Fine Gael's Next Top Model 2017

Skylinehead · 18-05-2017 11:23PM #1

Hi all,

Feel free to discuss Enda stepping down, his legacy, and who'll be Taoiseach next here. It's a big enough event to warrant an AH politics thread, apologies for the delay in allowing it.

18-05-2017 11:28PM

I don't like Fine Gael but he was one of our best Taoisigh ever.

18-05-2017 11:30PM

He was harmless, possibly what was needed after the Ahern and Cowen era.

The next Taoiseach will be Leo. Expect him to be the least "in thrall to the public sector unions" leader in a long time.

Peregrine · 18-05-2017 11:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The next Taoiseach will be Leo.

How can you be sure that FF will allow it?

Jim Bob Scratcher · 18-05-2017 11:31PM

I hope that foreign lad doesn't get it.

18-05-2017 11:34PM

Peregrine wrote: »

How can you be sure that FF will allow it?

I think FF will just play the waiting game. They have little choice, to move on the basis of who FG elect will smack of fear and will enable a new charismatic FG leader go to the polls, say give me a chance, and recoup some of the losses.

BoatMad · 18-05-2017 11:35PM

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

I hope that foreign lad doesn't get it.

ah Cork isnt THAT far away

Beyondgone · 18-05-2017 11:35PM

Varadker sidelined..even on Boards.. "Leadership contest" - not "Gay Taoiseach"..because Ireland isn't getting one. It's getting a Coveney. Lol.

BoatMad · 18-05-2017 11:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't like Fine Gael but he was one of our best Taoisigh ever.

personally I thought him to be gaff prone and ineffectual

please helpThank YOU · 18-05-2017 11:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't like Fine Gael but he was one of our best Taoisigh ever.

Hi Enda is that you:eek:

Balmed Out · 18-05-2017 11:37PM

Two not very appealing candidates.

Leo has always come across to me as someone prone to speaking without thinking and a bit of a parish pump Dublin politician.

Coveney on the other hand is an enigma and I never could understand his popularity within the FG party though of the two I would prefer him.

Would have liked Bruton to have a go but he has been very quiet since the last push and wonder if he has any support or is expecting the next leader to be short lived.

All opening up for Fianna Fail #facepalm

A Battered Mars Bar · 18-05-2017 11:39PM

Kenny was rubbish. Good riddance. Leo just doesn't cut mustard and Coveney hasn't any ham in his sandwiches. We need someone with a crumbed slice of ham between thick crusts of bread and a good dollop of nose piercing mustard spread over.

BoatMad · 18-05-2017 11:40PM

personally as a vote getter , LV is a better choice , and given FG will not be in Gov next time , then the more votes FG get the better

please helpThank YOU · 18-05-2017 11:40PM

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

I hope that foreign lad doesn't get it.

Is that you Simon ?:eek:

BoatMad · 18-05-2017 11:41PM

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

Kenny was rubbish. Good riddance. Leo just doesn't cut mustard and Coveney hasn't any ham in his sandwiches. We need someone with a crumbed slice of ham between thick crusts of bread and a good dollop of nose piercing mustard spread over.

all I could from your post was a desire to make a sandwich,

mzungu · 18-05-2017 11:41PM

Whether it's Leo or Simon, will there be any major change in policy? Doubt it.

Beyondgone · 18-05-2017 11:42PM

BoatMad wrote: »

personally as a vote getter , LV is a better choice , and given FG will not be in Gov next time , then the more votes FG get the better

FG will be in power next time, and Coveney will be heading them up.

FF under Martin are weak in terms of contacts. Contacts matter.

myshirt · 18-05-2017 11:43PM

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

Kenny was rubbish. Good riddance. Leo just doesn't cut mustard and Coveney hasn't any ham in his sandwiches. We need someone with a crumbed slice of ham between thick crusts of bread and a good dollop of nose piercing mustard spread over.

Eat a snickers will you, you turn into a right diva when you're hungry.

please helpThank YOU · 18-05-2017 11:44PM

BoatMad wrote: »

ah Cork isnt THAT far away

Is that you Leo?.:eek:

Books4you · 18-05-2017 11:45PM

I like Leo. Could blag his way out of anything!

On the other hand Covney is a Corkonian. Tis a tough one! The only thing that drives me mad with Covney is anytime I hear him having a debate whether it be on Marian Finucane or Primetime is he talks so slooooooow! For god sakes man, horse on!!

:D

BoatMad · 18-05-2017 11:47PM

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

Is that you Leo?.:eek:

no, but hang on, let me finish shaving , ill get him for you, he's in the bedroom :P

Balmed Out · 18-05-2017 11:47PM

Books4you wrote: »

I like Leo. Could blag his way out of anything! On the other hand Covney is a Corkonian. Tis a tough one! The only thing that drives me mad with Covney is anytime I hear him having a debate whether it be on Marian Finucane or Primetime is he talks so slooooooow! For god sakes man, horse on!! :D

Think he has struggled with a stutter or speech impediment. You can detect a pause as he runs through in his head what hes about to say to make sure it's a correct sentence.

BoatMad · 18-05-2017 11:49PM

Balmed Out wrote: »

Think he has struggled with a stutter or speech impediment. You can detect a pause as he runs through in his head what hes about to say to make sure it's a correct sentence.

or maybe he thinks slowly, Occams Razor applies

Books4you · 18-05-2017 11:52PM

Balmed Out wrote: »

Think he has struggled with a stutter or speech impediment. You can detect a pause as he runs through in his head what hes about to say to make sure it's a correct sentence.

Never noticed that to be honest although that's probably all I'll notice from now on.

Interesting! It obviously works for him but maybe someone should tell poor old Marian Finucane too because It seems to drive her mad too. Always telling him to get to the point!

Poor Simon. Feel bad now!

Balmed Out · 18-05-2017 11:53PM

BoatMad wrote: »

or maybe he thinks slowly, Occams Razor applies

No I have definitely read that he struggled / struggles with a speech impediment or stutter or something along those lines. To be fair once he gets going he is fairly well spoken and his points thought out just not one to be able to spit quick retorts out.

BoatMad · 18-05-2017 11:54PM

When I started in secondary school I had quite a serious stutter. I literally wasn’t able to read out loud and it was one of the reasons why I didn’t do well in languages. I wasn’t able to do oral exams very well. If I’m reading Irish, it’s still difficult. French is a bit easier because it’s just an easier language to speak in terms of getting words out. Luckily for me, I’ve learned how to cope with it.

does seem like he has an issue

Beyondgone · 18-05-2017 11:55PM

Books4you wrote: »

Never noticed that to be honest although that's probably all I'll notice from now on. Interesting! It obviously works for him but maybe someone should tell poor old Marian Finucane too because It seems to drive her mad too. Always telling him to get to the point! Poor Simon. Feel bad now!

Play up a trivial weakness..garner sympathy..lull them into a sense of false security.

Blimey, this is playing out by the book.

Knock into PP - stick a tenner on Coveney. His crowd have every base covered.

please helpThank YOU · 18-05-2017 11:56PM

BoatMad wrote: »

no, but hang on, let me finish shaving , ill get him for you, he's in the bedroom :P

Hi Leo do you want to come over and watch a movie at mine whats it called Leo ask me`Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.:p

BoatMad · 18-05-2017 11:57PM

Beyondgone wrote: »

Play up a trivial weakness..garner sympathy..lull them into a sense of false security.

Blimey, this is playing out by the book.

Knock into PP - stick a tenner on Coveney. His crowd have every base covered.

really sad, that we have descended into this level of cynicism in this state

Balmed Out · 18-05-2017 11:57PM

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/miriam-meets/programmes/2010/0228/346759-280210/

"The reality was I had a speech impediment. I had a stutter. Literally until I was 15 or 16 year of age, I could not string two or three sentences together. I remember breaking pencils under the desk in frustration when trying to read as Gaeilge in Irish class.

But you learn to cope with these things. I subconsciously think two or three sentences ahead and I will subconsciously choose a vocabulary that allows the speech to flow."

satguy · 19-05-2017 12:04AM

History will mark Enda down as the worst Taoiseach we ever had.
The news papers will tell us how well Ireland did while Enda was Taoiseach in spite of his and Fianna Fail's ineptitude.

He spent his frist 20 years as a TD just making up the numbers, or being banished to the Gaeltacht.

It's a sorry state when even crooks (CJ) and wasters (BA) are held in higher esteem then you are, poor old Enda !

I suppose there is one good thing about Enda finally taking the hint, and that is he is taking Noonan with him.

Fine Gael's Next Top Model 2017

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