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Incident in Times Square NYC

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  • #32
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »
    You must have been feckin delighted how this turned out, given you were clinging on to hope upon hope that the Paris attack a few weeks ago was a bank robbery gone wrong despite it being contrary to all logic and reason.

    I must admit, I didn't buy the very first reports of the NYC ttack not being terror related. NY's mayor Bill De Blasio despises American society and law enforcement and supports violent hate groups like BLM, so I was taking the first reports from any office under his jurisdiction with a rather large pinch of salt.

    What does any of that have to do with a drunk driver?


  • #33
    Badly Drunk Boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,422 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    xzanti wrote: »
    If it had all the hallmarks of certain other recent incidents, which turned out to be terror related, then yes, I'm sure they would.
    Like the incident that happened in Henry Street years ago? A cousin of mine still has a limp from the injuries he received then.


  • #34
    C Montgomery Gurns II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    super_furry wrote: »
    Likewise, you must be gutted.

    Why would I be? It's not as if anyone on the conservative side of the debate needs their point to be proven any further. That one got pretty worn out the night Merkel got a few hundred women attacked at New Years 2015 and didn't even apologise for it (it was fairly on its last legs when a gang of ads posing as refugees killed nearly 200 people in Paris a few weeks prior).

    If you would take a look at my posting history you would see I didn't initially think the Dortmund bus attack was an Islamist strike as it didn't fit the modus operandi.

    Ain't nothing wrong with taking a logical, balanced view on things.


  • #35
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What does that have to do with a drunk driver?


  • #36
    C Montgomery Gurns II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »
    Like the incident that happened in Henry Street years ago? A cousin of mine still has a limp from the injuries he received then.

    I could bet 50 quid he still lives here.


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  • #37
    C Montgomery Gurns II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What does that have to do with a drunk driver?

    Someone asked why a thread about a lone nut of, presumably, Catholic background was garnering less attention than a similar attack committed by a lone nut of Islamic background.

    I explained it is because lone Catholic nuts don't usually get handed a load of free stuff and told everything is some white person's fault.


    With the right attitude, pretty much every lone wolf strike in Europe and the US could have been prevented.

    You're still upset over the Paris thing aren't you.


  • #38
    biscuithead
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 157 ✭✭biscuithead


    Can we stop using idiotic, sensationalist jargonese terms like "lone wolf"?

    It's another cringeworthy americanism. If an individual perpetuates a crime then they are an individual not acting as part of a group.

    Lone wolf. Give me peace.


  • #39
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why are you trying to make this fit your narrative?


  • #40
    C Montgomery Gurns II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why are you trying to make this fit your narrative?

    What the hell are you talking about?

    Someone asked why this thread was so quiet. I explained that, unlike the vast majority of lone wolf Islamist attacks, there was nothing that could have been done to prevent this attack, and therefore the level of outrage is lower. Nothing in terms of US politics, society, political correctness- absolutely nothing could have prevented this man committing his attack while under the influence. Whereas in Nice, in Wurzberg, in Paris, in London, in Cologne, evasive measures could have and should have been taken to remove people involved in attacks from the state before they happened.


  • #41
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So you're saying it wasn't a drunk driver?


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  • #42
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    On behalf of the Irish government, I wish to express our condolences and solidarity with the people of New York at this time, Foreign Affairs Minister Charlie Flanagan said.

    :rolleyes:


  • #43
    C Montgomery Gurns II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So you're saying it wasn't a drunk driver?

    My guess would be he was under the influence of some of these strange experimental legal high type stuff, if not crack/ meth. Given how long the assault lasted and his bizarre jumping around after it.

    So how's that Paris bank robbery looking?


  • #44
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,129 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So you're saying it wasn't a drunk driver?

    Apparently he wasn't drunk, he was on drugs (synthetic marijuana) and planned to kill people and be killed himself by the police. So it was an intentional act. I don't think there were any political motivations though


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
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    C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »
    My guess would be he was under the influence of some of these strange experimental legal high type stuff, if not crack/ meth. Given how long the assault lasted and his bizarre jumping around after it.

    So how's that Paris bank robbery looking?

    You keep bringing this up. Salty much? :)

    Also gotta love how reporting news articles is construed as having an opinion.

    Anyway, I'm done now. Back to Voat with you. How's that "winning" going? ;)


  • #46
    andekwarhola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    gramar wrote: »
    Do traffic accidents in Ireland get reported in the US?

    Please stop being obtuse for ideological point-scoring.

    The first thing that must have passed through anybody's mind (even people not in either camp in here) was that it had the initial MO of a terrorist attack.

    Still tragic, whatever the cause. Not that it matters to most on the ideological battle terrain.


  • #47
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,891 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Apparently he wasn't drunk, he was on drugs (synthetic marijuana) and planned to kill people and be killed himself by the police. So it was an intentional act. I don't think there were any political motivations though

    And they say this K2 drug is been sold in corner stores in usa


  • #48
    gramar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    andekwarhola wrote: »
    Please stop being obtuse for ideological point-scoring.

    The first thing that must have passed through anybody's mind (even people not in either camp in here) was that it had the initial MO of a terrorist attack.

    Still tragic, whatever the cause. Not that it matters to most on the ideological battle terrain.

    But don't you see that nothing would have passed through anyone's mind if the media hadn't prematurely jumped on the story and given it the slant they were hoping for to fill up loads of column inches. It was relegated to the lower divisions of news stories fairly soon after and rightly so.
    Now the headline is 'no terror link in Times Square inicdent'.


  • #49
    gramar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    andekwarhola wrote: »
    Please stop being obtuse for ideological point-scoring.

    The first thing that must have passed through anybody's mind (even people not in either camp in here) was that it had the initial MO of a terrorist attack.

    Still tragic, whatever the cause. Not that it matters to most on the ideological battle terrain.

    Here's a headline for you....no terror links not terror related but the media couldn't resist sticking the word in none the less...

    'Tourist (18) killed in Times Square car terror, as police hold suspect in custody'


  • #50
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Nah, I thought it was a terrorist attack too. It fits an MO. It wasn't, thank heavens, but that's no comfort to the family of the dead and the injured people.

    Look, I'm sure there will be another terrorist attack and I am just relieved that they are far less common than they used to be as ISIS is being steadily run into a corner. Can we wait until that happens before jumping on the bandwagons?


  • #51
    dadad231
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭dadad231


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What does that have to do with a drunk driver?
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why are you trying to make this fit your narrative?
    Deleted User wrote: »
    So you're saying it wasn't a drunk driver?

    :confused:


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  • #52
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »
    My guess would be he was under the influence of some of these strange experimental legal high type stuff, if not crack/ meth. Given how long the assault lasted and his bizarre jumping around after it.

    So how's that Paris bank robbery looking?

    What Paris bank robbery?


  • #53
    Your Face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I read there that the perpetrator was ex-Navy.
    His friends saying he had problems ever since leaving said Navy.


  • #54
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    biscuithead wrote: »
    Rake of people got killed elswhere in the world.

    look, its not common for a car to drive through a crowd in one of the worlds busiest squares
    thats why its on the news


  • #55
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,891 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    I've seen the full video on breaking911 and its shocking . Luckily the car was brought to a halt on the kerbside or there would have been more casualties .

    the bonsai/k2 should be banned everywhere


  • #56
    marklazarcovic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    Was no accident anyway, disturbing video


  • #57
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,439 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Yeah just saw it on Facebook. Horrific and seemed like clear intent to kill as many as possible.


  • #58
    C Montgomery Gurns II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    Widdershins wrote: »
    What Paris bank robbery?

    A few weeks ago a lone wolf ISIS inspired gunman shot a policeman dead in central Paris on the eve of the French election.

    For a few hours after it, Boneyarsebogman, on a thread here, repeatedly claimed that the shooting was a bank robbery gone wrong.

    Despite the fact that several eyewitnesses reported the gunman pulling up in a car and opening fire on a pair of policemen, said poster was spreading fake news, completely defying logic (what kind of moron would commit a bank robbery alone the main tourist strip in France on the even of a national election when, 18 months into a state of emergency, on the eve of an election, the Champs Elysee would be even more crawling with cops than it usually is)

    Whle the AAA PBP are nothing more than a humourous sideshow with one percent support on the last count (given that we have 4 percent "hardcore" unemployed their supporters can't be arsed mustering up the words to say "yes" in a phone poll, let alone vote for the lowlifes, the fact that up to 17 percent of the population of the UK might vote for ISIS sympathetic parties like Labour in the forthcoming election, and opinions like that stated above, is deeply worrying.


  • #59
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Anyone who describes a car ploughing into a couple of dozen people as 'not terror related' should look up the meaning of the word terror.


  • #60
    C Montgomery Gurns II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yu. How's that "winning" going? ;)

    You tell me, you endorsed this. After all, you would have staunchly opposed his deportation over his prior minor offences.

    My biggest surprise is that he was homeless. I'm surprised Ruth didn't sort him a bachelor pad.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/exasylum-seeker-arrested-over-terrifying-sex-attack-on-mum-in-front-of-her-baby-35734406.html


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