The Guardian's 'we hate white people' agenda backfires spectacularly today...

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 08-05-2017 04:35PM #1

Comedian and TV presenter Dara Ó Briain has taken issue with The Guardian's review of his new show.
Dara and Ed's Road to Mandalay sees Ó Briain and fellow Irish comedian Ed Byrne travel to south east Asia to sample some of the delights it has to offer.
The first episode kicked off on BBC Two on Sunday night and The Guardian's review landed on Monday morning - and it was not positive.

"It reads, "Some things, unfortunately, don't change. Neither does the increasingly dull formula of sending white British men to far-flung places in search of "strange and quirky" aspects of other cultures.

Oh deary dear. It wasn't meant to turn out like this. The Guardian were all set to score some easy virtue signalling points today with some early morning hit and run tactics against the only acceptable racist target, middle class British White people. Only things didn't turn out so easy.

It was an open goal, and somehow the Guardian have managed to screw it up spectacularly by labelling Irish comedian Dara Ó Briain a 'white British' man, and accidentally revealed their inner Colonialist attitudes:

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/the-guardian-calls-dara-briain-a-white-british-man-and-hes-not-impressed-35691697.html

Funny how they were happy to lecture about Malaysia when they can't even get their Irish history right.
I look forward to the grovelling apology.

HigginsJ · 08-05-2017 04:41PM

How long has Dara worked and lived in the UK?

nelly17 · 08-05-2017 04:44PM

They can have em (both)

AtomicHorror · 08-05-2017 04:45PM

The mislabeling of Irish people as British is annoying, but I don't know if I'd call it a spectacular anything.

Seems more like a nice chance to take an easy shot at that lefty liberal cultural marxist thingy.

osarusan · 08-05-2017 04:46PM

Firstly, he and Byrne are Irish, not British, so they f**ked up.

Secondly, I don't see why a white woman would have been any less bad than a white man.

Thirdly, that apart, I agree to a certain extent. I've commented before that I hate seeing programmes like this in which the presenter is somebody with no knowledge of or connection to the subject of the show. Why not somebody from that place? Or with knowledge of that place?

Why a comedian, or an actress, or some other kind of celebrity? The answer, it seems to me, is that it's more about 'watch this famous person' than 'learn about this subject' and I think that's quite sad.

My name is URL · 08-05-2017 04:47PM

You seem desperate to find something to be offended by OP

red ears · 08-05-2017 04:49PM

The contempt for white people these days in some media outlets is worrisome, its racism no matter what their intentions. Its perplexing in times of such political correctness where saying the wrong thing can get you in big trouble that disparaging white people has almost become fashionable.

ScumLord · 08-05-2017 04:50PM

The newspapers seem to be getting caught out at this stuff all the time, they've been doing it to youtube channels for a while now. They know exactly what they're at, they know full well they're making something out of nothing for clickbait type stories.

They seem to see any other form of media as a threat to themselves so are using their position to degrade everyone who's not print media.

tigger123 · 08-05-2017 04:51PM

osarusan wrote: »

Firstly, he and Byrne are Irish, not British, so they f**ked up.

Secondly, I don't see why a white woman would have been any less bad than a white man.

Thirdly, that apart, I agree to a certain extent. I've commented before that I hate seeing programmes like this in which the presenter is somebody with no knowledge of or connection to the subject of the show. Why not somebody from that place? Or with knowledge of that place?

Why a comedian, or an actress, or some other kind of celebrity? The answer, it seems to me, is that it's more about 'watch this famous person' than 'learn about this subject' and I think that's quite sad.

Because the presenter has to be someone the audience can relate to, otherwise the format wouldn't work.

robindch · 08-05-2017 04:54PM

My name is URL wrote: »

You seem desperate to find something to be offended by OP

A lot of the alt-right spend an inordinate amount of time reading what they refer to as the "mainstream media" in order to find things which they can affect offence at in order to virtue-signal to their own virtual friends.

Such people would be better off finding some real friends :rolleyes:

NinjaKirby · 08-05-2017 04:57PM

osarusan wrote: »

Firstly, he and Byrne are Irish, not British, so they f**ked up.

Secondly, I don't see why a white woman would have been any less bad than a white man.

Thirdly, that apart, I agree to a certain extent. I've commented before that I hate seeing programmes like this in which the presenter is somebody with no knowledge of or connection to the subject of the show. Why not somebody from that place? Or with knowledge of that place?

Why a comedian, or an actress, or some other kind of celebrity? The answer, it seems to me, is that it's more about 'watch this famous person' than 'learn about this subject' and I think that's quite sad.

If this is a BBC show then I would have thought the reasoning behind having an Irish or British celebrity go there and document their experience would be to appeal to other potential tourists from the UK and Ireland.

So if we have an ad on TV and it's some guy from Greece saying "come to Greece, our country is great" then I feel like a much more effective advert for vacationing in Greece is my neighbor or friend telling me about their awesome vacation to Greece.

Surely the point of this show it to showcase Malaysia from the perspective of a tourist?

Glenster · 08-05-2017 04:58PM

"Its the differences of which there are none that makes the sameness exceptional."

-Trying to deal with Irish people who've lived in London for 10+ years

wes · 08-05-2017 05:00PM

robindch wrote: »

A lot of the alt-right spend an inordinate amount of time reading what they refer to as the "mainstream media" in order to find things which they can affect offence at in order to virtue-signal to their own virtual friends.

There either doing that or threatening to murder girl scouts:

Girl Scout threatened after confronting neo-Nazi protesters in striking photo

RGDATA! · 08-05-2017 05:03PM

red ears wrote: »

The contempt for white people these days in some media outlets is worrisome, its racism no matter what their intentions. Its perplexing in times of such political correctness where saying the wrong thing can get you in big trouble that disparaging white people has almost become fashionable.

Examples? Single example even?

ScumLord · 08-05-2017 05:03PM

robindch wrote: »

A lot of the alt-right spend an inordinate amount of time reading what they refer to as the "mainstream media" in order to find things which they can affect offence at in order to virtue-signal to their own virtual friends.

I'm not alt-right, and I don't read newspapers, but there's some youtubers I like to watch and I've been shocked by the hatchet job that they've done to people taking their videos completely out of context and they know full well they're falsifying the story. The slingshot channel being a recent one where the daily mail did what can only be described as a hatchet job on the poor guy trying to take his livelihood away from him over nothing, just because it would get people worked up after the terrorist attack that happened outside the houses of parliament in London.

I don't think they're expressly against white people, they'll stitch up anyone if they think it'll sell papers.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 08-05-2017 05:08PM

Britain's biggest social issue, the one that truly divides the people living there is its centuries old class system. A wealthy British man or woman in Britain is massively better off than a poor British man or woman.

Having a pop at Dara and Ed for simply being men is stupid nonsense, coming from a newspaper (which I like

) whose primary readership comes from people in places of privilege relatively speaking (middle class and up).

DEFTLEFTHAND · 08-05-2017 05:08PM

wes wrote: »

There either doing that or threatening to murder girl scouts:

Girl Scout threatened after confronting neo-Nazi protesters in striking photo

Czech Neo Nazis are alt right?

AtomicHorror · 08-05-2017 05:10PM

Speaking as a white guy, I don't feel at all hated when the "MSM" expresses the view that people who share my gender and skin colour are over-represented pretty much everywhere in the media. I feel like that's obviously true.

Why does OP feel hated? Does OP consider himself to be just like the targets of this criticism? Is that not buying into the race thing bigtime?

ohnonotgmail · 08-05-2017 05:10PM

red ears wrote: »

The contempt for white people these days in some media outlets is worrisome, its racism no matter what their intentions. Its perplexing in times of such political correctness where saying the wrong thing can get you in big trouble that disparaging white people has almost become fashionable.

apart from describing them as British what is disparaging about the guardian article?

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 08-05-2017 05:14PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Czech Neo Nazis are alt right?

I doubt any Czech Neo Nazis has even heard of the term alt right.

Richard Hillman · 08-05-2017 05:16PM

The paper will be bust soon. We can then rejoice.

donegal. · 08-05-2017 05:16PM

am i missing something, wheres the spectacular backfire?

Sham Squire · 08-05-2017 05:18PM

osarusan wrote: »

I don't see why a white woman would have been any less bad than a white man.

Go home, you're drunk.

NinjaKirby · 08-05-2017 05:19PM

red ears wrote: »

The contempt for white people these days in some media outlets is worrisome, its racism no matter what their intentions. Its perplexing in times of such political correctness where saying the wrong thing can get you in big trouble that disparaging white people has almost become fashionable.

I think it's just a way to make money through click bait stuff.

As a white person, I don't really feel disparaged and if someone was giving out to me because I went to Vietnam and said I thought the food was gross I'd probably just laugh at them and, depending on how far they take it, never talk to them again.

There are certain parts of the internet that get really riled up by all this "anti-white" stuff and I think people just get a kick out of winding them up. It's click bait.

I don't really agree that saying the wrong thing can get you into trouble. Just don't talk about race and/or gender if you are talking in public or in a large group. Most of the things people get pulled up for they honestly should have more sense in the current climate.

It seems like "the left" are doing a fantastic job of shutting down any kind of debate or dissenting opinion but there was Trump and Brexit so...?

It's white people who are mostly consuming this content (The Guardian is UK based, right) so I think it's more that White Guilt (TM) has become fashionable among certain people.

There are a ton of white people willing to hear the latest sermon about how we have the modern equivalent of original sin. The internet ruined religion for a lot of people in western countries so it makes sense that the replacement "religion" would be a bit more subtle and/or effective. Confess your privilege or something, I dunno.

Like I said, the USA has Trump and the UK has Brexit so it definitely doesn't seem like political correctness is winning at all.

Sham Squire · 08-05-2017 05:22PM

red ears wrote: »

The contempt for white people these days in some media outlets is worrisome, its racism no matter what their intentions.

You can't be racist to white people. There's whole libraries full of books on this subject. Read some.

NinjaKirby · 08-05-2017 05:23PM

robindch wrote: »

A lot of the alt-right spend an inordinate amount of time reading what they refer to as the "mainstream media" in order to find things which they can affect offence at in order to virtue-signal to their own virtual friends.

Such people would be better off finding some real friends :rolleyes:

I think you've almost become self aware there, robindch. :rolleyes:

Glenster · 08-05-2017 05:23PM

Sham Squire wrote: »

You can't be racist to white people. There's whole libraries full of books on this subject. Read some.

Watch me be racist to Poles. I'll do it all day.

Sham Squire · 08-05-2017 05:26PM

Glenster wrote: »

Watch me be racist to Poles. I'll do it all day.

That's Xenophobia, not racism. Polish people are (in the majority) racially white.

NinjaKirby · 08-05-2017 05:27PM

Sham Squire wrote: »

You can't be racist to white people. There's whole libraries full of books on this subject. Read some.

How much difference is there between Racism and Racial Prejudice though?

It seems like both are pretty bad.

I'm not sure that "I'm not Racist, I just have racial prejudice towards some people" is a convincing defense in any circumstances.

PopePalpatine · 08-05-2017 05:31PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Czech Neo Nazis are alt right?

If they can figure out how to use the Internet, then yes.

Glenster · 08-05-2017 05:33PM

Sham Squire wrote: »

That's Xenophobia, not racism. Polish people are (in the majority) racially white.

The idea of race is 100% cultural.

The Guardian's 'we hate white people' agenda backfires spectacularly today...

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