Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

jcd5971 · 07-05-2017 12:34PM

Lads who cares none of this is aimed at us, it's all for this fake Kardashian generation. I don't really bother too much with McGregor until fight stuff happens.
I still find the press conferences to be entertaining even if they are a bit more contrived these days and his post fight interviews are as "real" as your going to get.

Everything else such as his Cheltenham shenanigans is marketing to the Twitter/Instagram generation and so I pay no heed to it and it doesn't bother me.

Mellor · 07-05-2017 12:48PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

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I don't think anyone is 'outraged' but people are entitled to point out the hypocrisy and how cynical it appears.

Conor said he didn't want the baby to have a celebrity lifestyle yet, within a day of his birth, Paradigm Management have an Instagram page ready to make money off the child.

Conor Sr. might be restricted in many ways by the UFC's Reebok deal but Conor Jr. sure as hell isn't. Cue a steady stream of product placements - nappies, clothes, shoes, bibs, cribs, strollers etc.

I can't speak for everyone else on this forum but if I was worth $50 million and just had a new baby, I'd be telling my management company to do one when they come suggesting a new Instagram page to make 6 figures from Baby Gap.

Is that not completely speculative though?
You don't know that it was paradigm pushing to set it up. Or what the angle is, if there is one. If there wasn't an official account, there would probably be a string of fake ones.

FWIW, Conor doesn't need a proxy IG account to advertise buggies. He could use his own for that as the Reebok deal doesn't prevent him advertising other products (Monster, BSN, Bud Light, etc).

I'm a fan of his fights first and foremost. The other stuff might pass time between fights in here. But it's not going to make or break my opinion tbh.

Whelo79 · 07-05-2017 01:43PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

So the mystery is "over" name wise anyway it seems.

A verified instagram account in the name Conor McGregor Jr. is up and running. It follows 2 people (Conor and Dee) and is followed by the official accounts of Audie Attar and Paradigm (manager/management).

I suppose that was obvious in retrospect.

I'd be pretty sure neither Conor or Dee created the instagram account. As Wonders post stated the other day, the account follows Conor and Dee and is followed by Audie and Paradigm. Sounds to me like Paradigm are the ones who set up the account to keep their options open on cashing in. I can guarantee someone would have set up an unofficial account within hours of the child being born.

I doubt we will see much of any activity from it.

wonderfullife · 07-05-2017 04:38PM

Mellor wrote: »

Is that not completely speculative though?
You don't know that it was paradigm pushing to set it up.....

FWIW, Conor doesn't need a proxy IG account to advertise buggies. He could use his own for that as the Reebok deal doesn't prevent him advertising other products (Monster, BSN, Bud Light, etc).

I'm a fan of his fights first and foremost. The other stuff might pass time between fights in here. But it's not going to make or break my opinion tbh.

Well, yeah I'm speculating but the first 2 people to follow it were Audie Attar and Paradigm Management so I'm assuming someone in the office did the creation and verification.

In terms of a proxy/secondary IG for a baby - advertisers much prefer baby accounts to be separate from the parents accounts because it puts the focus entirely on the baby. It's a whole cottage industry.

The 'Singapore Twins' are the most followed baby account on IG with 323,000 followers and they have advertised everything from baby Ugg boots, Gap, Stella McCartney to Sony Xperia phones.

Apparently their parents are making $500,000 a year from the twins. Conor Jr. without one photo already has 42.3k followers so I gotta imagine it'll smash 400k followers within weeks to become the most followed baby.

It doesn't change my opinion on Conor, it's just the way of the world. Greed is Good.

In other RELEVANT news, Dana said that they had September 16th set aside for Conor v Floyd but now Canelo-GGG stole it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN6xCgaEB5c

Ariel seems to think we're looking at 2018 which would mean May 2018, Floyd only tends to fight in May or September.

mdwexford · 07-05-2017 05:08PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

The 'Singapore Twins' are the most followed baby account on IG with 323,000 followers and they have advertised everything from baby Ugg boots, Gap, Stella McCartney to Sony Xperia phones.

Lol how do you know this stuff or why do you even give a crap.

07-05-2017 05:13PM

Tigger wrote: »

Before he fought Aldo you were defending his antics and saying it's just an act to make money
Now apparently it isn't ?

As I have stated previously I have always been a fan of Conor and still am (kinda). The antics he was up to before was funny, he isn't being funny anymore...... he is mroe serious and stiff. Conor is playing a character just to make money, yes I still believe that. Its just he has got way more serious these days, that is all.

wonderfullife · 07-05-2017 06:09PM

mdwexford wrote: »

Lol how do you know this stuff or why do you even give a crap.

I just read someone comment on potential baby endorsements for Conor Jr. on Twitter and clicked on the link to a Daily Mail article describing the backlash of people giving out to parents "exploiting" their baby for financial gain.

Why do people care about anything he does? Most people out there are discussing his cars, seat-belts, watches, suits, benders, drugs, etc. His fighting doesn't get discussed anymore because he isn't doing any of it!

mdwexford · 07-05-2017 06:12PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

I just read someone comment on potential baby endorsements for Conor Jr. on Twitter and clicked on the link to a Daily Mail article describing the backlash of people giving out to parents "exploiting" their baby for financial gain.

Why do people care about anything he does? Most people out there are discussing his cars, seat-belts, watches, suits, benders, drugs, etc. His fighting doesn't get discussed anymore because he isn't doing any of it!

I meant why do you care about baby Instagram followers and baby product placement.

I have visions of you doing hours of research on it. :pac:

07-05-2017 06:13PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

I just read someone comment on potential baby endorsements for Conor Jr. on Twitter and clicked on the link to a Daily Mail article describing the backlash of people giving out to parents "exploiting" their baby for financial gain.

Why do people care about anything he does? Most people out there are discussing his cars, seat-belts, watches, suits, benders, drugs, etc. His fighting doesn't get discussed anymore because he isn't doing any of it!

Hopefully he organises a fight soon. Him v Ferguson by all rights should be the fight, or at worst him v Nate. Hopefully this bs about 'chance at greatness' v Floyd goes away.

Spudman_20000 · 07-05-2017 06:16PM

Canelo and GGG being made just makes the Floyd fight look like even more of a farce. Hope the whole thing dies a death sooner rather than later.

wonderfullife · 07-05-2017 06:22PM

mdwexford wrote: »

I meant why do you care about baby Instagram followers and baby product placement.

I have visions of you doing hours of research on it. :pac:

I just read one Daily Mail article

Again, why do people care about anything? It didn't affect my life one way or the other when John Terry was banging Wayne Bridge's missus or when Tiger Woods was off in Hookers R' Us or when Ronaldo was buying a baby from someone American girl, but that sort of stuff is what people talk about.

I don't care about any of the above issues but I'll throw in 2 cents on them if it passes the time.

Gamebred · 07-05-2017 06:47PM

Not a hope in hell hes sitting out past 2017 without an mma fight anyways,

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/861260673954742272

Another rangey southpaw in the family...

wonderfullife · 07-05-2017 06:55PM

Gamebred wrote: »

Not a hope in hell hes sitting out past 2017 without an mma fight anyways.

If it wasn't in Anaheim I would say the Woodley fight is a strong possibility. I'm sceptical they could pull it off in that market but timing wise it'd make sense.

He's not fighting Khabib that's just the way it is whether people like it or not. So you're left with either Woodley or Ferguson, and the far bigger fight is Woodley.

July 29th would be enough time for a 10-week-camp.

RoryMac · 07-05-2017 07:11PM

Spudman_20000 wrote: »

Canelo and GGG being made just makes the Floyd fight look like even more of a farce. Hope the whole thing dies a death sooner rather than later.

I'd wonder now if either side were ever serious about the fight or if it was just publicity to keep them both in the limelight.

wonderfullife · 07-05-2017 08:50PM

Another great breakdown by TheWeasle of McGregor v Diaz 2, he just released it today after a lot of requests to do one.

I missed half of the stuff he's breaking down in real time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2tZwU9skqI

Tigger · 08-05-2017 01:26AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Hopefully he organises a fight soon. Him v Ferguson by all rights should be the fight, or at worst him v Nate. Hopefully this bs about 'chance at greatness' v Floyd goes away.

Tony wouldn't have a chance
Not even a little chance against Conor

08-05-2017 02:40AM

Tigger wrote: »

Tony wouldn't have a chance
Not even a little chance against Conor

I mean its MMA of course he has a chance, I'd have Conor as favourite but it would be a damn good fight. Tony has never been KO'd and Conor aint submitting him so it should be a good fight. Tonys style is also fun to watch and it would just be an awesome fight in general.

I just want to see Conor fight... in MMA

That is what he is so good and entertaining at. I'd like to see Conor go and destroy Ferguson and then do the same to Khabib, I know I vent about Conor but I am a fan like..... Just not a total fan boy, he annoys me at times but overall I am a big fan.

08-05-2017 09:00AM

Depp wrote: »

They make the fight I'll tune in and I'll be in conors corner(figuratively). Its a chance however slim at a historical moment and either way it would be cool to see.

http://www.punditarena.com/boxing/ccunningham/mike-tyson-gives-his-thoughts-on-garbage-mayweathermcgregor-fight-1/

No one who has watched a boxing match ever is giving Conor a real chance, besides people who have a financial interest in this fight so they are talking sh!te to make money. Floyd v Conor is a joke and its a mockery of the sport of boxing. A novice boxer taking on the greatest of all time :eek: ridiculous......

Too Tough To Die · 08-05-2017 10:14AM

Deleted User wrote: »

http://www.punditarena.com/boxing/ccunningham/mike-tyson-gives-his-thoughts-on-garbage-mayweathermcgregor-fight-1/

No one who has watched a boxing match ever is giving Conor a real chance, besides people who have a financial interest in this fight so they are talking sh!te to make money. Floyd v Conor is a joke and its a mockery of the sport of boxing. A novice boxer taking on the greatest of all time :eek: ridiculous......

Mayweather is not the greatest of all time, not even close. A great yes, but the greatest, hell no.

Ultimate Seduction · 08-05-2017 10:22AM

Too Tough To Die wrote:

Mayweather is not the greatest of all time, not even close. A great yes, but the greatest, hell no.

Canelo Alvarez aged only 26, already has more wins than Floyd, more KO's than Floyd. He's only loss was too Floyd but he was just a kid.

Spudman_20000 · 08-05-2017 11:24AM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Canelo Alvarez aged only 26, already has more wins than Floyd, more KO's than Floyd. He's only loss was too Floyd but he was just a kid.

A kid with 42 wins already under his belt. You'd think after all the excuses that get trotted out when Conor wins, people would give Floyd a bit more credit for his wins too.

The Ayatolla · 08-05-2017 11:28AM

Canelo's first 30 wins were against Boxcar Bob and co.

Mellor · 08-05-2017 11:37AM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Canelo Alvarez aged only 26, already has more wins than Floyd, more KO's than Floyd. He's only loss was too Floyd but he was just a kid.

More wins than Floyd? I don't think he has surpassed him yet.
And I don't think he'll surpass him in September either

The Ayatolla · 08-05-2017 11:42AM

Canelo had 36 wins before he even fought for a world title? :-/

He currently has 49 wins.

CatFromHue · 08-05-2017 01:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

http://www.punditarena.com/boxing/ccunningham/mike-tyson-gives-his-thoughts-on-garbage-mayweathermcgregor-fight-1/

No one who has watched a boxing match ever is giving Conor a real chance, besides people who have a financial interest in this fight so they are talking sh!te to make money. Floyd v Conor is a joke and its a mockery of the sport of boxing. A novice boxer taking on the greatest of all time :eek: ridiculous......

I don't understand why Floyd fighting McGregor makes a joke of boxing. He's a retired 40 year old who holds no belts and hasn't fought in nearly 2 years.

If you ask me it makes MMA/UFC look bad that their biggest star wants to fight a retired boxer while he still is a belt holder in the UFC.

rob316 · 08-05-2017 01:54PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

I don't understand why Floyd fighting McGregor makes a joke of boxing. He's a retired 40 year old who holds no belts and hasn't fought in nearly 2 years.

If you ask me it makes MMA/UFC look bad that their biggest star wants to fight a retired boxer while he still is a belt holder in the UFC.

Makes UFC look bad that there biggest star has to go to a sport in decline to get a proper payday.

Mellor · 08-05-2017 02:05PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

I don't understand why Floyd fighting McGregor makes a joke of boxing. He's a retired 40 year old who holds no belts and hasn't fought in nearly 2 years.

You really don't understand?

Floyd may be retired two years, but he's also pro and world champion. Conor is a amateur.
That's a ridiculous mismatch in any sport.

It's like Canelo Alvarez taking on GSP in MMA. Even though GSP is retired, he would without a doubt submit Alvarez inside 1 round

CatFromHue · 08-05-2017 02:16PM

Oh yeah it's a mismatch all right I'm not disagreeing on that.

It's just when people say the fight makes a mockery of the sport of boxing that I don't get.

A retired boxer coming out of retirement to fight a novice boxer who's MMA's biggest star for a supposedly big pay day doesn't make boxing look bad to me.

wonderfullife · 08-05-2017 03:09PM

rob316 wrote: »

Makes UFC look bad that there biggest star has to go to a sport in decline to get a proper payday.

I don't think boxing is in terminal decline nor is MMA on a straight curve ascent. Participation is only one measure of the health of a sport but boxing participation levels globally are through the roof, especially among women - in no small part due to Demi Lovato, Gigi Hadid, Ellie Goulding and other influential famous women who are always pushing boxing.

If you take a very short term 2017 snapshot of both sports here, which one appears in decline?

AJ v Klitschko did $9.8 million at the Gate to a capacity 90,000 crowd with 1.6 million PPV's (£20/$24).

DC v Rumble 2 did $2.1 million to a 17,100 crowd who were half asleep to 250k PPV buys ($60).

Boxing, arguably, has a handful of stars at the moment - Joshua, Canelo, Manny.

MMA has Conor...

Boxing also seems to finally be grasping that people will only pay for competitive matches with the best against the best. The UFC is moving in the opposite direction (Bisping v Hendo, CM Punk v Micky Gall etc).

Anyway, I wouldn't be too quick to judge either sport as 'declining' - combat sports go through seemingly inevitable swings, peaks and troughs. I wouldn't see it as a "loss" for either sport to put on a spectacle that will have people talking about both sports for months.

Lukker- · 08-05-2017 03:28PM

Mellor wrote: »

Floyd may be retired two years, but he's also pro and world champion. Conor is a amateur.

I wouldn't even call him an amateur as it does a disservice to proper amateurs. He's a novice in the sport of boxing.

Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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