Don't tell Paul Williams and Nicola Tallant, but.....

C Montgomery Gurns II · 06-05-2017 09:08PM #1

I just realised that for all it dominates our news coverage weekly, we are nearly half way into 2017 and there has, as of yet, not been a single known gangland murder. A run in its fifth month, a stretch that I doubt we have seen since the very early 90's. For all the one sidedness of last year's events, there were still at least six murders unrelated to the feud (in itself a very low figure). The media are still going on about the upcoming Hutch "spectacular" in the same way that the US media spent the whole decade after 9/11 warning about the next "big one" that also never happened (within the US at least).

So what has happened? Has the Garda crackdown really made violence an awkward price of doing business?

Stheno · 06-05-2017 09:12PM

There'll probably be one tonight now op

fergiesfolly · 06-05-2017 09:14PM

Well if it stops those two from writing articles, I'm all for this cessation of violence.
Who knew gangsters would take pity on the press reading public.

C Montgomery Gurns II · 06-05-2017 09:21PM

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Well if it stops those two from writing articles, I'm all for this cessation of violence.
Who knew gangsters would take pity on the press reading public.

To be honest I don't mind the crime writing. For all that people moan about it it clearly sells papers. But the SW has become unreadable lately, writing stories about the unreportable- if there are no actual murders to report their rubbish gets increasingly repetitive.

It's a uniquely Irish one I feel- in Britain, for example, the media doesn't cover these things as much from the personal angle. Unlike here, where certain figures, particularly from the Crumlin area, are equally as well known as our actors and athletes, I doubt anyone in London outside the criminal fraternity knows the names and faces of the figures who supply the region's drugs and guns for hire.

C Montgomery Gurns II · 06-05-2017 09:22PM

Stheno wrote: »

There'll probably be one tonight now op

Williams might be forced to do one himself things are getting so thin for stories.

HenryHill · 06-05-2017 09:24PM

Give it some time 'Gangland' has been getting more blatant and viscious over the last 30 years,there is no reason to think its on the decline long term.

If anything, it will get worse.

06-05-2017 09:28PM

Williams is such a cultureless knacker it never fails to astound. A complete, utterly benighted dreg.

Jack the Stripper · 06-05-2017 09:29PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Williams is such a cultureless knacker it never fails to astound. A complete, utterly benighted dreg.

You're some keyboard warrior alright.

HenryHill · 06-05-2017 09:30PM

Anyone see Donal McIntyre's 'Assasins' the other night. I thought it wasnt bad in fairness. Doyler was a lunatic.

C Montgomery Gurns II · 06-05-2017 09:32PM

HenryHill wrote: »

Give it some time 'Gangland' has been getting more blatant and viscious over the last 30 years,there is no reason to think its on the decline long term.

If anything, it will get worse.

It's your fault the New York mafia is in decline Henry Hill you rat :pac::pac:

Beyondgone · 06-05-2017 09:53PM

HenryHill wrote: »

Anyone see Donal McIntyre's 'Assasins' the other night. I thought it wasnt bad in fairness. Doyler was a lunatic.

I was vaguely looking forward to it. I turned over half-way through when they started screenshotting Donie texting The Well Spoken man In A Suit.

And you spelled scummer wrong.

Richard Hillman · 06-05-2017 10:06PM

They've killed most of the Hutch gang/family

please helpThank YOU · 06-05-2017 10:09PM

I will not be a Whistle blower for Paul Williams any time soon.

arayess · 06-05-2017 10:09PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

They've killed most of the Hutch gang/family

apart from the first fella in spain that started this, they haven't killed anybody from the actual gang.

Are Am Eye · 06-05-2017 10:13PM

There was a bag of weed taken off some kid in
Irishtown last week. Its believed to have come from the kinahan CARTEL. Gardai believe the CARTEL have been left reeling and are on the brink of implosion.

Beyondgone · 06-05-2017 10:18PM

Are Am Eye wrote: »

There was a bag of weed taken off some kid in
Irishtown last week. Its believed to have come from the kinahan CARTEL. Gardai believe the CARTEL have been left reeling and are on the brink of implosion.

They captured some foreign lads bringing in some drink and tobacco today too - the haul amounted to almost €2000..and made the news. Jesus wept.

please helpThank YOU · 06-05-2017 10:20PM

Mars bar and can coke stolen in Ennis co Clare. Dublin and limerick Gangs have links to Robbery says Paul Williams.

C Montgomery Gurns II · 06-05-2017 10:31PM

arayess wrote: »

apart from the first fella in spain that started this, they haven't killed anybody from the actual gang.

If there is one.

From what I can see there never was a Hutch gang since the Monk retired. By and large the criminal elements of the extended family seem to be largely a crowd of junkies and/ or petty crooks as opposed to actual gangsters. Even the Regency attack seems to have been carried out by a mix of family members and Republican guns for hire (incidentally, the guns themselves were, seemingly, hired from the dissidents)

Dial Hard · 06-05-2017 10:38PM

The Gardai are too busy investigating Stephen Frye.

please helpThank YOU · 06-05-2017 10:40PM

Dial Hard wrote: »

The Gardai are too busy investigating Stephen Frye.

Well Said. now I know where my Tax Money goes.:o

Will I Am Not · 06-05-2017 10:43PM

Tallant by name only...

Her pieces are terrible. Seems like all the gangsters in Ireland are all in on it together and splitting the spoils.
She could have at least thrown in one different estimate.

http://www.sundayworld.com/news/investigations/dirty-money-the-underworld-rich-list-part-1

andekwarhola · 06-05-2017 10:43PM

Probably the only reason a dickhead like Williams is still alive is because in this media age, the crims actually enjoy - and utilise - the crime porn write ups that are heavy on aggrandisement details but bereft of evidence.

please helpThank YOU · 06-05-2017 10:53PM

Nora Wall sued Sunday World and Paul Williams for 175,000 euros over miscarriage of justice story.

Dr Crayfish · 06-05-2017 10:57PM

Can't listen to Newstalk in the mornings any more with that absolute gobsh*te on now

HenryHill · 06-05-2017 11:00PM

The Well Spoken man In A Suit.

Is David Wilson renowned crimnologist, he had a show on channel 4 called interview with a killer. It was very good.

VinLieger · 07-05-2017 12:41AM

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Can't listen to Newstalk in the mornings any more with that absolute gobsh*te on now

Yup clueless muppet has ruined any entertainment there used to be in it

RabbleRouser2k · 07-05-2017 01:12AM

I have literally no respect for Williams-the guy would do all sorts of sexual things to himself if he was flexible enough. I remember he popped on the Late Late show one night, when Pat was still presenting-and he sat in the audience whilst Pat interviewed a lawyer who claimed he could 'get Saddam Hussein out of trouble based on a technicality'. Like, yes-the lawyer guy was the literal cliche of every lawyer you could imagine.
But that said, Williams was totally out of his depth.
Essentially this guy said that he could have gotten some gang member out of jail (it's been a few years, so I don't remember the guy in question) Williams did his usual speechifying-at which pint the lawyer interjected with 'Well, Paul Williams has made quite a living based on books relating to 'gang guy', so he's not the most reliable source.
Williams sat there, with a smirk on his face-but he knew he was beaten. Said absolutely nothing afterwards.

Also, Williams said some horrendously nasty things about then Mayor Toireasa Ferris shortly after a rather disastrous LLS appearance. (Referred to her as a 'tart', for one) I'm no fan of hers, mind, but the way she responded to his comments- to ask for an apology rather than sue, showed far more class than Williams ever will.

Tallant bores me to tears-her and Williams are the reason I don't read the Sunday World-as was Amanda Brunker. The SW has always been a joke of a paper, but it was never helped much by them. It's always been a borderline porn mag with a segment about crime. It must be ten years or so since I quit the paper.

HenryHill · 10-05-2017 02:09PM

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-3-shooting-3382235-May2017/

Here we go again, another hutch associate. My moneys on Gately.

refusetolose · 10-05-2017 02:16PM

HenryHill wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-3-shooting-3382235-May2017/

Here we go again, another hutch associate. My moneys on Gately.

could be ross?

Treepole · 10-05-2017 02:18PM

refusetolose wrote: »

could be ross?

It's not. Name is above.

dar100 · 10-05-2017 02:22PM

JG it was

Don't tell Paul Williams and Nicola Tallant, but.....

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