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Cryptocurrency

  • 18-05-2017 10:37am
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    Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭


    Hello
    Does anyone follow the crypto currency market here?
    I remember I followed the thread (https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057263128/75?) re Stellar Lumens about 2 years ago and saw online the market value jumped to $0.04 from $0.01 over the past week.
    I've made about 80 quid from nothing!
    What do people think of investing in crypto, apart from the obvious is volatile etc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 conall122


    I've placed a grand in dgd last august and will continue to hold till the dgx 2.0 launch. I didn't put any on ethereum at the time which i really regret because i could of made 10 times my investment back. i did get some eth at 40ish though. I've made a lot of money from cryptocurrencies so far but i don't plan on trading them forever. The market cap on most of them is ridiculously high and i don't think the growth we're seeing in them will sustain for much longer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    It's a textbook.bubble.

    People who get in early will make money..

    People who don't get out in time will get burnt.

    These fads come along every generation. Always ends up the same way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    It's a textbook.bubble.

    People who get in early will make money..

    People who don't get out in time will get burnt.

    These fads come along every generation. Always ends up the same way.

    You dont really get it do you? Do you understand Crypto-Currency?


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭TheJackAttack


    I've been trying since Friday to verify a kraken account. It's a bloody nightmare.. I currently hold some ZEM and Stellar.. Trying to get a hold of some Ether..
    Still trying to get my head around it but as a concept it's revolutionary .. Pivot Eoin - can you tell me of your experience?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Pivot Eoin wrote: »
    You dont really get it do you? Do you understand Crypto-Currency?

    I do. It's an invented currency driven to hyperinflation by demand with zero intrinsic value.

    Do you understand economics?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Prezatch


    Pivot Eoin wrote: »
    You dont really get it do you? Do you understand Crypto-Currency?

    Sounds like you don't really get it to be honest....
    Pivot Eoin wrote:
    Just bought my first €25.00 of Bitcoin (Max Allowed) on Belgacoin. Wish me luck! Complete noob to this

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭The Cuban


    Offloaded my Gnosis, made a tidy 522% profit, basically 2k to 10k in a month :)
    Where would you get it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Hello
    Does anyone follow the crypto currency market here?
    I remember I followed the thread (https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057263128/75?) re Stellar Lumens about 2 years ago and saw online the market value jumped to $0.04 from $0.01 over the past week.
    I've made about 80 quid from nothing!
    What do people think of investing in crypto, apart from the obvious is volatile etc

    If you want to dip your toes, I would use coinbase. The fees are higher than an exchange like Kraken but it is much simplier.

    I've stuck to Bitcoin and ETH. I spend about €100 a month. I was buying 1 ETH and the change on bitcoin until ETH smashed through the €100 mark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    These fads come along every generation. Always ends up the same way.

    Pretty profitable fad, 7 years ago Bitcoin was worth $0.05, now it's around $2,300.00. That represents one of the best returns possible on any fin. instrument in that time scale.

    Just about every major financial/banking institution is researching/developing the ledger and blockchain tech behind - and modern crypto-currencies are at the cutting edge of differing aspects of that tech and adapting to their needs (e.g. Ethereum, Ripple)

    That's worth something, and the potential they have appears to be worth a lot to the speculative market that has built up around them

    The bubble has already happened - this is the second bubble, creating a market pattern, and this one is far, far larger. When this pops, everyone will be waiting for the third

    These coins aren't companies that go bust. They aren't affected by economic downfall (if anything they are boosted by it). If they do disappear, meh.. 100% return on a basket of coins in a week? 3,000% on a single coin in a month?

    Fad or not, that can't be ignored, it creates it's own demand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    If you want to dip your toes, I would use coinbase. The fees are higher than an exchange like Kraken but it is much simplier.

    I've stuck to Bitcoin and ETH. I spend about €100 a month. I was buying 1 ETH and the change on bitcoin until ETH smashed through the €100 mark.

    I second this - Coinbase.com seems to be one of the most simple/solid methods of buying Bitcoin, Ethereum or Litecoin

    They also seem to be making steps towards securing holdings like a traditional bank

    "98% of customer funds are stored offline

    Offline storage provides an important security measure against theft or loss.
    We distribute bitcoin geographically in safe deposit boxes and vaults around the world."

    "All digital currency that Coinbase holds online is fully insured. This means that if Coinbase were to suffer a breach of its online storage, the insurance policy would pay out to cover any customer funds lost as a result.

    The insurance policy covers any losses resulting from a breach of Coinbase’s physical security, cyber security, or by employee theft. The policy is provided by a syndicate of insurers through Lloyd’s of London. "


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  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭TheJackAttack


    So do you gents tend to trade with these exchanges such as coinbase (I've recently bought some ripple on bitstamp), and store/use the currency there? i.e. you're not storing them in wallets?
    I bought some ethereum with Cryptomate as I was too impatient for my kraken account (it's still not verified) to myetherwallet..
    The whole thing is fascinating!
    I'm currently holding ETH, ZEM, XRP and XLM - really want to get a hold of some bitcoin


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭TheJackAttack


    Dohnjoe wrote: »


    The bubble has already happened - this is the second bubble, creating a market pattern, and this one is far, far larger. When this pops, everyone will be waiting for the third
    What is your advice in this bubble?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Hello
    Does anyone follow the crypto currency market here?
    I remember I followed the thread (https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057263128/75?) re Stellar Lumens about 2 years ago and saw online the market value jumped to $0.04 from $0.01 over the past week.
    I've made about 80 quid from nothing!
    What do people think of investing in crypto, apart from the obvious is volatile etc
    If you wouldn't invest in the company don't invest in the currency hugely right now. Some of them will be around in ten years. Some will be big Some won't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    What is your advice in this bubble?

    Don't spend what you can't afford to lose

    If the bubble bursts - I strongly recommend holding, e.g. I bought a particular coin 4 years ago during that last bubble, which had been declining in value until the last 2 or 3 months, when it has rebounded and put me well into the black again


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 italia_2023


    Anyone bought NEM? Can anyone recommend where can i buy this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭TheJackAttack


    Anyone bought NEM? Can anyone recommend where can i buy this?
    Bitstamp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    I've got a tip that humaniq could be a good shout, great technology behind it no products out there on the market like it, also mysterium is having an ico next week, with the underlying technology being a block chain based vpn.

    Other than that I'm balls deep in ripple and stellar, could swing either way, I'm thinking once ripple gains more commercial traction and limits supply the price will rise.

    I see bitcoin adjusting a bit after it's record week this week so it's probably a good time to buy undervalued altcoins, with good underlying technology.

    I use poloniex and bittrex to trade and have initially funded my account through coinbase I wouldn't recommend it for larger transactions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Yeah my friend bought into the Humaniq ICO - but not so sure about it, banking for poor people? requires the latest fingerprint scan tech in smart phones and a digital currency - hmmm - but hey this is about speculative profits

    Would be possibly interested in the Kik (chat app) ICO this summer, one of the first large companies to try an ICO - could be decent investment

    Am curious to see what happens with the current dip in the market


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Yeah my friend bought into the Humaniq ICO - but not so sure about it, banking for poor people? requires the latest fingerprint scan tech in smart phones and a digital currency - hmmm - but hey this is about speculative profits

    Would be possibly interested in the Kik (chat app) ICO this summer, one of the first large companies to try an ICO - could be decent investment

    Am curious to see what happens with the current dip in the market

    Its the underlying technology that's driving humaniq, imagine having a bank account that you could only withdraw from with your face or eye, there's huge potential on that.

    Sure third world countries are a use case, but it would be something similar to Facebook introducing those WiFi blimps across the third world, you could make a case that they would also want to introduce these in developed countries also as a means of controlling infrastructure.

    Didn't know the kick ico is coming up will keep tabs


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭TheJackAttack


    I exchanged my stellar for ether - Neon Light, do you have any insight into the progression of this coin?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    I exchanged my stellar for ether - Neon Light, do you have any insight into the progression of this coin?

    Which stellar or ether? And etherium or etherium classic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭The Oort Cloud


    I'm new to this as well, I received 50 free Stellar Lumens in 2014 and brought it up to 4,500 Lumens in a few days. I'm thinking of buying a few more as I have a feeling Stellar is going to take off well in the next few years. I'll bide my time :)

    I'm hoping that in a few years the Lumen will be worth €15. According to the latest information, Stellar has took a high, I think it is going to go a lot higher in July.

    Individual people have different thoughts and understanding in regard to others opinions, but the problem is this... there are some people out there that will do everything in their power to cut you off when they do not like your opinion even when it is truth.

    https://youtu.be/v8EseBe4eIU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Interesting to see what coins fell sharply

    Stratis and Factom held very well. Golem not too bad either.

    Ripple, Nem and Lumens seemed to take steeper dives, but Ripple was definitely very overpriced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭The Oort Cloud


    Don't sell any Lumens until you see the first of july. Stellar are giving a few billion free on June 27th 2017 for bitcoin holders.

    They are distributing up to 16 BILLION lumens to bitcoin holders or 16% of the initial lumens. On June 27th, 2017, we will make available these lumens to any bitcoin holder who wants them, including those that received lumens during the first giveaway round.

    Info Link https://www.stellar.org/blog/bitcoin-claim-lumens-2/

    Individual people have different thoughts and understanding in regard to others opinions, but the problem is this... there are some people out there that will do everything in their power to cut you off when they do not like your opinion even when it is truth.

    https://youtu.be/v8EseBe4eIU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    Don't sell any Lumens until you see the first of july. Stellar are giving a few billion free on June 27th 2017 for bitcoin holders.

    They are distributing up to 16 BILLION lumens to bitcoin holders or 16% of the initial lumens. On June 27th, 2017, we will make available these lumens to any bitcoin holder who wants them, including those that received lumens during the first giveaway round.

    Info Link https://www.stellar.org/blog/bitcoin-claim-lumens-2/

    Interesting will that not saturate the supply though and cause it to drop initially? Will definitely pick up some

    Ripple thinking of a SegWit style of limitation which will be announced in June apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭The Oort Cloud


    Interesting will that not saturate the supply though and cause it to drop initially? Will definitely pick up some

    Ripple thinking of a SegWit style of limitation which will be announced in June apparently.

    I'm not sure whether the Lumen will drop much just after the 27th June giveaway, If the price drops then it will be a good time to buy Lumens. Don't forget, it will take some time in the near future to see how well the Lumen goes, but purchasing them cheap if the price drops is a good investment, and then just wait it out for a year to see how it goes.

    I'm in for the long-haul and hopefully the Stellar Lumen becomes well established as a banking Cryptocurrency in the years to come. It could fail though, and there again it could fly with a big bank or two if they decide to use it in the years to come. It's basically impossible to predict how it will go.

    My 4,500 Lumens on Cryptocurrency Converter is now priced at...

    4500 Stellar Lumens (XLM) = 142.35 EUR

    Yesterday the price was... 4500 Stellar Lumens (XLM) = 134.96 EUR

    Individual people have different thoughts and understanding in regard to others opinions, but the problem is this... there are some people out there that will do everything in their power to cut you off when they do not like your opinion even when it is truth.

    https://youtu.be/v8EseBe4eIU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭IK09


    Hey

    Im just wondering where is the best place to buy crypto and where is the cheapest place. I have setup a Coinbase account but their charging over €9 for €250 worth of Ethereum. Just thought that it was a but much., Anyone know of somewhere less expensive?

    IK09


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    IK09 wrote: »
    Hey

    Im just wondering where is the best place to buy crypto and where is the cheapest place. I have setup a Coinbase account but their charging over ?9 for ?250 worth of Ethereum. Just thought that it was a but much., Anyone know of somewhere less expensive?

    IK09

    I take it you buying them with credit card? If you use a SEPA transfer to put the funds on your account then it is cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    It's a textbook.bubble.

    People who get in early will make money..

    People who don't get out in time will get burnt.

    These fads come along every generation. Always ends up the same way.

    Agree, except I think they are coming more often than each generation.

    The 'net is accelerating the process


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Leechy


    Hello everyone,

    I am sure it is not necessary to buy Bitcoin investing in cryptocurrency, there are many fast growing currencies such Dash, Litecoin, Bytecoin, Nem, Zcash, etc.
    You can exchange them on Bitcoin later on if you wish to have the Bitcoin.

    Regards


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Leechy


    Hi The Cuban,

    That's incredible result, what would you advise to buy else ?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Anyone mining ethereum? I do have some issues, for some reason cant connect second card to my pc with PCI-E 16x to PCI-E 1x.
    I do not exactly know how to proceed. Do I need to unplug original card and instal second one first and then plug in first back or? Anyone in Limerick who can help me sort it out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Leechy


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Anyone mining ethereum? I do have some issues, for some reason cant connect second card to my pc with PCI-E 16x to PCI-E 1x.
    I do not exactly know how to proceed. Do I need to unplug original card and instal second one first and then plug in first back or? Anyone in Limerick who can help me sort it out?

    I know nothing about how to mining crypto, but if I were you I would try google and youtube, there are many people want to share their experience and give you a hand, you will be pleased surprised


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Anyone mining ethereum? I do have some issues, for some reason cant connect second card to my pc with PCI-E 16x to PCI-E 1x.
    I do not exactly know how to proceed. Do I need to unplug original card and instal second one first and then plug in first back or? Anyone in Limerick who can help me sort it out?
    What sort of rate are you mining at if you dont mind me asking?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭The Cuban


    Leechy wrote: »
    Hi The Cuban,

    That's incredible result, what would you advise to buy else ?

    Thanks
    I`m afraid the boat has sailed for all these cryptos. The chances of making serveral hundred percent gains are slim, whereas the chances of the cryptos halving in value is quite high now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 nate.drake


    The Cuban wrote: »
    I`m afraid the boat has sailed for all these cryptos. The chances of making serveral hundred percent gains are slim, whereas the chances of the cryptos halving in value is quite high now.

    Someone told me the same thing when I paid $1200 dollars per Bitcoin back in April, it's now more than doubled. While it may not triple again overnight, it's not inconceivable, certainly if we can get more countries adopting it.

    For my own part I use Bitcoin gains to pay for my trading fees in more sensible investments, it's done the job so far for the past three years with plenty left over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Quick turnovers are probably going to be rare now, unless you have a lot of money to throw into an ICO. ICO's are more about the hype than the product right now, but that will also not last too long. Regulation will eventually be brought in and the hype will wear off.

    But there are still gains to be made with smart investments. Some good products out there where you can invest coins, just need to do your research.

    You can still play the market and watch for trends. You can watch out for patterns in TA charts and try to make a bit of profit especially with btc and eth. Looking at the charts now, the patterns are showing we should get a spike over the weekend. So buying now could net some profit by the end of the weekend. But there is no science behind this and you could also lose out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭crowseye


    Agreed jester the real gains are in products with smaller market caps and good teams behind them, you just need to do your research. There's still a lot of money to be made there. ICOs still have potential for huge gains but nowhere near as much as they did before as demand has gotten so high. Again you need to do your research and not invest blindly into any ICO you can jump into which is what is happening now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    crowseye wrote: »
    Agreed jester the real gains are in products with smaller market caps and good teams behind them, you just need to do your research. There's still a lot of money to be made there. ICOs still have potential for huge gains but nowhere near as much as they did before as demand has gotten so high. Again you need to do your research and not invest blindly into any ICO you can jump into which is what is happening now!

    ICO's are currently flawed imo, the vultures are throwing their money at it and due to them not being capped, it is making it nearly impossible for the small guy to even get in. BAT was just ridiculous, $36 million in under 30 seconds with no chance for the little guy to get in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭crowseye


    Completely agree jester I think everyone realized what a ****show the BAT ICO was, I tried to invest a small amount myself and most of the reputable ICOs are now introducing caps to let the little person in. I've learnt to avoid certain ICOs from experience. Something like Bancor which people are going crazy for doesn't appeal to me at all, Tezos is another one where the funds raised will be so large that the risk/reward of the investment isn't worth it. There are still a few diamonds in the rough though if you know where to look.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    crowseye wrote: »
    Completely agree jester I think everyone realized what a ****show the BAT ICO was, I tried to invest a small amount myself and most of the reputable ICOs are now introducing caps to let the little person in. I've learnt to avoid certain ICOs from experience. Something like Bancor which people are going crazy for doesn't appeal to me at all, Tezos is another one where the funds raised will be so large that the risk/reward of the investment isn't worth it. There are still a few diamonds in the rough though if you know where to look.

    I am staying clear of the ICOs, too much hassle and with a small group of investors taking a majority stake, then they have too much control over where the price goes imo.

    Santiment is one that looks promising, but I'll watch from the sidelines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭The Cuban


    nate.drake wrote: »
    Someone told me the same thing when I paid $1200 dollars per Bitcoin back in April,
    And what Alias were you under then? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,757 ✭✭✭el diablo


    nate.drake wrote: »
    Someone told me the same thing when I paid $1200 dollars per Bitcoin back in April, it's now more than doubled. While it may not triple again overnight, it's not inconceivable, certainly if we can get more countries adopting it.


    Tripling overnight at this stage is absolutely inconceivable.

    We're all in this psy-op together.🤨



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Thargor wrote: »
    What sort of rate are you mining at if you dont mind me asking?

    I just have one pc going 24/7 with AMD card which does 24-25Mh/s on ethereum. Dual with Siacoin. It is not much but who knows how high will ethereum go. I do have another with the same speed but junior does play on it in daytime so I let it mine in a night only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    el diablo wrote: »
    Tripling overnight at this stage is absolutely inconceivable.

    Tripling overnight no but many cryptos are doing 100-150% in 24 hours. Important question is which one is next :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 nate.drake


    The Cuban wrote: »
    And what Alias were you under then? :D

    No doubt you're thinking of the 'Uncharted' video games - sad to say I've never played them. Wouldn't mind some of that Aztec gold, would make for a nice investment mind you :-D


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭leandrolorenzi


    I had 4500 stellar/Lumens assigned/gained in 2014.. I never touched them, and now they run around 450 Eur. They 'worthed' 650 a few days ago.. anyway my attempt to move them from Stellar.org to any crypto wallet never go through, the transactions always failed. Any tip to convert them in other Cryptocurrencies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭jamesbondings


    I had 4500 stellar/Lumens assigned/gained in 2014.. I never touched them, and now they run around 450 Eur. They 'worthed' 650 a few days ago.. anyway my attempt to move them from Stellar.org to any crypto wallet never go through, the transactions always failed. Any tip to convert them in other Cryptocurrencies?

    in a similar boat to you, your 4500 lumens are now worth nearly 1000 euro!
    no idea how to get the cash though. but happy enough to leave them. got most of them for free so happy with nearly 900% increase.

    im tempted to liquidate half and put it into ripple at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭leandrolorenzi


    I moved them to Binance, in case I want to trade other currencies.
    If you want to cash out, you need to convert them to BTC/ETH/LTC or any other major Cryptocurrencies and move them to an exchange ( in my case Bitstamp)

    I am not sure if there are also quicker/cheaper 'triangulation' options, this is just my experience at the moment

    For the ones who use Revolut , you could trade cryptocurrencies there as well
    revolut.com/t/leandrn9!crypto


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    I moved them to Binance, in case I want to trade other currencies. If you want to cash out, you need to convert them to BTC/ETH/LTC or any other major Cryptocurrencies and move them to an exchange ( in my case Bitstamp)


    This is pretty normal. Can't cash out alt coins unless you convert to a more well known one.


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