Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Mellor · 08-05-2017 04:29PM

Lukker- wrote: »

I wouldn't even call him an amateur as it does a disservice to proper amateurs. He's a novice in the sport of boxing.

I may be mistaken, but I'm thought Conor had competed in amateur boxing prior to MMA. At intermediate level. I certainly expect him to beat most lads at that level today.

Depp · 08-05-2017 05:08PM

canelos only 26? christ it seems like hes been around an awful lot longer than that!

Frank Bullitt · 08-05-2017 05:12PM

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Mayweather is not the greatest of all time, not even close. A great yes, but the greatest, hell no.

This made me laugh, thanks for that.

walshb · 08-05-2017 05:46PM

Mellor wrote: »

I may be mistaken, but I'm thought Conor had competed in amateur boxing prior to MMA. At intermediate level. I certainly expect him to beat most lads at that level today.

You would need to go to the national intermediate championships to see that Conor would have at best a punchers chance against the intermediates, same chance he has vs. Mayweather.

walshb · 08-05-2017 05:48PM

Delighted for him and the birth of his son, and so nice to see him giving his son a standard/normal name....

Bevanno · 08-05-2017 06:11PM

rob316 wrote: »

Makes UFC look bad that there biggest star has to go to a sport in decline to get a proper payday.

How is boxing in decline?

darced · 08-05-2017 06:12PM

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walshb · 08-05-2017 06:16PM

darced wrote: »

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Sparring is not competitive boxing.....

Professional fighter is not boxer.

Boxing is a very specific discipline, and McGregor training in it and competing 10-12 years ago won't cut it....

Go watch more boxing!

CatFromHue · 08-05-2017 06:23PM

darced wrote: »

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Is that the South African lad you're talking about?

I thought that video was heavily edited to make McGregor look good.

Gamebred · 08-05-2017 06:40PM

https://twitter.com/JustBleedMMA/status/861426621634428930

pmsl

Wheeliebin30 · 08-05-2017 07:42PM

Just thinking we really won't see another irish person in the ufc like him.

Really should enjoy this while it lasts cause it will be the last.

Hopefully back in the octagon soon again for that early morning feeling.

Gamebred · 08-05-2017 07:46PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Just thinking we really won't see another irish person in the ufc like him.

Really should enjoy this while it lasts cause it will be the last.

Hopefully back in the octagon soon again for the early morning feeling.

Wont see another fighter like him full stop never mind Irish, but yeah his achievements will never be repeated or close to it by an Irish fighter hes a phenomenon.

Wheeliebin30 · 08-05-2017 07:51PM

Gamebred wrote: »

Wont see another fighter like him full stop never mind Irish, but yeah his achievements will never be repeated or close to it by an Irish fighter hes a phenomenon.

Will the baby change his outlook on fighting I wonder.

sonofenoch · 08-05-2017 09:36PM

Gamebred wrote: »

Wont see another fighter like him full stop never mind Irish, but yeah his achievements will never be repeated or close to it by an Irish fighter hes a phenomenon.

He brought mma (UFC in particular) to a world audience, from celebrities to everyday folk .......whether some like it or not it's the truth

Gamebred · 08-05-2017 10:04PM

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/pics-mcgregor-leaves-hospital-with-newborn-in-tow

Much the sunday world pay you for these pics Wonder?

CatFromHue · 08-05-2017 10:47PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

He brought mma (UFC in particular) to a world audience, from celebrities to everyday folk .......whether some like it or not it's the truth

I think himself and Rousey did

darced · 08-05-2017 11:09PM

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Subcomandante Marcos · 08-05-2017 11:40PM

It was edited to make him look good and he still looked flat footed, with bad head movement, and getting tagged for fun by someone who was taking the absolute piss with him.

That video does not make him look like a good boxer unless you know nothing about boxing.

Lukker- · 08-05-2017 11:42PM

darced wrote: »

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Plenty of amateurs go straight into the upper echelons of the sport. Katie Taylor will probably be fighting a title within a year of a pro debut.

Vasyl Lomachenko fought (and won) for a world title in his first fight and all his subsequent fights were against mostly undefeated pro's.

Many do go other route, whether that is to pad there record or get the rounds in to improve the gas tank I'm not sure. But there is no reason a skilled amateur can't go right in at the top level professionally.

darced · 08-05-2017 11:51PM

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HenryHill · 08-05-2017 11:56PM

darced wrote: »

He is not getting tagged for fun in that video and the boxer is not taking the piss, stop being ridiculous.

The boxer was clearly taking it very easy with him.

Gamebred · 08-05-2017 11:56PM

Lomachenko and Katie are the elite of the elite though, they arent the usual prospect going pro Loma was beaten by Salido in his 2nd or 3rd fight he wasnt ready even with his 400 amatuer fights, womens boxing is a joke too Katie's opponents have been dire,

Look at Conlon or Shakur Stevenson they will not fight anything but mexican roofers for the next 3 years.

darced · 08-05-2017 11:59PM

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Mellor · 09-05-2017 02:17AM

walshb wrote: »

You would need to go to the national intermediate championships to see that Conor would have at best a punchers chance against the intermediates, same chance he has vs. Mayweather.

So you've claimed before. I just disagree.
There's really no way to test either opinion. But it kinda seems obvious that he has less chances against Mayweathervthan he does against a random intermediate.

Also, I've seen posts on here from lads who have boxed with him in the club in crumlin. And they rated him a lot higher than you. I think the opinion of somebody who was actually seen him spar intermediates and seniors is in a much better position to comment than any of us here.

Lukker- wrote: »

Plenty of amateurs go straight into the upper echelons of the sport. Katie Taylor will probably be fighting a title within a year of a pro debut.

Vasyl Lomachenko fought (and won) for a world title in his first fight and all his subsequent fights were against mostly undefeated pro's.

Many do go other route, whether that is to pad there record or get the rounds in to improve the gas tank I'm not sure. But there is no reason a skilled amateur can't go right in at the top level professionally.

The standard in women's boxing is lightyears away from men's. Completely irrelevant.

As for Loma, one of the best amateurs of all time. A top level international senior like that is a completely diffferent level to a random intermediate. Nobody is saying he'd be winning Olympic gold. Jus that he'd have more than a punchers chance vrs an intermediate.

wonderfullife · 09-05-2017 03:58AM

Mellor wrote: »

So you've claimed before. I just disagree.
There's really no way to test either opinion. But it kinda seems obvious that he has less chances against Mayweathervthan he does against a random intermediate.

Also, I've seen posts on here from lads who have boxed with him in the club in crumlin. And they rated him a lot higher than you. I think the opinion of somebody who was actually seen him spar intermediates and seniors is in a much better position to comment than any of us here.

Completely agree with Mellor.

Let's remember Philip Sutcliffe is a 2-time Olympian from the 1980's and was Conor's boxing coach in Crumlin for years. He knows what he's talking about and he is on record saying Conor was/is extremely talented and could potentially have been a World Champion Boxer.

Paschal Collins has been consistent in his praise for Conor's skills and recounted a story of Conor making a show of one of his professional boxers in sparring, partly down to his wider stance and chopping strikes. Paschal went as far to say Conor was "something special" and also could have been a champion boxer.

To say he'd have a "punchers chance against Irish intermediates" is either sheer ignorance of Conor's skillset or an attempt to diminish MMA fighters boxing ability.

Or both.

If the fight ever gets signed, I do hope Conor keeps his non-traditional karate-based stance as it's one thing Paschal said makes it very difficult for life-long boxers to time shots against him.

I'm not saying he'll beat Floyd but I'll take the word of 2 of Ireland's most respected boxing coaches that Conor has a lot of natural ability and talent (far above a punchers chance at intermediate level).

EagererBeaver · 09-05-2017 08:05AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Let's remember Philip Sutcliffe is a 2-time Olympian from the 1980's and was Conor's boxing coach in Crumlin for years. He knows what he's talking about and he is on record saying Conor was/is extremely talented and could potentially have been a World Champion Boxer.

That's just spin and hype though, with no way to prove or disprove. Ireland has had one gold medal at the worlds, so you'd expect it to be much more unlikely than likely. Doesn't stop rampant speculation though - a while back you had lads on here wondering whether we'd be talking about him rather than Floyd as one of the greatest of all time if he'd dedicated himself to it.

Mellor · 09-05-2017 08:48AM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Ireland has had one gold medal at the worlds, so you'd expect it to be much more unlikely than likely.

There was a time when posters here where saying Ireland would never have a top MMA fighter, let alone a champion.

But you are right of course, it's impossible to know whether what would have happened. Especially with such a lofty goal as World Champion.
But "as good as an intermediate", it significantly more achievable

walshb · 09-05-2017 09:34AM

Mellor, it is not that I don't rate him. His best trait is his stand up striking/boxing, and had he stayed with boxing maybe he could have won intermediate and senior titles, and more. He didn't. Trying to make a claim that he would handle intermediate boxers due to him having boxed years ago is ridiculous to me. Could he do well? Sure, but against decent intermediates he would be at a distinct disadvantage. Apart from a punchers chance I'd see him getting taken care of.

walshb · 09-05-2017 09:41AM

Sutcliffe Senior was hardly not going to big up Conor..

Too Tough To Die · 09-05-2017 10:07AM

Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't they ban him from the boxing club because he was doing that MMA?

Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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