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Have you ever used the dark web

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Security tools and processes that provide a level of anonymity far above those provided by Tor are available on the public internet for hacks, human rights activists and everyone else who needs or wants to use them.

    The 'dark web' is now little more than a cesspit for drug dealers, pornographers and other criminal miscreants to reach their audience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭JoeyPeeps


    You can still get tracked on the dark web. You're mac and ip address can be traced back to you. If you know how to change these and use a vpn along with TOR you won't have to worry.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Ordering anything from Dark Web after exploit is incredibly stupid (IMO)...do you believe it will get through Irish customs?

    Honestly, after watching those episodes of Border Security Australia, Canada, and 'Stop Search Seize' (Irish version) where they stop ingenious smuggling methods, I am baffled as to how anyone could be brave enough to still order from the Silk Road.

    The TV shows don't show the millions of packages of contraband that get through though do they? You're pretty naive to believe the dark web isn't supplying a thriving drug market in Ireland and all over the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    koumi wrote: »
    I'm kinda worried.

    No, no, I'll just be ordering towels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    The TV shows don't show the millions of packages of contraband that get through though do they? You're pretty naive to believe the dark web isn't supplying a thriving drug market in Ireland and all over the world.

    Nope, I know fully well it's a form of selection bias. There are plenty of packages that make it through and also plenty of drug mules who don't lack complete common sense like the muppet we see on these shows and make numerous profitable trips...

    But in regards to actually ordering packages, it's simply too risky. I'm not an anti-drug guy (believe drug propaganda is mostly B.S.) but there is no way in hell I would order from a site to my house. Even asking someone is risky. The penalties are simply too high to casually seek drugs in this country or in most countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,959 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    This is true. Using it for nefarious means is an abuse of a very necessary technology.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Ordering anything from Dark Web after exploit is incredibly stupid (IMO)...do you believe it will get through Irish customs?

    Honestly, after watching those episodes of Border Security Australia, Canada, and 'Stop Search Seize' (Irish version) where they stop ingenious smuggling methods, I am baffled as to how anyone could be brave enough to still order from the Silk Road.
    Out of approximately 100 times I've used it, I got one letter from customs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Out of approximately 100 times I've used it, I got one letter from customs.

    You're joking or serious? If so, could you post the letter?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    I never heard of dark web until now and after reading about it I am gobsmacked. I always knew there was good and bad in the world but making it easier to make the world a bad and illegal place makes me feel sick.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    If you order a gram of coke or a couple of pills, they don't even involve the Garda if you're caught, as far as I know. Dealable quantities would get you in trouble though. It's easier to buy from the Dark Web than to pay scumbags here who provide awful product for double the price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    You're joking or serious? If so, could you post the letter?
    Serious. Probably closer to 200 times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭frag420


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    You're joking or serious? If so, could you post the letter?

    He would need a stamp...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I never heard of dark web until now and after reading about it I am gobsmacked. I always knew there was good and bad in the world but making it easier to make the world a bad and illegal place makes me feel sick.

    Ignoring everything on it except drugs, its a brilliant thing. Drugs are always going to exist. There is always going to be a demand. Prohibition will never work. I can directly pay someone who synthesises illicit substances in their shed with their chemistry degree. I don't have to interact with scumbags in any way who might be carrying a weapon. It removes all the bad parts of the industry. You actually don't even know what your getting off some random scumbag. You do know what your getting this way. Its the future and I hope its staying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    The dark web is a myth. Today what they call the 'dark web' is pretty much anything where not everyone is allowed 'in'. Anything official authorities, google and Joe Bloggs can't index, survey and have a peak at to make sure its legal and compliant and otherwise 'correct'.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    Do you typically have to sign for deliveries or is it sent by unregistered regular post?


    I've never bought anything on the normal t'internet never mind the DW :pac:


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    JoeyPeeps wrote: »
    You can still get tracked on the dark web. You're mac and ip address can be traced back to you. If you know how to change these and use a vpn along with TOR you won't have to worry.

    Terrible advice. Using a vpn and tor together is highly discouraged if anonymity is important


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    Ignoring everything on it except drugs, its a brilliant thing. Drugs are always going to exist. There is always going to be a demand. Prohibition will never work. I can directly pay someone who synthesises illicit substances in their shed with their chemistry degree. I don't have to interact with scumbags in any way who might be carrying a weapon. It removes all the bad parts of the industry. You actually don't even know what your getting off some random scumbag. You do know what your getting this way. Its the future and I hope its staying.

    Drugs legal or illegal don't bother me but

    A. You can hire somebody to assassinate someone??
    B. Paedophiles can access other paedophiles for easier access to child pornography/ children

    Not good.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Drugs legal or illegal don't bother me but

    A. You can hire somebody to assassinate someone??
    B. Paedophiles can access other paedophiles for easier access to child pornography/ children

    Not good.

    I couldn't agree more


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    Drugs legal or illegal don't bother me but

    A. You can hire somebody to assassinate someone??
    .

    You probably can.

    The thought of them actually turning up and doing the job after paying them is in the realms of fantasy mind. I'd imagine some of the drug deals might be real- I'm guessing it is probably lads who live in rural areas where there just aren't enough people to shift gear to.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    You probably can.

    The thought of them actually turning up and doing the job after paying them is in the realms of fantasy mind. I'd imagine some of the drug deals might be real- I'm guessing it is probably lads who live in rural areas where there just aren't enough people to shift gear to.

    Don't agree. Life doesn't seem to have a value any more. People hurt or kill others very easily it seems. You can see this in local papers now, not national papers. The world seems to be a much worse place now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    Don't agree. Life doesn't seem to have a value any more. People hurt or kill others very easily it seems. You can see this in local papers now, not national papers. The world seems to be a much worse place now.

    But what kind of hitman advertises online? I would seriously doubt there has ever been a competent gangland murder carried out by an online gun for hire. Look at that farce in Clare a few years ago when some petty criminal eejit flew over from the US to murder the husband of that cold looking blonde bird for a few grand- it wasn't exactly the JFK conspiracy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭thunderdog


    Top tip for anyone paranoid. If you do order some consumables via the dark web, when it arrives to your house (if you have the patience) wait about a week or two before you open the letter/package.

    As another poster said, it's not illegal to receive something dodgy through the post, however as soon as you open it, you admit responsibility that the package belonged to you,

    Waiting a week or two gives you some breathing space, just to be sure


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    Again, is this stuff typically registered/ courier (signing, essentially) or via regular An Post?

    For a friend :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Again, is this stuff typically registered/ courier (signing, essentially) or via regular An Post?

    For a friend :P
    I've used post and courier. Signed and unsigned. No issue, apart from customs inviting me to collect a gram of charlie.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't agree. Life doesn't seem to have a value any more. People hurt or kill others very easily it seems. You can see this in local papers now, not national papers. The world seems to be a much worse place now.

    I think you should take a break from the news. The parts of the world we deal with are far safer than ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    I think you should take a break from the news. The parts of the world we deal with are far safer than ever.

    Safer than ever? I don't think so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭bored_stupid


    I think you should take a break from the news. The parts of the world we deal with are far safer than ever.

    Tell the french and Germans and see what answer you get :confused:

    Tor or tails is not safe and never will be has a backdoor built in by a ex tor dev for the CIA its well know .

    And vpn can be bypassed in stealth mode without the host even see anything but a few extra kb on the network .

    As these cockroaches found out .:)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-investigate-global-playpen-child-porn-website-35686050.html

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/major-online-child-sexual-abuse-operation-leads-to-368-arrests-in-europe

    And watch they will be make more raids soon and if you nothing to hide you nothing to worry about have you .:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭frag420


    I kid you not, I clicked on the Independent article above about peados getting caught in the dark web and what was the first fooking link below the article....something about father and kids nappies and a pic of a toddler bent over smiling with its arse in the air(nappy on of course)

    Cookies? Kinda odd coincidence no?

    Tell the french and Germans and see what answer you get :confused:

    Tor or tails is not safe and never will be has a backdoor built in by a ex tor dev for the CIA its well know .

    And vpn can be bypassed in stealth mode without the host even see anything but a few extra kb on the network .

    As these cockroaches found out .:)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-investigate-global-playpen-child-porn-website-35686050.html

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/major-online-child-sexual-abuse-operation-leads-to-368-arrests-in-europe

    And watch they will be make more raids soon and if you nothing to hide you nothing to worry about have you .:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭JoeyPeeps


    JoeyPeeps wrote: »
    You can still get tracked on the dark web. You're mac and ip address can be traced back to you. If you know how to change these and use a vpn along with TOR you won't have to worry.

    Terrible advice. Using a vpn and tor together is highly discouraged if anonymity is important
    why is that? as far as evidence is concerned, your vpn provider cannot hand over your internet usage to law enforcement agencies because they have a contract with you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    I've used post and courier. Signed and unsigned. No issue, apart from customs inviting me to collect a gram of charlie.

    They seized one so?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    They seized one so?
    Yeah but I can collect it anytime I want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Ordering anything from Dark Web after exploit is incredibly stupid (IMO)...do you believe it will get through Irish customs?

    Honestly, after watching those episodes of Border Security Australia, Canada, and 'Stop Search Seize' (Irish version) where they stop ingenious smuggling methods, I am baffled as to how anyone could be brave enough to still order from the Silk Road.

    I've known people who've posted yokes from Amsterdam to Ireland in a birthday card and subsequently got them in the post. Stuff gets through the net all the time.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Safer than ever? I don't think so.

    By pretty much every possible metric, yes.

    Sectarian violence, muggings, murders, deaths on the roads, disease, war. It's all better than its ever been, for Irish people anyway. And most of the world.

    You just think it's worse because of the internet and 24/7 news channels that have to fill air time. It will continue to feel like it's "getting worse" while actually getting better.

    Hearing about some shooting in America, a terrorist attack in France, a burglary gone wrong in Denmark or a bombing in Iraq doesn't make your world less safe. It has always happened but we only had the six o clock news to tell us about it.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Tell the french and Germans and see what answer you get :confused:

    Tor or tails is not safe and never will be has a backdoor built in by a ex tor dev for the CIA its well know .

    And vpn can be bypassed in stealth mode without the host even see anything but a few extra kb on the network .

    As these cockroaches found out .:)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-investigate-global-playpen-child-porn-website-35686050.html

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/major-online-child-sexual-abuse-operation-leads-to-368-arrests-in-europe

    And watch they will be make more raids soon and if you nothing to hide you nothing to worry about have you .:D

    The French and Germans who lived through centuries of almost constant war? We've no idea how good we have it in the 21st century.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    The French and Germans who lived through centuries of almost constant war? We've no idea how good we have it in the 21st century.
    In before this reply..
    Something something Islam something something Europe at war something something.


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