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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822
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Got taken out on the way home this evening
Just scratches on me but the front wheel went under the back wheels of a left turning van, buckled, crushed, and about half the spokes snapped. Very "lucky" all things considered.
The spidey-sense I mentioned earlier in the thread completely failed me. Driver indicated just as I drew level with the back of the van and just as he turned. He was slowing, but there was slow moving traffic ahead so I assumed it was for that, and he was turning into a lane way across a path rather than at a larger junction.
Most annoying part was his attitude. Got out, asked was I ok and when I said I'd need his details, he said "Why? Sure you cycled into me." So called the gardai, waited about 20 mins and he started getting twitchy and offering cash. Even when I showed him the footage he couldn't see the problem. Gardai said they couldn't do much, it's a civil matter, didn't seem too bothered by the driving or his attitude that he'd done nothing wrong.
I stupidly just wanted to get home so took cash for the damage, again when I told him how much it would be, he started the sob story that he has 5 kids, etc, etc. Gardai gave me a lift to LBS with the bike, thankfully my estimate was about right.
Even after just 2 hours, I'm already kicking myself for not getting an estimate first and insurance details, should have done it properly. But in the situation I got some fright and just wanted to sort it and get home.0 -
Got taken out on the way home this evening Just scratches on me but the front wheel went under the back wheels of a left turning van, buckled, crushed, and about half the spokes snapped. Very "lucky" all things considered.
The spidey-sense I mentioned earlier in the thread completely failed me. Driver indicated just as I drew level with the back of the van and just as he turned. He was slowing, but there was slow moving traffic ahead so I assumed it was for that, and he was turning into a lane way across a path rather than at a larger junction.
Most annoying part was his attitude. Got out, asked was I ok and when I said I'd need his details, he said "Why? Sure you cycled into me." So called the gardai, waited about 20 mins and he started getting twitchy and offering cash. Even when I showed him the footage he couldn't see the problem. Gardai said they couldn't do much, it's a civil matter, didn't seem too bothered by the driving or his attitude that he'd done nothing wrong.
I stupidly just wanted to get home so took cash for the damage, again when I told him how much it would be, he started the sob story that he has 5 kids, etc, etc. Gardai gave me a lift to LBS with the bike, thankfully my estimate was about right.
Even after just 2 hours, I'm already kicking myself for not getting an estimate first and insurance details, should have done it properly. But in the situation I got some fright and just wanted to sort it and get home.
That's ****.
It's hard to do it right with the adrenaline pumping after something like that.
Did the guards not ask him to present his details within 10 days? Thought that was standard practice for RTCs.
Similar, though not as bad, happened to me once. Car turned left into an entrance way, I managed to go with him but ended up in a flowerpot. Thankfully no damage done.
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amcalester wrote: »Did the guards not ask him to present his details within 10 days? Thought that was standard practice for RTCs.
Yeah he has to, but the money he gave me covers a new mavic askium wheel and bar tape. Thankfully there was nothing else wrong according to LBS that I didn't notice at the time. It was more his attitude afterwards.
Rewatching the video, I can just see his indicator come on as it goes out of frame. It's a wide angle lens, I certainly didn't see it in my peripheral vision and it was so late coming on there was little I could do. He does veer towards the cycle lane too tho, should have spotted that If it had of been dry I probably would have been going at a faster pace. Worryingly too I can see he keeps going in the lane way, so glad it wasn't my leg under his wheel.
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Got taken out on the way home this evening Just scratches on me but the front wheel went under the back wheels of a left turning van, buckled, crushed, and about half the spokes snapped. Very "lucky" all things considered.
The spidey-sense I mentioned earlier in the thread completely failed me. Driver indicated just as I drew level with the back of the van and just as he turned. He was slowing, but there was slow moving traffic ahead so I assumed it was for that, and he was turning into a lane way across a path rather than at a larger junction.
Sorry to read this. The main thing is you were not seriously injured. Being mindful and a mind reader is nigh on impossible all the time. Sometimes your luck or skill deserts you. Wrong time -wrong place. One of the worlds greatest mountaineers was killed two weeks ago in Nepal...survival is not a perfect science.
He sounds like a dcik. Do you not have the reg on film? You can request his insurance details from Dublin County Council (if you say it relates to an accident) or ask the Garda if they can help, saying you have medical bills? If you say you are hurt, they have to follow it up.
I see you have video up. You were very lucky. Had you been a second or two earlier you were potentially under the reare wheels. Totally careless and driving without due care and attention. Definitely report that to Terenure Garda. An ambulance does not have to be called to the scene for you to claim injury. You could wake tomorrow with a sore back, neck , leg. Get yourself checked out and get yourself to the station.0 -
Got a picture please?sy_flembeck wrote: »Don't give up. Whenever I wear my Stayin Alive gilet the difference it makes is absolutely extraordinary-which is ironically irritating as it means when people know they're being recorded they drive properly. I've never, ever had a close call while wearing it.
The difference between the jersey and the gilet is that the back of the gilet tells others I'm recording my journey while the jersey doesn't (IIRC)Probably the best safety message on a T-shirt is a giant pair of eyes - humans are coded to notice staring eyes.
If this was on the back, not the front, and if the eyes were staring towards drivers, it would be ideal.
I'd love to get a jacket or hi-vis vest with an A3 plastic wallet on the back, so I could swap in / out A3 size sheets with appropriate messages, like 'Put The Fu****g Phone Down' or similar0 -
Yeah he has to, but the money he gave me covers a new mavic askium wheel and bar tape. Thankfully there was nothing else wrong according to LBS that I didn't notice at the time. It was more his attitude afterwards.
Rewatching the video, I can just see his indicator come on as it goes out of frame. It's a wide angle lens, I certainly didn't see it in my peripheral vision and it was so late coming on there was little I could do. He does veer towards the cycle lane too tho, should have spotted that If it had of been dry I probably would have been going at a faster pace. Worryingly too I can see he keeps going in the lane way, so glad it wasn't my leg under his wheel.
**** hope you're okay, that was a rough one. I cycle that road regularly in and out of town.
Van driver was completely in the wrong - seriously how could anyone think any different?? Indicates as he swings left, has he ever heard of using his mirrors? You know: Mirror - Signal - Mirror - Manoeuvre...
You should send it onto Sticky Bottle and Stayin Alive at 1.5 on Facebook, try raise some awareness of how worse that could have been for you - drivers need to be more aware and considerate..0 -
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FizzleSticks wrote: »No way, you were in the same bike shop as me dropping your bike off this afternoon. I overheard someone saying their wheel went under a van, yikes. Glad to hear you're okay. I am always very cautious and was knocked down by a driver who started moving off after stopping in traffic and plowed into me in the cycle lane so no matter how careful you are sometimes there's no avoiding it. And she screamed at me too, that she was turning and had her indicators on :rolleyes:
It sounds like you escaped that without injury and got enough cash off him for the repairs on the most part? Then its probably for the best you didn't have to deal with insurance companies treating you like you were in the wrong, thats the experience I had (of course they don't want to pay up) and endless back and forth of letters. Its a frustrating experience, the driver is the one in the wrong but there's no justice. They'd get in more trouble for picking up their phone in their car than for knocking someone over.
I don't think I know anyone who cycles a lot who hasn't had these kinds of experiences, scary isn't it!
I've been cycling that route for 12 years and that's the second accident I've ever been in. Not sure if it's a good thing that my initial reaction is that that's not bad? Plenty of near misses and stupidity out there but, you're right, you can't avoid it forever.
Yeah the cash covers all the damage perfectly and I've been putting getting off a needed headset anyway so that's being done at the same time. Just need to pick it up tomorrow and get out for a spin asap before the fear sets in
To be honest, I've had a really ****ty 18 months, with lots of insurance/hospital crap, and things are finally looking up recently, so the last thing I wanted was more claims/letters etc, and just to get reimbursed for the damage and go home.0 -
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Yeah he has to, but the money he gave me covers a new mavic askium wheel and bar tape. Thankfully there was nothing else wrong according to LBS that I didn't notice at the time. It was more his attitude afterwards.
Rewatching the video, I can just see his indicator come on as it goes out of frame. It's a wide angle lens, I certainly didn't see it in my peripheral vision and it was so late coming on there was little I could do. He does veer towards the cycle lane too tho, should have spotted that If it had of been dry I probably would have been going at a faster pace. Worryingly too I can see he keeps going in the lane way, so glad it wasn't my leg under his wheel.
Exactly what happened to me yesterday only we just managed not to collide. He came into the cycle lane, began to turn and then indicated. Not how indicators are meant to be used. Driver was completely in the wrong - there is no way you could have known he was going to turn left.0 -
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I've been cycling that route for 12 years and that's the second accident I've ever been in. Not sure if it's a good thing that my initial reaction is that that's not bad? Plenty of near misses and stupidity out there but, you're right, you can't avoid it forever.
Yeah the cash covers all the damage perfectly and I've been putting getting off a needed headset anyway so that's being done at the same time. Just need to pick it up tomorrow and get out for a spin asap before the fear sets in
To be honest, I've had a really ****ty 18 months, with lots of insurance/hospital crap, and things are finally looking up recently, so the last thing I wanted was more claims/letters etc, and just to get reimbursed for the damage and go home.
Glad it wasn't too serious for you, but let's stop calling them 'accidents'
http://www.crashnotaccident.com/0 -
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Crazy that an incident like that gets no kind of attention from the guards, would the same be said if he knocked down a pedestrian? I don't get the attitude towards cyclists, that really was clean cut case of not driving with due care , he couldn't have checked his mirrors, or did and wanted to put you against the side of his van..
Glad to hear you're ok, What is the correct procedure if you're taken out like this? For future reference
Call Guards, Get insurance details ,Get repair estimate, Go doctor , make claim?0 -
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