium ____ 14.5 _ 28.0 _ 2.0 _ 100 _ 115 __ 30.5 Dunsany


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    sryanbruen ____ 14.2 _ 29.0 _ 3.0 _ 92 _ 120 __ 28.2 Valentia Observatory


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    pauldry____ 14.0 _ 25.2 _ 3.2 _ 135 _ 100__ 49.9 Cork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Bsal ____ 14.1 _ 27.4 _ 3.5 _ 95 _ 104 __ 29.1 Mullingar


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭sunflower3


    sunflower3 ____ 14.1 _ 27.2 _ 3.8 _ 85 _ 110 __ 36.5 Valentia Observatory


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    sdanseo ___ 15.0 _ 29.6 _ 3.4 _ 89 _ 121 _ 41.0 Casement


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    mickger844posts____ 14.0 _ 26.6 _ 3.8 _ 95 _ 105__ 32.9 Valentia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    Dacogawa ____ 14.2 _ 26.2 _ 3.1 _ 129 _ 105 __ 39.5 Valentia


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    DOCARCH ____ 13.3 _ 25.7 _ 3.6 _ 138 _ 88 __ 24.3 Casement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭rameire


    Rameire ____ 14.5 _ 28.1 _ 2.9 _ 109 _ 108 __ 25.5 Belmullet

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭John mac


    john mac ____ 13.9 _ 28.9_ 1.8 _ 106 _ 104 __ 45.2 newport


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Rikand ___ 14.5 ___ 28.0 ___ 3.0 ___ 90 ___ 120 ___ 30.0 Cork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭mrskinner


    Skinner
    > 14.5......25.7.....2.7......101......97......37.3 Valentia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    Lumi ____ 14.3 _ 28.1 _ 3.7 _ 90 _ 100 __ 41.0 Sherkin Island


  • Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭waterways


    waterways ____ 13.9 _ 29.0 _ 2.2_ 101 _ 124 __ 40.5 Malin Head (not Cork)


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Tae laidir ____ 14.1 _ 26.8 _ 2.5 _ 145 _ 95 __ 38.0 Valentia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Jpmarn ____ 13.4 _ 26.0 _ 1.5 _ 115 _ 95 __ 35 Claremorris


  • Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭dasa29


    dasa29____ 13.5 _ 27.0 _ 3.0 _ 90 _ 110__ 30.0 Valentia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    Joe Public ____ 14.3 _ 24.9 _ 1.9 _ 140 _ 90 __ 50.6 Valentia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭kindredspirit


    Kindred Spirit ___14.2 ___ 27 ___ 3.0 ___ 110 ___ 110 ___40.0 Valentia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭200motels


    200motels 14.0 _ 27.0 _ 4.0 _ 109 _ 101 __ 26.2 Valentia Observatory


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Table of Forecasts for June 2017


    FORECASTER _______ IMT _ MAX _ MIN _ PRC _ SUN ___ Max rainfall loc'n


    sdanseo ____________15.0 _ 29.6 _ 3.4 _ 089 _ 121 ___ 41.0 Casement
    Rameire ____________14.5 _ 28.1 _ 2.9 _ 109 _ 108 ___ 25.5 Belmullet
    Rikand _____________14.5 _ 28.0 _ 3.0 _ 090 _ 120 ___ 30.0 Cork
    M.T. Cranium ________14.5 _ 28.0 _ 2.0 _ 100 _ 115 ___ 30.5 Dunsany
    MrSkinner __________ 14.5 _ 25.7 _ 2.7 _ 101 _ 097 ___ 37.3 Valentia
    Lumi ______________ 14.3 _ 28.1 _ 3.7 _ 090 _ 100 ___ 41.0 Sherkin Island
    Joe Public ___ (-2) ___ 14.3 _ 24.9 _ 1.9 _ 140 _ 090 ___ 50.6 Valentia
    sryanbruen _________ 14.2 _ 29.0 _ 3.0 _ 092 _ 120 ___ 28.2 Valentia
    Kindred Spirit _ (-2) __ 14.2 _ 27.0 _ 3.0 _ 110 _ 110 ___ 40.0 Valentia.
    Dacogawa __________ 14.2 _ 26.2 _ 3.1 _ 129 _ 105 ___ 39.5 Valentia
    Bsal _______________ 14.1 _ 27.4 _ 3.5 _ 095 _ 104 ___ 29.1 Mullingar

    Con Sensus _________ 14.1 _ 27.0 _ 3.0 _ 101 _ 105 ___ 36.5 Valentia

    sunflower3 __________14.1 _ 27.2 _ 3.8 _ 085 _ 110 ___ 36.5 Valentia
    Tae laidir ___________ 14.1 _ 26.8 _ 2.5 _ 145 _ 095 ___ 38.0 Valentia
    200motels ___ (-7) ___14.0 _ 27.0 _ 4.0 _ 109 _ 101 ___ 26.2 Valentia
    mickger844posts _____14.0 _ 26.6 _ 3.8 _ 095 _ 105 ___ 32.9 Valentia
    pauldry ____________ 14.0 _ 25.2 _ 3.2 _ 135 _ 100 ___ 49.9 Cork
    waterways __________ 13.9 _ 29.0 _ 2.2 _ 101 _ 124 ___ 40.5 Malin Head
    john mac ___________ 13.9 _ 28.9 _ 1.8 _ 106 _ 104 ___ 45.2 Newport

    NormaL ____________ 13.6 _ 26.5 _ 1.5 _ 100 _ 100 ___ 40.0 (see note)

    dasa29_____________ 13.5 _ 27.0 _ 3.0 _ 090 _ 110 ___ 30.0 Valentia
    Jpmarn _____________13.4 _ 26.0 _ 1.5 _ 115 _ 095 ___ 35.0 Claremorris
    DOCARCH __________ 13.3 _ 25.7 _ 3.6 _ 138 _ 088 ___ 24.3 Casement

    ___________________________________________________________

    21 forecasts, Con Sensus is median (11th ranked forecasts).

    The group consensus seems to be warmer and sunnier than average but with near normal amounts of rain. As to the heaviest of the month, almost half (10) go for Valentia, and for the other eleven, the distribution is Casement 2, Cork 2, Belmullet, Claremorris, Dunsany, Malin Head, Mullingar, Newport and Sherkin Island.

    For NormaL, the location of the heaviest rain will score three points if it's Valentia, Cork, Sherkin or Casement, Dunsany, Ballyhaise. It will score two points if it's anywhere else except Johnstown Castle, Oak Park, Moore Park, Shannon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    valentia leads on day one 12mm or something

    next monday looks a contender for wettest day of June

    poss 25mm or more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Hopefully the Cork Snow Shield reverses its polarity for this month and becomes the Cork Rain Magnet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I regret going for a dry June now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Seems like multiple days of rainfall bonus potential in first half of June. Will prob dry out 2nd half n then temperature bonus IMO


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Knock Airport 20.1mm yesterday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Rainfall yesterday:
    30.2 Johnstown Castle (No selection!)
    18.5 Roches Point


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Out of interest, Rainfall totals for 4th & 5th June:
    Johnstown Castle 30.8
    Moore Park 26.2
    Cork Airport 24.7
    Oak Park 23.4
    Claremorris 22.2
    Knock Airport 21.8
    Roches Point 21.1
    Valentia 20.2
    ...
    Finner Camp 8.5
    Shannon Airport 8.4
    Malin Head 7.3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Ban bank holidays.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    I pick Johnstown for everything, all the time and it always lets me down..... the one time I dont


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Sherkin heading for 2nd place as things stand

    Maybe will give Johnston a run if rains continue but i think theres a clearance coming


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Sherkin into second at 26.2mm yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Some Top 3 wet contenders today again

    What a washout so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After first week ...

    IMT was on 12.1 which was 0.8 below normal for the period.

    MAX 19.3 at PP 2nd, MIN 4.9 at Moore Park 7th.

    PRC 208% of normal.

    SUN 98.7% of normal, as usual Valentia holding down the average somewhat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Markree was 3.8c one of the days last week MT or am I wrong?

    4th June in fact


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  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    I think Gurteen floated into third place with 25.6mm yesterday.

    For interest, these are the totals for 7th & 8th June.Sherkin Island 33.8
    Johnstown Castle 30.0
    Gurteen 28.6
    Casement 24.4
    Mullingar 24.1
    Oak Park 23.8
    Valentia 23.0
    Shannon Airport 22.1
    Dunsany 21.9
    Ballyhaise 21.4
    Knock Airport 20.1
    ......
    Claremorris 10.0
    Finner Camp 8.7
    Mt Dillon 7.4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Some more top 10s after Fri night Saturday

    Did YOU know it was going to be this wet MT and thats why you did a rain bonus?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    pauldry wrote: »
    Some more top 10s after Fri night Saturday

    Did YOU know it was going to be this wet MT and thats why you did a rain bonus?:confused:


    He did go for 100% so he was being cautious :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I was expecting a few wet days and a dry spell later but this has been more like a deluge followed by perhaps a bit of improvement. The location points are going to be few and far between at this rate, but that's only three out of the ten, I recall one forecast of Sherkin Island (not on the same page as forecasts typing this but I think it was Lumi) and none for JC or Gurteen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I was expecting a few wet days and a dry spell later but this has been more like a deluge followed by perhaps a bit of improvement. The location points are going to be few and far between at this rate, but that's only three out of the ten, I recall one forecast of Sherkin Island (not on the same page as forecasts typing this but I think it was Lumi) and none for JC or Gurteen.

    Indeed it was Lumi.

    I'm hoping after tonight's rain that we won't see anymore very wet days for a long while. I want to get at least some decent points for my rainfall even though it doesn't look like it :(.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Im actually worried my 135per cent rain was too conservative and our temperatures are all way too high so far. Surely next Thursday or Friday well get one warm day. Usually when theres a dry spell promised we get a fraction of it in the actual event


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Valentia floats into the lead at 31.1mm yesterday.
    Still raining at Midnight, so 2-day totals tomorrow will be interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    pauldry wrote: »
    Markree was 3.8c one of the days last week MT or am I wrong?

    4th June in fact

    Thanks, I missed that one. That may hold up for the month now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Tae laidir wrote: »
    Valentia floats into the lead at 31.1mm yesterday.
    Still raining at Midnight, so 2-day totals tomorrow will be interesting.

    That could be that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    2-day totals 9 & 10 June.
    Valentia 34.4
    Sherkin Island 27.6
    Roches Point 26.9
    Cork Airport 24.8
    Johnstown Castle 24.1
    .....
    Belmullet 5.3
    Malin Head 4.6
    Finner Camp 3.6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After two weeks ...

    IMT on 13.24 C after a rather warm second week, average 14.4 which was 0.9 above the normal for the period (8th-14th). This should rise to most forecasters' satisfaction this week (well past 14 by end of week three, I will guess 14.8).

    PRC now at 216% with another wet week that averaged 224% across the grid. This now guarantees about 110% of normal when today's scattered 3-8 mm amounts are included, even if rest of the month were to be bone dry. Assuming at least 50% that guarantees about 140%.

    SUN took a rest, pushing the average down to 77% with this past week only 55% of normal. That looks like it might recover a bit this week.

    Not keeping very careful track of MAX as it seems to lie in the future, but saw 21.2 on yesterday's reports from Phoenix Park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The MAX now stands at 26.8 from Phoenix Park on Saturday, tops on Sunday being 26.2. So far Tae laidir has this one nailed, and as to MIN (3.8), two guesses right on that current value from sunflower3 and mickger844posts.

    The IMT through yesterday was 14.0 and is still rising at about 0.2 per day during this warm spell. That may slow down later in the week but I expect the IMT to be fairly close to 15 through Friday 23rd (at least 14.8), question then being whether it stays that high to end of the month (sdanseo has 15.0 as our highest IMT guess, the second highest was 14.5 from four of us (Rameire, Rikand, MrSkinner and MTC).

    PRC has not risen much in terms of guaranteed outcome which is now around 120% and SUN has improved back towards normal with this very sunny four-day interval counting today (Belmullet missed out but even so, looks like an average of over 200 per cent since last report, which would raise the figures from 77% to about 100% through today, which would be maintained if the third week comes in at 150%).

    No recent action in the rainfall sweepstakes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Moore Park peaked at 26.9 yesterday. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After the third week ...

    IMT reached 14.54 with the third week a very warm 17.2, a full 3.2 deg above normal. A new MAX of 28.6 was recorded yesterday at Phoenix Park. Closest to that in our forecast table is John mac at 28.9. The IMT seems likely to thrash around in the mid-14s to about Monday and could even fall back slightly next week, my guess for the final figure is 14.4.

    PRC has fallen back towards our forecast range and now sits at 149% of normal after a generally dry week (15% of normal). This guarantees at least 110% as the outcome but will speculate closer to 130%.

    SUN got a much needed jolt with 151.3% of normal for the grid during the past week, which leaves the average at 102% of normal. From here on, that may not change.

    MIN remains on 3.8 C which could get some minor challenges mid-week, but may be a safe bet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,584 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    IMT edged up to 14.6 through 24th, probably back to 14.5 after Sunday.

    (added 0630) _ Several stations reported 4 C at 0500h, including Dublin, Markree and Mountdillon, so possibly a slight tick down for the MIN?

    If models are right IMT will drift down to about 14.2 or 14.3 for a final figure, Thursday and Friday look to be lucky to average 12 C.


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