Neighbours refuses to allow new ftth installation

Barry122 · 24-05-2017 04:51PM #1

Can anybody help me?

I was supposed to get ftth installed today but my neighbour refused to allow the technician to install the new fibre line as the telephone pole is in their garden and that the phone lines ruin their view. The technician couldn't do anything about that.

Seriously???? They can't do that? And I'm not the only one down the lane that wants ftth, its these neighbours who are blocking access to fibre.

Are there any regulations regarding access to phone services.

Gonzo · 24-05-2017 05:02PM

Barry122 wrote: »

Can anybody help me?

I was supposed to get ftth installed today but my neighbour refused to allow the technician to install the new fibre line as the telephone pole is in their garden and that the phone lines ruin their view. The technician couldn't do anything about that.

Seriously???? They can't do that? And I'm not the only one down the lane that wants ftth, its these neighbours who are blocking access to fibre.

Are there any regulations regarding access to phone services.

that's extremely unfortunate and very selfish of your neighbors trying to deny you a much needed service.This issue should probably be raised with Eir themselves and see what they can do. http://www.boards.ie/ttforum/1293

Barry122 · 24-05-2017 05:34PM

Called eir and they said they can't continue without their permission.

They neighbours refuse to co-operate since the telephone lines are ugly and destroy their sh1tty scenic views. They want them to go underground. Good luck! I said to them, OpenEir won't move a finger to accommodate you.

So back to mobile internet for me.........

CeilingFly · 24-05-2017 05:39PM

Hope that neighbour never needs help from other neighbours.

I'll have a wild guess that they didn't grow up in a rural area.

long_b · 24-05-2017 05:48PM

Would anyone else close to you be able to put up a pole or two to skip out the neighbour's one ?

I'd be beyond livid OP

ssaasas · 24-05-2017 05:51PM

Offer to pay for the cables to go underground if all who want to get FTTH pay equally then it should not be too much and everyone is happy.

ssaasas · 24-05-2017 05:51PM

Offer to pay for the cables to go underground if all who want to get FTTH pay equally then it should not be too much and everyone is happy.

Johnboy1951 · 24-05-2017 06:00PM

ssaasas wrote: »

Offer to pay for the cables to go underground if all who want to get FTTH pay equally then it should not be too much and everyone is happy.

You think neighbours like that would be willing to allow their precious garden to be dug up for underground ducting?

refused to allow the technician to install the new fibre line as the telephone pole is in their garden

Johnboy1951 · 24-05-2017 06:01PM

CeilingFly wrote: »

Hope that neighbour never needs help from other neighbours.

I'll have a wild guess that they didn't grow up in a rural area.

I would hope they do ...... tomorrow! :eek:

Barry122 · 24-05-2017 06:03PM

Paying to put the cables underground is not a viable option. Other neighbours wouldn't be happy with their front garden being dug up. And I don't have that much cash.

Barry122 · 24-05-2017 06:05PM

They're both retired urban teachers who own several properties so you can imagine their sense of power and superiority.

ssaasas · 24-05-2017 06:08PM

Barry122 wrote: »

Paying to put the cables underground is not a viable option. Other neighbours wouldn't be happy with their front garden being dug up. And I don't have that much cash.

Then you have a problem with all your neighbours, not just the ones with the pole. If you neighours want FTTH they would allow the cables run to be dug, if everyone else is happy with the current internet then you will have to be too.

Other option is talk to the neigbour with the pole and offer a €5000 fee to allow access to their land so the new cables can be added to the pole.

nhunter100 · 24-05-2017 06:10PM

Barry122 wrote:

Seriously???? They can't do that? And I'm not the only one down the lane that wants ftth, its these neighbours who are blocking access to fibre.

I'm afraid they can it's on their private property. Sucks I know, can you talk to them and maybe come to an arrangement with them and the rest of your neighbours who want this service.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 24-05-2017 06:16PM

Get in touch with your neighbours to get an idea of how many would be willing to sign up to the service. Form some sort of group and approach the refusers as a community. It will be harder to say no to a community effort. Be polite. Outline the benefits of the new connection, increased house value etc.

If that fails try contacting the local broadband officer in your county to act as an intermediary with Openeir to see if they can reroute some cabling.

https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2017-05-18a.707&s=Telecommunications+infrastructure+speaker%3A206#g709.r

jimmycrackcorm · 24-05-2017 06:28PM

Am I right to think that the telephone pole already exists in their garden and they don't want it there. So it isn't going away?

Have you explained to them clearly that it it's you and the other neighbours that are affected by them?

Is there an option at cost for Eir to install an additional pole elsewhere that that you could club together with your other neighbours to pay for. Making sure of course that the neighbours get to keep their existing pole.

Barry122 · 24-05-2017 06:33PM

You must be joking.

First of all, putting the cables underground is no easy task, the main road would have to be dug up, driveways, gardens etc. It's too much trouble, unnecessary trouble to say the least. And not a financially viable one.

Sure doesn't everybody have a couple thousand euro laying around!

EverythingGood · 24-05-2017 06:34PM

Barry122 wrote: »

Called eir and they said they can't continue without their permission.

They neighbours refuse to co-operate since the telephone lines are ugly and destroy their sh1tty scenic views. They want them to go underground. Good luck! I said to them, OpenEir won't move a finger to accommodate you.

So back to mobile internet for me.........

Ask the neighbours to call eir, get them to ask for free broadband and free tv for life from eir, and then they will give permission for eir to provide to rest of neighbourhood

ssaasas · 24-05-2017 06:35PM

Barry122 wrote: »

You must be joking.

First of all, putting the cables underground is no easy task, the main road would have to be dug up, driveways, gardens etc. It's too much trouble, unnecessary trouble to say the least. And not a financially viable one.

Sure doesn't everybody have a couple thousand euro laying around!

I am not saying you pay the €5000 by yourself, you said most of your neighbours want it too, split the cost and it will be a few hundred each.

If not be happy with what you have.

Professor Moriarty · 24-05-2017 06:38PM

Barry122 wrote: »

They're both retired urban teachers who own several properties so you can imagine their sense of power and superiority.

Teachers. Ah. They must be horrible people so. It's easy to imagine their sense of superiority and power.

Barry122 · 24-05-2017 06:38PM

It's just one other neighbour

I might as well enjoy my dial up connection before the crazy neighbours cut down the existing phone lines by themselves.

Barry122 · 24-05-2017 06:40PM

Sarcasm eh?

But in all fairness, they are still on a power trip, they have been known to be harsh....but let's not infest this thread with their descriptions.

ssaasas · 24-05-2017 06:44PM

Two people only want it? Yeah it looks like there is no incentive for your neigbour to allow access to their land. A chat about compensation is the only way forward with the three of you, it is common enough when access is needed on peoples land to pay for that access.

Personally I would pay a grand or two for fiber if I only had dial-up see what your neigbour thinks is a fair offer to split and take it to the people with the pole.

Professor Moriarty · 24-05-2017 06:45PM

Barry122 wrote: »

Sarcasm eh?

But in all fairness, they are still on a power trip, they have been known to be harsh....but let's not infest this thread with their descriptions.

Well, you started it! Anyway, as you describe it, it sounds like a sh1tty thing to do. What goes around comes around - they might need something from you some day soon and you'll have a bargaining chip.

Eric Cartman · 24-05-2017 07:18PM

offer free broadband to the house just before theirs, mount a wireless CPN on their roof and one pointing at it on yours, sign up for FTTH at that neighbours house, put a router in and assign them a lower priority and 25mbps cap.

they get free broadband, you get broadband, screw the in-between house.
Object to all planning they ever try go for in future , and point it out to their kids when they visit, no broadband = less sale price, I'm sure their inheritance taking a beating will cause them to clear up the mess.

9726_9726 · 24-05-2017 07:29PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Well, you started it! Anyway, as you describe it, it sounds like a sh1tty thing to do. What goes around comes around - they might need something from you some day soon and you'll have a bargaining chip.

Go around them with wireless! Find a neighbour that you have line-of-sight to, get fibre into their gaff and use a pair of Ubiquiti Powerbeam AC units to make a point to point link (you'll get 100-250M) to extend the juice to your house. Just don't tell Eir.... Make sure to tell your smug neighbour though!

Professor Moriarty · 24-05-2017 07:35PM

9726_9726 wrote: »

Go around them with wireless! Find a neighbour that you have line-of-sight to, get fibre into their gaff and use a pair of Ubiquiti Powerbeam AC units to make a point to point link (you'll get 100-250M) to extend the juice to your house. Just don't tell Eir.... Make sure to tell your smug neighbour though!

If it's illegal they'd probably report it to Eir!

Oat23 · 24-05-2017 07:40PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Well, you started it! Anyway, as you describe it, it sounds like a sh1tty thing to do. What goes around comes around - they might need something from you some day soon and you'll have a bargaining chip.

There's an ould bag (well she's in her 50s now) in our street who blocked the last 7 houses in the street from getting Chorus years ago. She wouldn't let them come on her property to put a cable across the front of her house hidden under the gutter. Chrous said there was nothing they could do and the few people below her who wanted Chorus were stuck with a dreadful 0.5MB/s Eircon connection.

One night, one of the neighbors went to pull the curtains and saw someone breaking into her car. He continued pulling them and went to bed.

It pays to be nice to your neighbors.

Professor Moriarty · 24-05-2017 07:43PM

Oat23 wrote: »

There's an ould bag (well she's in her 50s now) in our street who blocked the last 7 houses in the street from getting Chorus years ago. She wouldn't let them come on her property to put a cable across the front of her house hidden under the gutter. Chrous said there was nothing they could do and the few people below her who wanted Chorus were stuck with a dreadful 0.5MB/s Eircon connection.

One night, one of the neighbors went to pull the curtains and saw someone breaking into her car. He continued pulling them and went to bed.

It pays to be nice to your neighbors.

I feel sorry for people like that. I can only imagine how their minds work.

TheChizler · 24-05-2017 07:46PM

Surely if there was a fault with the existing line that required access to the pole openeir would have implicit right to access. How is this any different? If the existing line fell off the pole would they be obliged to allow access to replace it?

fxotoole · 24-05-2017 07:53PM

Barry122 wrote: »

Can anybody help me?

I was supposed to get ftth installed today but my neighbour refused to allow the technician to install the new fibre line as the telephone pole is in their garden and that the phone lines ruin their view. The technician couldn't do anything about that.

Seriously???? They can't do that? And I'm not the only one down the lane that wants ftth, its these neighbours who are blocking access to fibre.

Are there any regulations regarding access to phone services.

Exact same thing happened a friend of mine who lives down the country. Nothing can be done about it. He ended up getting ****ty 3G modem in the end, I think.

knucklehead6 · 24-05-2017 08:01PM

I refused to allow UPC (as they were then) run a cable from my house across to the house behind me, as I didn't want the cable strung between the two houses, across my back garden.

I did offer UPC access to my property to allow them feed the cable through my attic and down the side of my house and underground through the garden but I think the people living behind me didn't want that.

Nothing ever came of it, I think they ran the cable at the houses at the other end of the road. And it looks horrible.

Neighbours refuses to allow new ftth installation

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