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  • #32
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    If people read the article properly they will realise that he was award for actually being in an accident and having his car written off.

    He was not compensated for his exaggerated claims and the court took account of his psychiatrist condition when dealing with the case.

    I really don't see what the issue is.


  • #33
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    murpho999 wrote: »
    If people read the article properly they will realise that he was award for actually being in an accident and having his car written off.

    He was not compensated for his exaggerated claims and the court took account of his psychiatrist condition when dealing with the case.

    I really don't see what the issue is.

    The award isn't for the car that was written off.

    He was awarded damages for injuries he suffered in the accident - even though Judge Groarke said Mr McCormack had given false and misleading evidence and had sought to mislead the medical profession almost at every turn and a consultant of emergency medicine said Mr McCormack had been “grossly inventive” of his symptomology and condition - because the judge felt sorry for him because of his psychiatric history.

    So is everyone that has a history of depression allowed to try and screw the system and get away with it now?


  • #34
    big b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭big b


    thebaz wrote: »
    Thought this kind of nonsense was getting under control - 18k payout and this entertainer blatantly lied about an accident with unidentified driver - 4th visit to the well of compensation - shame on Judge Groarke for falling for such lies and his make-believe sob story sprinkled with Elvis and Bowie - Walter Mitty more like it. It just seams so wrong to me.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/singer-who-gave-false-and-misleading-evidence-awarded-18k-over-traffic-incident-35716504.html

    Sew it does now


  • #35
    biscuithead
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 157 ✭✭biscuithead


    thomas 123 wrote: »
    True , however if we lie down and take the "****e" just see how long it takes to turn into not a great place to live.
    If we all took the bend over attitude as i call it, the place would not be long falling in around us
    sorry in advance for the potential off topic reply!

    If you recall when the (deliberately manufactured) crash of 2007 and 2008 hit and then international fincancial vultures like the IMF moved in to force countries to slash public spending and social programs in order to shift the public money into the private hands of their friends they also forced countries to sell off public assets to private interests at firesale prices. One of those assets was the very water you drink. 100's of 1000's of Irish people flatly refused to be fleeced, while many others just sat their like a rabbit being tracked by a stoat and derided the ones who refused this latest scam as freeloaders.

    Which side of the equation were you on?


  • #36
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    And then you have Kenny giving away the LE Ashling for 1/6 of its value. Should be tried for treason

    It was an open auctions wasn't it? Not a lot could be done there.


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  • #37
    biscuithead
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 157 ✭✭biscuithead


    Game Face MCGee wrote: »
    he faked injuries, he hobbled into a doc surgery like a man on deaths door on crutches. Was followed out of the surgery by a PI and was observed not using crutches and walking normally and performing every day tasks with no issues. the judge has set a precedent now, you can be caught faking and still get your pay out. it was his 4th pay out.
    I wish no luck to this scammer

    He wasn't compensated for faked injuries. Why don't you take the time to ascertain the facts before exploding in blind rage?


  • #38
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    It was an open auctions wasn't it? Not a lot could be done there.

    Do a bit of basic research, put a minimum value on it and don't sell it if it fails to reach that minimum. Not really that hard to do.


  • #39
    biscuithead
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 157 ✭✭biscuithead


    big b wrote: »
    Sew it does now


    Darn it! It was a stitch up.


  • #40
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    scamalert wrote: »
    every 4th topic on AH is about this banana republic, housing issues, bubble never happened, motor issues, tax issues, corruption all the way to the government, large corporations and whoever trips over a can wants a piece of pie, joke of a country its becoming.

    AH needs more stories about sex sticks and hairy vageens and stop this banana republic nonsense.


  • #41
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    And then you have Kenny giving away the LE Ashling for 1/6 of its value. Should be tried for treason

    This, I think, is the most idiotic post I've ever read on boards.
    Do you actually think that the Taoiseach should be personally involved in the sale of every piece of equipment that the state disposes of?

    And 'treason'? What in the name of jaysus were you thinking when you typed that!!


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  • #42
    please helpThank YOU
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    This poor Man has a background of Psychiatric depressive history in his life . So in law he is covered if he gives misleading evidence as the poor man is not well . that is the law of the land.


  • #43
    please helpThank YOU
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Just read the newspaper story again . Something concerns me about this case. Robert McQuillan consultant blackrock clinic. Mr McQuillan said he move a lot of grimacing and groaning. He said later he had viewed footage? of of a video taken 45 minutes after mr McCormack had left his clinic by private detective on behalf of the MIBI . Is later the same day he viewed the footage ? A video footage does not prove this man was not injured our pain he was in a car crash that is fact.


  • #44
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    please helpThank YOU wrote: »
    Just read the newspaper story again . Something concerns me about this case. Robert McQuillan consultant blackrock clinic. Mr McQuillan said he move a lot of grimacing and groaning. He said later he had viewed footage? of of a video taken 45 minutes after mr McCormack had left his clinic by private detective on behalf of the MIBI . Is later the same day he viewed the footage ? A video footage does not prove this man was not injured our pain he was in a car crash that is fact.

    The video footage - of Mr McCormack walking unaided and bending over to get into his car without any problem - proved that he was lying to the consultant about the pain he was in - he said he was permanently crippled by the accident and came into the examination room leaning on a walking stick.


  • #45
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,202 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    gramar wrote: »
    Like the Angelus.

    yerra that doesn't quite fit into the 'random' category at all


  • #46
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,202 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    The award isn't for the car that was written off.

    He was awarded damages for injuries he suffered in the accident - even though Judge Groarke said Mr McCormack had given false and misleading evidence and had sought to mislead the medical profession almost at every turn and a consultant of emergency medicine said Mr McCormack had been “grossly inventive” of his symptomology and condition - because the judge felt sorry for him because of his psychiatric history.

    So is everyone that has a history of depression allowed to try and screw the system and get away with it now?

    So a mentally ill man gets injured in a car crash - goes a bit Walter Mitty on the details then the state should wash their hands of him?


  • #47
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,227 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    please helpThank YOU wrote: »
    This Poor Man has Mental Health Problems and he was in a car crash and he got 18 k . I do not see where this Man did any Wrong in Law?. More Luck to the Man .

    The majority of people with mental health problems , don't make spurious claims - most people with mental health issues are honest. This case just seams so wrong to me , the guy was on hist 4th trip to the compensation well.


  • #48
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,202 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    thebaz wrote: »
    The majority of people with mental health problems , don't make spurious claims - most people with mental health issues are honest. This case just seams so wrong to me , the guy was on hist 4th trip to the compensation well.

    another one


  • #49
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    lawred2 wrote: »
    So a mentally ill man gets injured in a car crash - goes a bit Walter Mitty on the details then the state should wash their hands of him?

    If he's been found to be lying about the extent of his injuries and is knowingly engaging in fraudulent behaviour then yeah.


  • #50
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,202 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    If he's been found to be lying about the extent of his injuries and is knowingly engaging in fraudulent behaviour then yeah.

    yeah well you see - that's the thing with mentally ill people - can you be sure that everything they do is done so 'knowingly' as you and I would do things 'knowingly'?


  • #51
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,227 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    lawred2 wrote: »
    another one

    the grammar police of boards are on duty - well spotted


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  • #52
    please helpThank YOU
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    thebaz wrote: »
    The majority of people with mental health problems , don't make spurious claims - most people with mental health issues are honest. This case just seams so wrong to me , the guy was on hist 4th trip to the compensation well.
    Compensation well in Ireland? he had 4 personal injury claims? if the man had 100 personal injury claims and the where all 100 percent legitimate that is the man right in under Irish law.


  • #53
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    lawred2 wrote: »
    yeah well you see - that's the thing with mentally ill people - can you be sure that everything they do is done so 'knowingly' as you and I would do things 'knowingly'?

    Tbf, we don't know the mental history of the man, but he had the presence of mind to lie to doctors about his injuries for financial gain and I don't think he should be rewarded for it.


  • #54
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,227 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    please helpThank YOU wrote: »
    Compensation well in Ireland? he had 4 personal injury claims? if the man had 100 personal injury claims and the where all 100 percent legitimate that is the man right in under Irish law.

    can't speak for the other cases - but 4 trips to compensation courts seams a lot to me - most people I know have never been - and this case certainly did not seam 100 % legit judging by evidence.


  • #55
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,202 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Tbf, we don't know the mental history of the man, but he had the presence of mind to lie to doctors about his injuries for financial gain and I don't think he should be rewarded for it.

    well that's just the same point again...

    can you be sure that a mentally ill man has 'presence of mind'?

    I don't know personally.. Could be that his mental illness is a fabrication for benefits.. Who knows? I don't know enough. I do know that I'm not going to lose too much sleep about an award of 18k..


  • #56
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,202 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    seriously - the word is 'seem'


  • #57
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    lawred2 wrote: »
    well that's just the same point again...

    can you be sure that a mentally ill man has 'presence of mind'?

    I don't know personally.. Could be that his mental illness is a fabrication for benefits.. Who knows? I don't know enough. I do know that I'm not going to lose too much sleep about an award of 18k..

    Yeah, tbf, I don't really give a shít about it myself. There's far worse miscarriages of justice out there…


  • #58
    please helpThank YOU
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    I was in court as a Witness to Artic Truck Crash with a car in which a man lost four fingers in the accident. and in court the insurance companies solicitors told the man who lost four fingers that his claim was exaggerated and he was put on the pain.


  • #59
    Liam McPoyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    There is no compensation culture in this country.

    It is insurance companies fault that premiums have risen.


  • #60
    please helpThank YOU
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    thebaz wrote: »
    can't speak for the other cases - but 4 trips to compensation courts seams a lot to me - most people I know have never been - and this case certainly did not seam 100 % legit judging by evidence.
    Some people are `accident prone and very unlucky . Some people might win the lottery 4 times and are very lucky. That is life my friend.


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  • #61
    thomas 123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    biscuithead wrote: »
    If you recall when the (deliberately manufactured) crash of 2007 and 2008 hit and then international fincancial vultures like the IMF moved in to force countries to slash public spending and social programs in order to shift the public money into the private hands of their friends they also forced countries to sell off public assets to private interests at firesale prices. One of those assets was the very water you drink. 100's of 1000's of Irish people flatly refused to be fleeced, while many others just sat their like a rabbit being tracked by a stoat and derided the ones who refused this latest scam as freeloaders.

    Which side of the equation were you on?

    At the time I was a student, I had a stay at home mum and a father employed by the private sector(factory), trust me I felt the pinch then with college which I could not afford at the time so left in year 2. Now again i feel the pinch while earning good money a vast majority of it goes to rent...

    ^That was just to answer your question.


    I'd be massively critical of those whop take the "Sure it could be worse attitude" and I am in 100% in agreement with your facts above.


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