Eurovision

skankkuvhima · 12-05-2017 07:26AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

The Israeli lead singer was super hot!:D Thats why they qualified I reckon.

Our entry was very bland. The young lad gave it all he had but it wasn't enough. We need to start selecting much better songs going forward.

We say this every year but nothing changes. Has anyone done better than Jedward since 2011? Sad state of affairs if not

gramar · 12-05-2017 07:35AM

I only saw a a few seconds of each of the 10 songs that got through last night.
They were all absolutely dire. I haven't heard the Irish one but could it have been any worse? It's boils down to countries getting through by having the least shíttiest song. God can only imagine the other songs that didn't even make the competition.

VinLieger · 12-05-2017 08:07AM

Mutant z wrote: »

Is there any real point to the Eurovision, it seems a complete waste of time.

Could be said about anything on tv tbh.

I enjoy it due to its ridiculousness

Samaris · 12-05-2017 08:28AM

Eurovision is entertaining to watch, especially with a really snarky commentator. Wonder what my chances of ambushing my partner into watching the final with me is (low).

But why does Ireland keep sending in the same songs year on year? We need another "The Voice", a song that was actually good and sung by a powerful voice rather than popcrap. If only to have a song that wasn't either relying on being radio-lite rubbish or just bat**** insane, which is the other category of Eurovision songs.

Anyone got any memorable ones? The Voice, Ruslana's Wild Dances, Lordi (who were a brilliantly crazy choice). I liked that Only Teardrops one from last year/year before too. The singer did a good job of it. I also liked the contra-tenor vampire with the dancing gold people. The song was terrible, but he could do some impressive things with his voice.

Ash.J.Williams · 12-05-2017 08:34AM

indioblack wrote: »

So they've a good chance, then?

the wrong kind of awful sadly!

Yamanoto · 12-05-2017 08:35AM

VinLieger wrote: »

Could be said about anything on tv tbh.

I enjoy it due to its ridiculousness

When you look at the sheer scale of the production, the logistics involved in its staging & the fact EBU members across the continent essentially devote three nights to the broadcast of the show, I'm struggling to think of another event where the end product plumbs such depths of utterly meaningless banality.

I'd rather sit through an Ard Fheis tbh.

Samaris · 12-05-2017 08:44AM

All things considered, I'd be disappointed if it was cancelled. When you think about it, it's kinda awesome - all these countries, half of them hating each other in the outside world, singing at each other for a couple of nights when much of Europe tunes in to slag each other off and Americans bitch about the internet being focussed on non-American stuff for a couple of days a year. It's extremely harmless international fun, especially when you take into account that most of Europe's "international fun" historically includes invading each other (actually, is pretty much historically composed of invading each other).

It's a good tradition. By turns daft, awful, stuck a couple of decades ago and occasionally with vampires, demons and Xena showing up. Long live it, say I!

(And the Americans can just cope with not being the centre of the internet for a couple of days)

Glenster · 12-05-2017 09:06AM

Its pointless and boring as sh*t.

But I wouldn't ban it.

If you don't like it don't watch it.

Strong Life in Dublin · 12-05-2017 10:45AM

Samaris wrote: »

All things considered, I'd be disappointed if it was cancelled. When you think about it, it's kinda awesome - all these countries, half of them hating each other in the outside world, singing at each other for a couple of nights when much of Europe tunes in to slag each other off and Americans bitch about the internet being focussed on non-American stuff for a couple of days a year. It's extremely harmless international fun, especially when you take into account that most of Europe's "international fun" historically includes invading each other (actually, is pretty much historically composed of invading each other).

It's a good tradition. By turns daft, awful, stuck a couple of decades ago and occasionally with vampires, demons and Xena showing up. Long live it, say I!

(And the Americans can just cope with not being the centre of the internet for a couple of days)

I think the eurovision is a waste of money to enter, rte seem to be strapped for cash these days..

Cee-Jay-Cee · 12-05-2017 10:50AM

We'll never have a hope when all we sent was a spotty teenager with really bad hair and whose voice has yet to break and gave him a shíte song to sing (one which hopefully we'll never hear again as it's so dull and awful)

I do however understand whoever is in charge) doesn't actually want to win as it costs so much to host it hence the reason we sent the sporty teen to represent us.

Shurimgreat · 12-05-2017 11:01AM

Louis Walsh + Bland Song + Average Singer + little or no effort gone into stage show = early exit.

I wouldn't ban Eurovision but I would ban Louis Walsh from having any input.

If we want to do well, it will take a national effort bringing together the best and brightest. Leaving it to Louis to come up with something just won't cut it.

Ash.J.Williams · 12-05-2017 11:08AM

To compete in the Eurovision again ( we haven't "competed" in years) we need to forget the past and rebuild the entire process. Unfortunately that means removing a lot of people that only have their own interests at heart. Kill the rot and start afresh. All we do lately is send someone to sing a song.

Shurimgreat · 12-05-2017 11:11AM

There's some brilliant tech wizzes and animators working in Dublin at the moment, some working on Hollywood movies. They should be involved. An impressive stage show would be a good start.

Ash.J.Williams · 12-05-2017 11:13AM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

There's some brilliant tech wizzes and animators working in Dublin at the moment, some working on Hollywood movies. They should be involved. An impressive stage show would be a good start.

I have a feeling it's down to a few dinosaurs and RTE, On the late late show they were giving the impression that johnny logan is going to save the day next year. That just shows they are not "getting it".

retro:electro · 12-05-2017 11:45AM

Ireland need to take off these rose tinted specs and wake the fcuk up. We are a laughing stock. I guarantee you if we were ever to host we'd do some Riverdance crap again. We need to move on. Who on earth thought this song was a good idea? It's literally one of the worst songs I've ever heard in my life. We need to move with the times and stop with the retrospective romantic perspective because it is not working. The contest isn't the problem, we are.

Linda, Jonny, Louis et al have given themselves authority on the Eurovision here. Without that, Johnny and Linda would have no relevance and wouldn't be able to pop up year on year and reminisce on the good old days. They need to pass the buck now and give up the ghost.

Richard Hillman · 12-05-2017 11:52AM

I'm not down with a Guardian/Huffington Posts lingo but was this individual supposed to stand out because he was gender neutral? or whatever way the individual describes oneself?

I just get the impression that they wanted to try and appeal to Guardian/Huffington Post types.

Ash.J.Williams · 12-05-2017 12:06PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I'm not down with a Guardian/Huffington Posts lingo but was this individual supposed to stand out because he was gender neutral? or whatever way the individual describes oneself?

I just get the impression that they wanted to try and appeal to Guardian/Huffington Post types.

that's just modern nonsense

Ash.J.Williams · 12-05-2017 12:08PM

anna080 wrote: »

Ireland need to take off these rose tinted specs and wake the fcuk up. We are a laughing stock. I guarantee you if we were ever to host we'd do some Riverdance crap again. We need to move on. Who on earth thought this song was a good idea? It's literally one of the worst songs I've ever heard in my life. We need to move with the times and stop with the retrospective romantic perspective because it is not working. The contest isn't the problem, we are.

Linda, Jonny, Louis et al have given themselves authority on the Eurovision here. Without that, Johnny and Linda would have no relevance and wouldn't be able to pop up year on year and reminisce on the good old days. They need to pass the buck now and give up the ghost.

I agree apart from river dance! we need something with the impact of riverdance...just not a copy or pale imitation of it.

retro:electro · 12-05-2017 12:10PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I agree apart from river dance! we need something with the impact of riverdance...just not a copy or pale imitation of it.

I think RD was great 20 years ago but we need to get over it now. Like we did a jig one time over twenty years ago and we can't get over it since. That's our problem, IMO, we succeed in something a few times and we cling on to it for dear life and don't move with the times.

Ash.J.Williams · 12-05-2017 12:12PM

Do we need something big such as macnas style performance? It need to be theatrical and spectacular. Also rather than one of Louis boys, we need a genuine band that has put the work in.

Ash.J.Williams · 12-05-2017 12:17PM

Also it seems the Eurovision has it's own sense of humour and personality, that we are not part of. That's the killer for us.

(it's a crap sense of humour and personality)

please helpThank YOU · 12-05-2017 12:31PM

His Voice is like a Chipmunk on helium.

Ash.J.Williams · 12-05-2017 01:39PM

There's something I really can't understand, are RTE etc really that stupid that they think jonny logan will be a euro contender?

please helpThank YOU · 12-05-2017 01:43PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

There's something I really can't understand, are RTE etc really that stupid that they think jonny logan will be a euro contender?

Jonny *****.

Shurimgreat · 12-05-2017 02:12PM

Its not about the song or the singer. Its about the whole package. Key changes, fireworks, choreography, stand out stage show, you name it. Don't ask me how the other countries do it, particularly the supposedly poorer eastern European countries, but they produce catchy songs, good singers and fantastic stage shows year in year out.

The talent pool is woefully shallow in Ireland, largely because if you aren't related or friends with someone in RTE you can forget about competing in something like this.

Lets face it, Eurovision is no more than a junket for a few people in RTE at this stage, and they are not going to let go of that. Laughing stock it will be for the foreseeable future.

CeilingFly · 12-05-2017 05:06PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Also it seems the Eurovision has it's own sense of humour and personality, that we are not part of. That's the killer for us.

(it's a crap sense of humour and personality)

It does, but it thsoe exact same people that holiday here and go to the pubs and listen to traditional music.

The Corrs, De Danann, Chris De Burgh, Enya, The Kelly Family are all huge in Europe. Yet we send a westlife reject song with a second rate singer.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 12-05-2017 05:10PM

Hopefully Marty Whelan is doing ok.

He sounded so despondent last night, a broken man.

philstar · 13-05-2017 10:19AM

Dancing Guerilla to win....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rafsdrfRM4o

wakka12 · 13-05-2017 11:53AM

Mutant z wrote: »

Is there any real point to the Eurovision, it seems a complete waste of time.

Can you name me some tv shows/movies that are 'useful' or have a point other than recreation or entertainment? I think eurovision is beyond awful but I don't think its any more of a waste of time than any other stupid show on tv

Ulysses Gaze · 13-05-2017 12:46PM

You need to expunge Louis Walsh, Linda Martina and Hazel Kaneswaran from the song selection process and open it up to a public vote.

That's if it is really important to people. Which it really is not. Apart from media types.

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