The Guardian's 'we hate white people' agenda backfires spectacularly today...

wes wrote: »

You have any proof of the story not being true or any actual reason to doubt it? Also, pretty much all papers mess up, its pretty common, doesn't say whether this story is false or not.

The Independent didn't "mess up" they accused people of being White Nationalists when they were not. Since white racism is probably the most serious accusation you make against a person today, newspapers throwing it glibly at conservatives cannot be taken seriously.

I don't take the article seriously because it is clearly part of a narrative. The juxtaposition was clear, that those who favour the current policies of multiculturalism and mass immigration were represented by the girl scout, while those who feel these policies are in error are represented by screaming Neo Nazis.

In a comparison of moral authority between Neo Nazis and Girl Scouts, obviously the Girl Scout will win every time - this is as it should be.

No effort was made to highlight the bad people promoting the progressive liberal consensus, nor the people other than neo Nazis that are against it.

In isolation this wouldn't be so bad, but with most of the media leaning left and pushing a similar narrative, it should be treated with suspicion.

Your talking complete nonsense. I never mentioned the "right" at all, and the post I replied to referred to the "alt-right". Now a reasonable person, would conclude that I was referring to the "alt-right" and not the "right" in general.

The line between "right" and "alt-right" is blurred. For example, is Milo Yiannopolous right, or alt-right? He would call himself the former, but is often accused of the latter, for my part, I think the former (libertarian conservative rather than alt right). Where does "right" end and "alt-right" begin?
Posting Kek memes?
Posting MAGA memes?
Actual racism?

Your link doesn't actually prove your point. Firstly you would need to provides stats on all political violence and then identify what there politics are.

Try organising a college speaking tour for Ben Shapiro, Milo Yiannopolous, Ann Coulter etc and see how the violence compares. I guarantee you it would be a lot easier to organise such a tour for a someone on the Left. It would be easier to get on campus as a Jew hating Hamas supporter than a conservative.

BTW, you falsely accused me of lumping the "right" into one homegenous group, and you have literally just did the exact same thing by referring to a generic homgenous "left". I have to say its astonishing to accuse me of something falsely, and do exactly that in the same post.

The left sees in the right a mirror of itself. Hateful, lacking in any diversity, that's why it treats people like Richard Spencer in a similar way to Ben Shapiro.

The "right" has diverse groups that have often radically contradictory views:
1) Libertarian-conservatives
2) Social conservatives
3) Actual racists, who are usually hated by the first two groups.

Milo would be a libertarian conservative, he can't stop talking about his black boyfriends. Ben Shapiro is more of a traditional conservative, and has explicitly stated his view that racism is evil. Yet both are harassed by Left routinely as though they were part of some homogeneous group that includes nutters like David Icke.

The Left on the other hand does not have this diversity. Most of the leftists I know agree on key points:

1. That man made climate change is real, BUT nuclear energy must not be used to combat it under any circumstances. Punitive taxes, sky high energy costs and wasting money on windmills and solar panels are the only acceptable solutions. Nuclear power plants should be decommissioned and replaced with fossil fuels if necessary.
2. There is a need for Feminism, gender quotas in some areas. Many also believe in concepts like patriarchy, rape culture and so on.
3. Multiculturalism and high/unlimited immigration.
4. Israel is evil.

You will hear people on the right disagreeing with others also allegedly on the right, but you won't hear for example, people on the left saying stuff like "Gays should marry if they want, but we should respect the beliefs of Christian bakery owners (for example) who choose not to participate" or "maybe Patriarchy isn't actually a thing" or "nuclear power might be a useful tool in the fight against climate change" or, "I disagree with what Milo, Ann, Ben etc have to say but they have a right to speak without interruption/violence by quasi-fascists" or "I think the Israel/Palestine situation is complicated with good and bad on both sides".

Yeah, and you will find far right (you see not singling out the right in general, ... Dylan Rouf shooting up a church, and that just the stuff off the top of my head.

I remember the Dylan Roof case very well, I have friends/family in the US some of them Left some of the Right, and some of the strongest outrage came from the one on the hard right, his view was something like "too bad the worshipers in the church didn't have guns they could have taken down this piece of trash. Hope they fry the bastard".