Incident in Times Square NYC

namloc1980

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Multiple people struck by a car. One reported dead.

Edit: Seems to be a horrendous drink driving incident.

eviltwin

Just been talking to a friend who works on Times Square, its not terror related thankfully. The driver was an elderly man, probably just a tragic accident but terrible none the less.

ETA: he now says its a 26 yr old male driver, still not believed to be terror related though

SEPT 23 1989

Driving wrong way up the street

gramar

Do traffic accidents in Ireland get reported in the US?

xzanti

gramar wrote: »

Do traffic accidents in Ireland get reported in the US?

If it had all the hallmarks of certain other recent incidents, which turned out to be terror related, then yes, I'm sure they would.

The_Kew_Tour

Could be fella on run from Cops too. Too soon to say

Sofiztikated

Seems it's a fella with priors for drink driving. - Source: Some radio news station I was listening to a few minutes ago.

Celticfire

eviltwin wrote: »

Just been talking to a friend who works on Times Square, its not terror related thankfully. The driver was an elderly man, probably just a tragic accident but terrible none the less.

ETA: he now says its a 26 yr old male driver, still not believed to be terror related though

You'll have to forgive me if I wait for an official confirmation that it's not terror related, you'r info wasn't exactly reliable,

Harry Palmr

Drunk crashes car in busy street. Internet reacts. ISIS giggle.

gramar

xzanti wrote: »

If it had all the hallmarks of certain other recent incidents, which turned out to be terror related, then yes, I'm sure they would.

If it indeed turns out to be non terror related it will disappear off internet news sites as quickly as the posts on this thread will dry up....until a car backfires somewhere and a new one will be started.

Doltanian

Apparently the man had just eaten a big dinner, its worse than drink driving now if you believe Danny Healy-Rae.

biscuithead

In other words a traffic accident.

ED E

biscuithead wrote: »

In other words a traffic accident.

biscuithead

How many people are killed by drunk drvers a year as opposed to terrorists?

biscuithead

ED E wrote: »

there's ALWAYS someone to blame if you're that way inclined.

mikeymouse

Doltanian wrote: »

Apparently the man had just eaten a big dinner, its worse than drink driving now if you believe Danny Healy-Rae.

Especially if eaten in the middle of the day!

biscuithead

This crap is all over sky news. Why?

This thread will die a death because there's no platform to come out and spew about "the religion of peace".

Ironically if the driver was a muslim he would'nt have been drinking.

The_Kew_Tour

biscuithead wrote: »

This crap is all over sky news. Why?

This thread will die a death because there's no platform to come out and spew about "the religion of peace".

Ironically if the driver was a muslim he would'nt have been drinking.

Agree with everything else, but the last bit is like saying Catholics wait till marriage to have sex.

paulbok

Latest news has the driver as being from the biggest threat to the American people,








Another American.

Allinall

biscuithead wrote: »

This thread will die a death because there's no platform to come out and spew about "the religion of peace".

Bump.

super_furry

Jesus people really don't care when things like this happen if it's not a muslim involved. Not a single sign of the usual suspects or the brand new accounts who always seem to sign up when they're able to have a go at brown people.

wakka12

gramar wrote: »

Do traffic accidents in Ireland get reported in the US?

Regardless of whether its terror related or not 20+ people being hit by car in times square is obviously big news

SkepticQuark

super_furry wrote: »

Jesus people really don't care when things like this happen if it's not a muslim involved. Not a single sign of the usual suspects or the brand new accounts who always seem to sign up when they're able to have a go at brown people.

You should go to twitter instead, that's where the carry on can be found. I was engaged with some earlier (one claiming he was a "retired rocket scientist", I naturally said I was Bill Gates).

At least the usual suspects here on boards have the decency not to bother on this one but the ones on twitter know no bounds. Looks like this one was a tragic event at the hands of someone with a history of drinking issues. Surprised the ones on twitter are starting though with the Muslim/illegal immigrant talking points because he's apparently a veteran.

Thankfully it hasn't happened here but it's sad that people no matter what the evidence may suggest will try and fit things to a political narrative and ignore the real issue which is the lives of the victims that have been lost or forever impacted.

biscuithead

wakka12 wrote: »

Regardless of whether its terror related or not 20+ people being hit by car in times square is obviously big news

Rake of people got killed elswhere in the world.

dadad231

It's not a Muslim and it's not Terror related .

There you see, there is no problem with Islamic terrorism in the world right now - how dare you think so you racist bigots !!!
The real threat is the far right and Islamaphobia.

The_Kew_Tour

Some of those Verterans have as much blood on their hands as any terrorist

biscuithead

Beyondgone wrote: »

Times quare.

People love the tinge of exotica. It's cooler to have stuff happen in Neoney bits of NY than for a lad in a Passat, locked on cheap vodka, plough down 3 sheep in connemara. You can hardly expect people not to take an interest in this.

And in other news:

Couple lads in a car sprayed lead at a few other lads and lassies in compton. We don't yet know if its terror related.

Truck jacknifed outside istanbul killing 1 and injuring 11. Dont yet know if its terrorism.

It was ascertained immediately that this times square thing was not a "hit" yet it must be plastered on sky to make people think it was another ram job.

C Montgomery Gurns II

super_furry wrote: »

Jesus people really don't care when things like this happen if it's not a muslim involved. Not a single sign of the usual suspects or the brand new accounts who always seem to sign up when they're able to have a go at brown people.

It is because, politically, not a lot can be done by a lone, native born nut with seemingly no motive like what did today's attack.

With lone wolf attacks in Europe, it isn't just the attack itself. It is the political and social circumstances which have encouraged the attack to take place.

- the Nice attack. The perpetrator was a foreign national with a criminal record. Which leads to people questioning why he was still allowed to live in France.

- Stockholm. The attacker was an Uzbek former asylum seeker who should have been deported months prior.

- The Lee Rigby attackers had been radicalised by UK and foreign clerics who should have been shut down in the early 90's- instead the UK government gifted them benefits and free housing.

- the Wurzberg axe attack. A Pakistani masquerading as an Afghan, living on state benefits. The attack raised questions as to how little the German authorities know about the background of the people coming in.

- various knife, gun and vehicle attacks in Germany where the name, nationality, religion and motivation of the attacker are covered up promptly by the authorities, raising concerns about media censorship and transparency in our public officials.

- at least two lone wolf knife/ vehicle attacks carried about by Somali programme refugees, raising concerns about the quality of screening on refugee intake


There are literally dozens more examples of incidents that have happened across Europe, Canada, the US and Australia.

So what does this have to do with a drunk driver?

C Montgomery Gurns II

Deleted User wrote: »

So what does this have to do with a drunk driver?

You must have been feckin delighted how this turned out, given you were clinging on to hope upon hope that the Paris attack a few weeks ago was a bank robbery gone wrong despite it being contrary to all logic and reason.

I must admit, I didn't buy the very first reports of the NYC ttack not being terror related. NY's mayor Bill De Blasio despises American society and law enforcement and supports violent hate groups like BLM, so I was taking the first reports from any office under his jurisdiction with a rather large pinch of salt.

super_furry

C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »

You must have been feckin delighted how this turned out.

Likewise, you must be gutted.

C Montgomery Gurns II

C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »

You must have been feckin delighted how this turned out, given you were clinging on to hope upon hope that the Paris attack a few weeks ago was a bank robbery gone wrong despite it being contrary to all logic and reason.

I must admit, I didn't buy the very first reports of the NYC ttack not being terror related. NY's mayor Bill De Blasio despises American society and law enforcement and supports violent hate groups like BLM, so I was taking the first reports from any office under his jurisdiction with a rather large pinch of salt.

What does any of that have to do with a drunk driver?

Badly Drunk Boy

xzanti wrote: »

If it had all the hallmarks of certain other recent incidents, which turned out to be terror related, then yes, I'm sure they would.

Like the incident that happened in Henry Street years ago? A cousin of mine still has a limp from the injuries he received then.

C Montgomery Gurns II

super_furry wrote: »

Likewise, you must be gutted.

Why would I be? It's not as if anyone on the conservative side of the debate needs their point to be proven any further. That one got pretty worn out the night Merkel got a few hundred women attacked at New Years 2015 and didn't even apologise for it (it was fairly on its last legs when a gang of ads posing as refugees killed nearly 200 people in Paris a few weeks prior).

If you would take a look at my posting history you would see I didn't initially think the Dortmund bus attack was an Islamist strike as it didn't fit the modus operandi.

Ain't nothing wrong with taking a logical, balanced view on things.

What does that have to do with a drunk driver?

C Montgomery Gurns II

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Like the incident that happened in Henry Street years ago? A cousin of mine still has a limp from the injuries he received then.

I could bet 50 quid he still lives here.

C Montgomery Gurns II

Deleted User wrote: »

What does that have to do with a drunk driver?

Someone asked why a thread about a lone nut of, presumably, Catholic background was garnering less attention than a similar attack committed by a lone nut of Islamic background.

I explained it is because lone Catholic nuts don't usually get handed a load of free stuff and told everything is some white person's fault.


With the right attitude, pretty much every lone wolf strike in Europe and the US could have been prevented.

You're still upset over the Paris thing aren't you.

biscuithead

Can we stop using idiotic, sensationalist jargonese terms like "lone wolf"?

It's another cringeworthy americanism. If an individual perpetuates a crime then they are an individual not acting as part of a group.

Lone wolf. Give me peace.

Why are you trying to make this fit your narrative?

C Montgomery Gurns II

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are you trying to make this fit your narrative?

What the hell are you talking about?

Someone asked why this thread was so quiet. I explained that, unlike the vast majority of lone wolf Islamist attacks, there was nothing that could have been done to prevent this attack, and therefore the level of outrage is lower. Nothing in terms of US politics, society, political correctness- absolutely nothing could have prevented this man committing his attack while under the influence. Whereas in Nice, in Wurzberg, in Paris, in London, in Cologne, evasive measures could have and should have been taken to remove people involved in attacks from the state before they happened.

So you're saying it wasn't a drunk driver?

Harry Palmr

On behalf of the Irish government, I wish to express our condolences and solidarity with the people of New York at this time, Foreign Affairs Minister Charlie Flanagan said.

:rolleyes:

C Montgomery Gurns II

Deleted User wrote: »

So you're saying it wasn't a drunk driver?

My guess would be he was under the influence of some of these strange experimental legal high type stuff, if not crack/ meth. Given how long the assault lasted and his bizarre jumping around after it.

So how's that Paris bank robbery looking?

ceadaoin.

Deleted User wrote: »

So you're saying it wasn't a drunk driver?

Apparently he wasn't drunk, he was on drugs (synthetic marijuana) and planned to kill people and be killed himself by the police. So it was an intentional act. I don't think there were any political motivations though

C Montgomery Gurns II

C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »

My guess would be he was under the influence of some of these strange experimental legal high type stuff, if not crack/ meth. Given how long the assault lasted and his bizarre jumping around after it.

So how's that Paris bank robbery looking?

You keep bringing this up. Salty much?

Also gotta love how reporting news articles is construed as having an opinion.

Anyway, I'm done now. Back to Voat with you. How's that "winning" going?

andekwarhola

gramar wrote: »

Do traffic accidents in Ireland get reported in the US?

Please stop being obtuse for ideological point-scoring.

The first thing that must have passed through anybody's mind (even people not in either camp in here) was that it had the initial MO of a terrorist attack.

Still tragic, whatever the cause. Not that it matters to most on the ideological battle terrain.

allthedoyles

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Apparently he wasn't drunk, he was on drugs (synthetic marijuana) and planned to kill people and be killed himself by the police. So it was an intentional act. I don't think there were any political motivations though

And they say this K2 drug is been sold in corner stores in usa

gramar

andekwarhola wrote: »

Please stop being obtuse for ideological point-scoring.

The first thing that must have passed through anybody's mind (even people not in either camp in here) was that it had the initial MO of a terrorist attack.

Still tragic, whatever the cause. Not that it matters to most on the ideological battle terrain.

But don't you see that nothing would have passed through anyone's mind if the media hadn't prematurely jumped on the story and given it the slant they were hoping for to fill up loads of column inches. It was relegated to the lower divisions of news stories fairly soon after and rightly so.
Now the headline is 'no terror link in Times Square inicdent'.

gramar

andekwarhola wrote: »

Please stop being obtuse for ideological point-scoring.

The first thing that must have passed through anybody's mind (even people not in either camp in here) was that it had the initial MO of a terrorist attack.

Still tragic, whatever the cause. Not that it matters to most on the ideological battle terrain.

Here's a headline for you....no terror links not terror related but the media couldn't resist sticking the word in none the less...

'Tourist (18) killed in Times Square car terror, as police hold suspect in custody'

Samaris

Nah, I thought it was a terrorist attack too. It fits an MO. It wasn't, thank heavens, but that's no comfort to the family of the dead and the injured people.

Look, I'm sure there will be another terrorist attack and I am just relieved that they are far less common than they used to be as ISIS is being steadily run into a corner. Can we wait until that happens before jumping on the bandwagons?

dadad231

Deleted User wrote: »

What does that have to do with a drunk driver?

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are you trying to make this fit your narrative?

Deleted User wrote: »

So you're saying it wasn't a drunk driver?