Do you trust the garda pulse system?

please helpThank YOU · 11-05-2017 12:39AM

Boaty wrote: »

Stop with your agenda, you're making nonsense up again, like yesterday when you said a pub owner was getting his Garda friends to look up his customers on pulse so he could find out about them.

A Serious question for you. This 100 per cent the truth we already know there is nearly 15000 wrongly convicted on the garda pulse data now you have 15002 that I just know of this the tip of the iceberg . do not just take my world for it people here on Boards should all apply for there garda data on the pulse system you might just get the shock of your life .

Arghus · 11-05-2017 01:14AM

I know nothing about it so I'm going to say - YES!

Samuel T. Cogley · 11-05-2017 01:25AM

mahamageehad wrote: »

Read the title as Garda plus, thought they were rolling out a new line of premium, more expensive gardaí with extra features!

Able to do a hundred breath tests in a single night...

Oh wait.

Discodog · 11-05-2017 08:00AM

How could anyone trust it or anything to do with the Guards. You would have to wonder what they have on members of the government given their reluctance to act & sack the commissioner.

RobbingBandit · 11-05-2017 08:07AM

As the noble Ralph Wiggum once said It's fun to obey the machine.

AudreyHepburn · 11-05-2017 08:32AM

I see no reason not to trust it or them. A few bad eggs doesn't given us the right to tar the whole force.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 11-05-2017 09:28AM

Steviesol wrote: »

No I dont trust

Steviesol wrote: »

No. I do not

Explain why...

Northerngal · 11-05-2017 10:47AM

No i wouldnt trust the pulse system OP, who checks the information that's put there, a super?
Also a word of caution on data access request for AGS, if there isn't anything there you'll be creating a file on yourself!

ohnonotgmail · 11-05-2017 11:27AM

Northerngal wrote: »

No i wouldnt trust the pulse system OP, who checks the information that's put there, a super?
Also a word of caution on data access request for AGS, if there isn't anything there you'll be creating a file on yourself!

A file that says "this person has requested their personal information". so what?

Northerngal · 11-05-2017 11:47AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

A file that says "this person has requested their personal information". so what?

"So what", to a police force thats rotten,Id rather have no trace with AGS than having a file with my personal details even just name address and D.O.B.
AGS should've turned themselves inside out at start of the MC CABE scandal but no they just keep giving, all the while asking people not to break the law yet they're a law onto themselves. Can't wait for 2017 crime figure whether they'll be up or down who knows nothing to see here.

ohnonotgmail · 11-05-2017 11:53AM

Northerngal wrote: »

"So what", to a police force thats rotten,Id rather have no trace with AGS than having a file with my personal details even just name address and D.O.B.
AGS should've turned themselves inside out at start of the MC CABE scandal but no they just keep giving, all the while asking people not to break the law yet they're a law onto themselves. Can't wait for 2017 crime figure whether they'll be up or down who knows nothing to see here.

why would i be bothered about the guards knowing my name and address??

Northerngal · 11-05-2017 11:59AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why would i be bothered about the guards knowing my name and address??

I'm not you so I don't know! Id rather no trace personally at all.
Who checks the info uploaded to pulse?Who knows what agenda is behind confidential sources to AGS members.

Wossack · 11-05-2017 12:19PM

Im so gorgeous they want to put me under arrest

please helpThank YOU · 14-05-2017 06:02PM

After Todays News `Profile report on whistle blower Garda Keith Harrison on Garda data systems. Garda Keith Harrison only found this information last week through legal team under a data protection request by the legal team . That a`Profile is normally only created on individual in circumstances where they are a suspect in criminal or gang-related crime or become of interest to gardai, the whistleblowers solicitor said. So do you now trust garda data? our the garda pulse system?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 14-05-2017 06:10PM

Steviesol wrote: »

No I dont trust

Steviesol wrote: »

No. I do not

Are you sure?

I don't know because I have never had any connection with it, that I'm aware of.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 14-05-2017 06:58PM

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

After Todays News `Profile report on whistle blower Garda Keith Harrison on Garda data systems. Garda Keith Harrison only found this information last week through legal team under a data protection request by the legal team . That a`Profile is normally only created on individual in circumstances where they are a suspect in criminal or gang-related crime or become of interest to gardai, the whistleblowers solicitor said. So do you now trust garda data? our the garda pulse system?

Yep because I've never come to the attention of the gardai

Northerngal · 14-05-2017 09:43PM

http://www.iccl.ie/gardaí-2.html

"What type of information about me can the PULSE system hold?
The PULSE system contains information about:
recording crime;
traffic management;
progression of criminal cases through the courts, including the outcome;
firearms licensing;
driver licences;
insurance;
character vetting.
The PULSE system must follow the rules of the Gardaí’s code of practice on data protection. This means that information can only be put on the system for a clearly stated purpose and there must be controls over who can see the information."

Also to mention, entry of kids to pulse
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/cork-mother-to-sue-state-over-pulse-entries-1.1968121%3Fmode%3Damp
http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-pulse-records-were-altered-says-whistleblower-30302108.html

RustyNut · 14-05-2017 10:05PM

Were the 1,000,000 false breath tests not recorded on pulse, so that's on million pieces of false information on the system. Then there is this.

Cork mother to sue State over Pulse entries
Children aged four and five had been put on Garda database and given criminal tags.

I can only imagine what we don't know. Would Sergeant Maurice McCabe have paedophile allagation against him on the system?

How often is it accessed wrongly, members stalking exes, passing confidential information to private investigators and insurance companies?

Not really a trustworthy system in my opinion.

steddyeddy · 14-05-2017 10:08PM

I trust the decent guards but I don't trust them to side with the public over a bad apple abusing the system.

koumi · 14-05-2017 10:10PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Yep because I've never come to the attention of the gardai

I've never had any dealings with the law in any way, but that I made a data access request last year just to be sure all was well. (mostly as a result of the actions of my former employer who would have been well connected) I don't trust the people with access to the system.

Mena · 14-05-2017 10:53PM

Sh1t in, sh1t out. Nothing to do with the system.

BattleCorp · 14-05-2017 10:54PM

The Gardai stats taken from Pulse regarding firearms stolen between 2010 and 2015 were absolutely staggeringly inaccurate. An absolute joke so no, I don't trust info that's on the Pulse.

I can't find links because I'm on my phone but the CSO don't trust data from Pulse either.

RustyNut · 15-05-2017 12:06AM

BattleCorp wrote: »

The Gardai stats taken from Pulse regarding firearms stolen between 2010 and 2015 were absolutely staggeringly inaccurate. An absolute joke so no, I don't trust info that's on the Pulse.

I can't find links because I'm on my phone but the CSO don't trust data from Pulse either.

Here you go.

The Central Statistics Office quarterly crime report also detailed significant drops in thefts and burglaries.
However the figures have been cast into doubt by another CSO report which calls into question the reliability of information supplied by An Garda S?och?na.

TheDoc · 15-05-2017 12:12PM

Ironically, I grew up as a teen being pretty respectful for the Guarda? and treating them as the authoritative figure and not being the maybe stereotyped "**** the police" kinda of rebellious teen.

However through my early 20's and now in my late 20's, became a little wiser to things and witnessed a good few pieces. Now at the point I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.

I'd never have dealings with police outside of a checkpoint, but just from first hand experiences or second hand experiences of people I'd trust just can't put down the "only a few bad apples" and now I see them all the same. One particular incident a few years ago really made me go "wow" and change my entire outlook. Only took one hyped up thug in a hi vis uniform to basically destroy any trust or support I had for them. Harsh on the rest, but any interaction since just confirms that feeling I have about them.

RustyNut · 02-06-2017 05:15PM

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

I have 100 per cent no fate in the Garda Pulse System data in my opinion this is the next big Scandal. To Break over false data being keep on people and they do not even know this. all of the people in Ireland should apply for there garda data and you might get the shock of your life. I my self have seen two such cases of false data on the garda pulse data.

Boaty wrote: »

Stop with your agenda, you're making nonsense up again, like yesterday when you said a pub owner was getting his Garda friends to look up his customers on pulse so he could find out about them.

It seems that nobody trusts the Pulse system, even the guards themselves.

A serious criminal trial has collapsed due to inaccurate information being recorded on the Garda Pulse computer system - leaving a man with a list of convictions for crimes he had not committed.

Trial collapses after State unable to vouch for accuracy of Pulse data
Barrister says ordinary citizens ?should be terrified in their beds? at development[/QUOTE]

please helpThank YOU · 02-06-2017 05:40PM

RustyNut wrote: »

It seems that nobody trusts the Pulse system, even the guards themselves.

Trial collapses after State unable to vouch for accuracy of Pulse data
Barrister says ordinary citizens ?should be terrified in their beds? at development[/QUOTE]

I knew it .I was 100 per cent right along. about not to trust the Garda Pulse System .Thank you Poster .

please helpThank YOU · 02-06-2017 06:08PM

Now the `floodgates` have opened . The garda pulse system is very unsafe now as I told the good people of Boards . People here on Boards should all now find out what the garda have recorded about them on the garda pulse system You `might get the shock of your life ?.

02-06-2017 06:17PM

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

Now the `floodgates` have opened . The garda pulse system is very unsafe now as I told the good people of Boards . People here on Boards should all now find out what the garda have recorded about them on the garda pulse system You `might get the shock of your life ?.

I don't think one case means the floodgates opened or that all the records are "very unsafe", it is certainly conceivable that a Garda incorrectly entered data and no harm in anyone finding out what's on the system. I suspect if one checked every medical record it's possible to find errors, even though they have rigorous labelling and recording methods that are really not available to the Gardai unless we as taxpayers invest much more in administration.

please helpThank YOU · 02-06-2017 06:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think one case means the floodgates opened or that all the records are "very unsafe", it is certainly conceivable that a Garda incorrectly entered data and no harm in anyone finding out what's on the system. I suspect if one checked every medical record it's possible to find errors, even though they have rigorous labelling and recording methods that are really not available to the Gardai unless we as taxpayers invest much more in administration.

This is just not one case Conor74 this is what the garda whistle blowers have being on about from day one. I my self have seen two case of false data entered into the garda pulse system and this case and there is many more and guess what Conor74 try to get false data removed from the garda pulse that is another story it will cost you up to 30000 euros to go to court to get this false data removed.

Barry Badrinath · 02-06-2017 06:33PM

Case closed OP.

Aaaand thats the end of this boring chapter.

Do you trust the garda pulse system?

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