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pjohnson · 23-05-2017 11:25AM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Something else going on in the UK now.. Security alert.

A fresh one?

infogiver · 23-05-2017 11:26AM

bubblypop wrote: »

I don't even know how to respond to this rubbish.

But, still, you did.

kopite386 · 23-05-2017 11:26AM

The arndale centre has been evacuated with lots of people running out crying they don't know what is happening though

Conservative · 23-05-2017 11:27AM

The families of extremists absolutely need to be held responsible if they were in close contact prior to attacks like this / leaving for Syria etc.

Look at the Halawa family and the little "holiday" their son decided to take. His passport should be revoked and the rest of the family returned to Egypt.

Take a look at any of the Muslim converts in the UK who went to fight for ISIS. You didn't notice when your son started dressing like a Saudi Sheikh and grew a **** off beard. It is negligence at best and should be prosecuted.

Hopefully false alarm at the Arndale centre.

RayM · 23-05-2017 11:29AM

Conservative wrote: »

The families of extremists absolutely need to be held responsible if they were in close contact prior to attacks like this / leaving for Syria etc.

Look at the Halawa family and the little "holiday" their son decided to take. His passport should be revoked and the rest of the family returned to Egypt.

Take a look at any of the Muslim converts in the UK who went to fight for ISIS. You didn't notice when your son started dressing like a Saudi Sheikh and grew a **** off beard. It is negligence at best and should be prosecuted.

Hopefully false alarm at the Arndale centre.

The harshest and angriest response to these atrocities isn't always the best one. In fact, it never is.

pjohnson · 23-05-2017 11:29AM

RayM wrote: »

The harshest and angriest response to these atrocities isn't always the best one. In fact, it never is.

The response of doing nothing is even worse.

PhoneMain · 23-05-2017 11:30AM

red ears wrote: »

Whats your solution and whats your vision for future European immigration?

These attacks aren't due to recent immigration issues.

Westminster Attack: "The attacker, 52-year-old Briton Khalid Masood, drove a car into pedestrians on the pavement along the south side of Westminster Bridge and Bridge Street"

Paris Attack: Abdelhamid Abaaoud was a Belgian-Moroccan, born in Anderlecht, a suburb of Brussels, Belgium. Salah Abdeslam (born 15 September 1989) is a Belgian-born French national of Moroccan descent.

Brussels attack: Ibrahim El Bakraoui was born on 9 October 1986 in Brussels and raised in Laken, a residential district in northwestern Brussels. Najim Laachraoui was born in Ajdir, Morocco but raised in the Schaerbeek neighbourhood of Brussels, where he attended a Catholic high school.

There's more I could mention. 3 of the London 2005 bombers were born in Leeds/Yorkshire. The other was born in Jamaica.

Now I'm no apologist for immigration, I certainly don't want unrestricted immigration to Europe. However, I can clearly see that the problem isn't with immigration, it's to do with radicalisation of loner young men who are on the edge of society.

Kerrydude1981 · 23-05-2017 11:30AM

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/866963567089790976

maximo31 · 23-05-2017 11:30AM

Live footage from Manchester :
https://www.facebook.com/granadareports/videos/1534615089892586/

Richard Hillman · 23-05-2017 11:31AM

RayM wrote: »

You don't have to be an "apologist" to feel that hatred and inhumanity will only breed more hatred and inhumanity.

Hatred and inhumanity win wars.

You're just rolling out non sensical cliches.

Widdershins · 23-05-2017 11:32AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

A woman reported suspicious behaviour to security during the concert, who basically told her "how would you like to be accused of this?"

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1763291003685489&id=164665060214766&_rdr

Why couldn't they have asked her (the agitated woman acting strangely)to come to the office and just talked to her to try to gauge her state of mind or something? I'm sure there'd have been a way of checking it out. They wouldn't need to be really heavy handed about it.

Why don't they check bags etc?

Fair play to the woman in the video for staying so clear headed, although she's probably a bit shocked.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 23-05-2017 11:32AM

RayM wrote: »

The harshest and angriest response to these atrocities isn't always the best one. In fact, it never is.

Well pandering to it and stifling discussion and hoping the problem goes away isn't working either

Mantis Toboggan · 23-05-2017 11:32AM

Jaysus another attack, crazy stuff.

AnneFrank · 23-05-2017 11:34AM

gmisk wrote: »

Her full title is grief vampire Kay Burley

plastic face

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 23-05-2017 11:35AM

PhoneMain wrote: »

These attacks aren't due to recent immigration issues.

Westminster Attack: "The attacker, 52-year-old Briton Khalid Masood, drove a car into pedestrians on the pavement along the south side of Westminster Bridge and Bridge Street"

Paris Attack: Abdelhamid Abaaoud was a Belgian-Moroccan, born in Anderlecht, a suburb of Brussels, Belgium. Salah Abdeslam (born 15 September 1989) is a Belgian-born French national of Moroccan descent.

Brussels attack: Ibrahim El Bakraoui was born on 9 October 1986 in Brussels and raised in Laken, a residential district in northwestern Brussels. Najim Laachraoui was born in Ajdir, Morocco but raised in the Schaerbeek neighbourhood of Brussels, where he attended a Catholic high school.

There's more I could mention. 3 of the London 2005 bombers were born in Leeds/Yorkshire. The other was born in Jamaica.

Now I'm no apologist for immigration, I certainly don't want unrestricted immigration to Europe. However, I can clearly see that the problem isn't with immigration, it's to do with radicalisation of loner young men who are on the edge of society.

And yet, you ignore the one thing they all have in common.

Billy86 · 23-05-2017 11:36AM

https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/866963477977591808

https://twitter.com/MENnewsdesk/status/866965412273160193

https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/866964827729793027

RayM · 23-05-2017 11:36AM

pjohnson wrote: »

The response of doing nothing is even worse.

"Something must be done..."

"Let's do something then... anything! Force-feed them pork, bury them in pigs' blood!"

People sometimes need to stop and take a f*cking look at themselves. Jesus.

23-05-2017 11:37AM

https://i.redd.it/bel6xsyka5zy.jpg

PhoneMain · 23-05-2017 11:37AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

And yet, you ignore the one thing they all have in common.

So, what do you suggest? Deport all Muslims?!

PeterTheNinth · 23-05-2017 11:37AM

Surprised by the lack of coverage of the terror attack on today's radio shows. I know people will say "well we dont really know anything, they cant keep saying the same thing"... But they have some oul harpie name dropping on RTE and it seems just a bit trite.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 23-05-2017 11:39AM

RayM wrote: »

"Something must be done..."

"Let's do something then... anything! Force-feed them pork, bury them in pigs' blood!"

People sometimes need to stop and take a f*cking look at themselves. Jesus.

They're attacking civilisation, our culture, our way of life. They don't care about much, they're so consumed by hate they're willing to sacrifice themselves. The one thing they do aeem to care about is their religion. Take that from them.

ThisRegard · 23-05-2017 11:40AM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Surprised by the lack of coverage of the terror attack on today's radio shows. I know people will say "well we dont really know anything, they cant keep saying the same thing"... But they have some oul harpie name dropping on RTE and it seems just a bit trite.

You were only complaining about Newstalks coverage a short while ago? Pat Kenny went back to it a few times, and you're saying that RTE are covering it, so what's left? That's all the current affair shows covering it.

SnakePlissken · 23-05-2017 11:40AM

RayM wrote: »

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Awaits the first apologist who claims to do so contravenes the terrorist' s human rights, well I'm sorry but I don't believe the monstrously inhuman deserve human rights.

You don't have to be an "apologist" to feel that hatred and inhumanity will only breed more hatred and inhumanity.

So you're saying it's wrong to feel hatred and contempt for an extremist who gladly murdered 22 innocent kids... I'm awestruck by your subservience to these barbarians.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 23-05-2017 11:40AM

PhoneMain wrote: »

So, what do you suggest? Deport all Muslims?!

Absolutely not. The majority of Muslims are good people. Unfortunely even 5% of Muslim extremists is an absolutely huge number.

sjb25 · 23-05-2017 11:41AM

Unfortunately we can all argue here till the cows come home nothing will be done (I'm not sure what can be) we will all say it's terrible it will be condemned by politicians and world leaders we will have a few prayer services probably put an aul monument up and move on for a few weeks months and it will all happen again with another attack again and we will all argue about it all again for 100 pages on boards what can be done I don't no but somebody sure as hell has to do something

elefant · 23-05-2017 11:41AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Absolutely not. The majority of Muslims are good people. Unfortunely even 5% of Muslim extremists is an absolutely huge number.

Where are you plucking 5% from?

75 million Islamic terrorists do you reckon?

TimeToShine · 23-05-2017 11:42AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Absolutely not. The majority of Muslims are good people. Unfortunely even 5% of Muslim extremists is an absolutely huge number.

It's not even 0.00005%. How could you possibly imply that 1 in 20 Muslims are terrorists or terrorist sympathisers?

PhoneMain · 23-05-2017 11:42AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Absolutely not. The majority of Muslims are good people. Unfortunely even 5% of Muslim extremists is an absolutely huge number.

You said they all have something in common. Yes, they're Muslim. So what's your solution?

23-05-2017 11:43AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

And yet, you ignore the one thing they all have in common.

I don't think anyone is ignoring the fact that they are radicalised fanatics.
The question is how do we deal with that?

AnneFrank · 23-05-2017 11:43AM

sjb25 wrote: »

Unfortunately we can all argue here till the cows come home nothing will be done (I'm not sure what can be) we will all say it's terrible it will be condemned by politicians and world leaders we will have a few prayer services probably put an aul monument up and move on for a few weeks months and it will all happen again with another attack again and we will all argue about it all again for 100 pages on boards what can be done I don't no but somebody sure as hell has to do something

like all conflicts, open talks

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