Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

Everyone knows we were blessed over the last 16 years with that batch of players that came at the same time,it probably won't be seen again and to win 11 all irelands since the year 2000 is unbelievable.imagine what the likes of Limerick,waterford or galway would do for one.
We know fogarty has dipped a bit last year and murphy hasn't being himself since last september but the truth is we've no one better to replace these if their form slips.We had no bench at all last year especially with fennelly and alyward out but at least in this year's league young lads have got gametime and some have done better than others and fennelly and alyward should be back soon to strengthen the panel hopefully

Best of luck to the minors tomorrow,christy walsh is over laois.I think kk have a few injury concerns

Laois led dublin for alot of their game.hopefully we can get through and the minors will get a summer hurling.

KilkennySupporter (@Kilkenny_GAA) tweeted at 4:22 PM on Sat, May 13, 2017:
Leinster MHC (FT) Laois 0-9 Kilkenny 6-21
(https://twitter.com/Kilkenny_GAA/status/863414163233808385?s=09)

That was close!

Final v dubs who bt wex.hopefully get revenge for last year.

KK were up by 1-8 to 0-6 at ht having played against a very strong wind, the goal coming from Adrian Mullen after an excellent run. Seems a very good prospect, strong off both sides. Laois had a player sent off for a second yellow card early in the second half, thought it was harsh. They also conceded a couple of soft goals. Tommy Ronan and Darragh Walsh seem like your typical tigerish corner backs. Michael Carey made some good clearances, got caught out of position once. Jordan Molloy is very good in the air for a small fellow. Conor Flynn is your old style centre back, good in the air but maybe a bit slower. I thought Niall Brassil played very well at midfield. Sean Ryan got some nice scores as did a number of the forwards as space opened up. I think KK will have to work a bit on their touch and decision making but they are now guaranteed at least two more matches with a decent chance of winning Leinster.

dubcat51 wrote: »

Outside of mullen who are the most promising minors this year?

For me, Niall Brassil at midfield and Jordan Molloy at wing back are good prospects. Looks a decent team but time will tell.

unrealtime wrote: »

Paul Murphy andConor Fogarty are fine players - Murphy a brilliant and deserved All Star and Fogarty overlooked - and have been undermined by stupid and pointless experimentation during the league.

How is experimentation during the league pointless? its a glorified preseason competition which has been somehow won by teams from the second division in the last 3 years, its only benifit to Kilkenny is that it offers the chance to test new players and formations, even when we have won it over the last few years we have either needed to make big changes by the end of the Leinster championship or have have had a poor championship like 2013.

Topcat32 wrote: »

unrealtime wrote: »

Paul Murphy andConor Fogarty are fine players - Murphy a brilliant and deserved All Star and Fogarty overlooked - and have been undermined by stupid and pointless experimentation during the league.

How is experimentation during the league pointless? its a glorified preseason competition which has been somehow won by teams from the second division in the last 3 years, its only benifit to Kilkenny is that it offers the chance to test new players and formations, even when we have won it over the last few years we have either needed to make big changes by the end of the Leinster championship or have have had a poor championship like 2013.

You might as well be shouting up a cows hole as trying to argue with this lad on this point.

An articulate plus 1 from me

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Any word on Padraig Walsh this week-end? 4 weeks yesterday to the big game. Bit of time left yet!

Id say he'll start, ger alyward and kevin kelly expected to line out next weekend. Mick Fennelly back in contact training aswell.hopefully no fresh injuries between now and the 10th

Why?

unrealtime wrote:

I would hope that Jas Stephens are suspended from the football championship for some years

Doubt it would bother/affect them unfortunately. Or most clubs in the county. My own club are in and out of it every few years. It's just too much of a struggle for us to get 15 lads on the pitch. No one wants to play

I think what happened with the football is unfortunate but it begs a wider question in my opinion.

Why is there any obligation to play football at all?

As both sports have evolved in the last 20 years the differences have grown at an incredible rate. It was once the case that there were a fair amount of skills that crossed over between the two sports but this is less and less the case in the modern games.

It is almost archaic to ask someone to play a sport they have zero interest in just because the same association runs both sports, I mean can you imagine that the same federation ran Soccer and rugby in Ireland and teams were obligated to play both.

In my opinion, the sooner the GAA and each county create separate boards designed to look at each sport the better, of course these boards can work together for fixtures etc but having hurling men running football and football men running hurling just does not work and leads to situations like yesterdays. By forcing clubs to enter competitions it leads to teams withdrawing/ giving walkovers etc. At least if we take away the obligation, only teams that actually want to play might enter and there will be less walkovers etc.

I know there's an important round of club matches next weekend and the village have the shamrocks but surely with the population of their club they could of fielded some kinda team?
I see where kerry played club football today while their hurlers were playing the biggest match of the year against laois
Theres no appetite for football in kk especially when the hurling season is up and running,dj is now involved with the U16s and they beat wexford and antrim recently so maybe there's work being done at grassroot level