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Bouncer punches woman who tried to punch him.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    No, the scumbag didn't do right, and that's all he is. There's no "equal rights" argument here when the doorman is in a position where he is obliged to behave in a professional manner. Patrons are only obliged not to behave like scumbags. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    So he's a scumbag for trying to defend himself?

    Cop on, she came at him with intent to harm him....bouncer or not he's entitled to defend himself.

    Patrons are obliged not to behave like animals or use threatening or violent behaviour.....she did both.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Yeah thought it looked instinctual to me. Duck, hit, remove the threat.

    We've no idea what was going on previous to the video as well.

    No sympathy for her anyway.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    He needs firing. Landed her one on the mush and she was still standing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Daledge


    +1 on the "Can't take it, don't dish it" argument. It's pretty simple, gender doesn't come into it, you hit someone expect a wallop back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭valoren


    THHHHHHHWAAAACKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,981 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Punch like a man, get hit like a man.


    It's a shame it had to come to that but you can't ask someone not to react to a punch being thrown at them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    If you watch the punch on better quality video than the one posted here, you can see that the bouncer doesn't really have his fist clenched and it's more of a reaction than anything, which is why she didn't fall.

    I'm in two minds on this as bouncers are well trained (or most are) and he could have grabbed her after avoiding the punch and shoved her away, then called the authorities on her or whatever.

    There are a ton of these videos on YT over recent years and it does seem women (not just drunk ones, sober ones also) and squaring up to men more and more with what appears to be genuine belief that they can take a man on and knock seven bells out of him. I blame the movies tbh as the sheer amount of films were a woman will knee a guy in the balls, or knock him out with one punch and then walk off unscathed is staggering.

    I used to call it the Chuck Norris effect when it was young lads in the 80's & 90's taking on much bigger blokes, not sure what I'd call it now... but it's a phenomena I tells ya.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Not sure about the punch but that song is much more palatable when slowed down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,220 ✭✭✭maximoose


    When his hand comes into view his palm is open, looks like a slap not a punch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    If she was coming at him with a weapon, and he was at risk, then yeah, you could make a defence for him, but in this case, I think she could have easily been restrained after the duck, without belting her one.

    Response totally inappropriate here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,305 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    So he's a scumbag for trying to defend himself?

    Cop on, she came at him with intent to harm him....bouncer or not he's entitled to defend himself.

    Patrons are obliged not to behave like animals or use threatening or violent behaviour.....she did both.


    Nobody's a scumbag for trying to defend themselves. The doorman in this incident is a scumbag for his behaviour. I was a doorman for a number of years and I never punched anyone. I never had to, because when they resorted to violence, they were easily restrained.

    It's probably not as satisfying to do that though if you're a scumbag who gets his jollies from thumping people and claiming equal rights or self-defence bollocks afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,709 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    maximoose wrote: »
    When his hand comes into view his palm is open, looks like a slap not a punch

    I agree watched a few times and looks like he slapped her, an actual punch from him to a drunk girl in heels and she wouldn't be standing afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    I hope he broke her tooth and it costs her 1000s to fix it.

    Might teach her a lesson


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Nobody's a scumbag for trying to defend themselves. The doorman in this incident is a scumbag for his behaviour. I was a doorman for a number of years and I never punched anyone. I never had to, because when they resorted to violence, they were easily restrained.

    It's probably not as satisfying to do that though if you're a scumbag who gets his jollies from thumping people and claiming equal rights or self-defence bollocks afterwards.

    You know nothing about what type of man this bouncer is or how he 'gets his jollies' as you so eloquently put so I'd suggest you stop jumping to unfair conclusions.

    He acted in self defence....nothing wrong with that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭s15r330


    He slapped her if anything and the tramp deserved it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,709 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    May well have been the 20th time she punched him too, had to be something beforehand for the camera to be out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,305 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    You know nothing about what type of man this bouncer is or how he 'gets his jollies' as you so eloquently put so I'd suggest you stop jumping to unfair conclusions.

    He acted in self defence....nothing wrong with that


    I've seen enough of his type of behaviour to know on the balance of probabilities what kind of a person he is. There aren't too many of them around thankfully. Acting in self-defence means to use appropriate action to defend oneself. Punching a drunk woman? Scumbag.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 242 ✭✭PREG1967


    Men are fighting a losing battle against other men, majority of men are more feminist than women


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    6.50pm though...

    That's the outrageous thing in this story.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    she certainly knows how to throw a punch, its not the first time she has done that, brought her arm back and leaned into it, only being drunk her aim was off. I'd go with a reaction from him, he didn't really have time to think about it and the fact that she was still standing meant it was restrained or more of a slap

    I blame Hollywood and all the bad ass female characters recently, just about every female character can deck professional killers in a single punch :D , even that statue of the little girl that they put beside the Bull in NY, what were they thinking?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    If she was coming at him with a weapon, and he was at risk, then yeah, you could make a defence for him, but in this case, I think she could have easily been restrained after the duck, without belting her one.

    Response totally inappropriate here.

    Try restraining a drunk woman/anybody. It ain't easy. And besides, even if he successfully restrains her, he is then leaving himself open to the accusation that he touched her t1ts/ar5e/puddy etc.

    If he pushed her away, what's to stop her coming back at him a second time?

    I think what he did was proportional. It wasn't a punch designed to kill her. It was a slap to prevent her attacking him again.

    I'm making no apologies, I'm on the bouncer's side on this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    I've seen enough of his type of behaviour to know on the balance of probabilities what kind of a person he is. There aren't too many of them around thankfully. Acting in self-defence means to use appropriate action to defend oneself. Punching a drunk woman? Scumbag.

    A drunk woman who tried to punch him first....you seem determined to ignore her actions for some reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Nice music in the background. It makes it seem like a romantic comedy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,806 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    silverharp wrote: »
    she certainly knows how to throw a punch, its not the first time she has done that, brought her arm back and leaned into it, only being drunk her aim was off. I'd go with a reaction from him, he didn't really have time to think about it and the fact that she was still standing meant it was restrained or more of a slap

    I blame Hollywood and all the bad ass female characters recently, just about every female character can deck professional killers in a single punch :D , even that statue of the little girl that they put beside the Bull in NY, what were they thinking?

    I dont think its Hollywood more Social Media. She has her viral video now so she can try to become some kind of Facebook Feminist/Celebrity creature for a few weeks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭irishman86


    A scummy Liverpool girl who got what was coming to her, the guy didnt really smash her either he gave her a tap.
    Why should scummy women/men be aloud to hit someone just doing there job.
    Its like they think people should be afraid of them because they may resort to violence
    Fair play to him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    He didn't really hit her that hard, looks like an open handed hit.

    Personally, I wouldn't do it but she tries to hit him so what does she expect.

    Plus I'd say if he tried to physically restrain her, there would be the same furore, probably worse; what's he supposed to do, stand there and let some tramp beat him up?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's funny how feminist Boards becomes all of a sudden when it's about a woman getting punched by a man. Talk about quotas and pay and it's bull****, but when it comes to violence all of a sudden it's 'equal opportunities'. I guess I'm just a male chauvinist dinosaur when it comes to hitting girls :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    To be honest it looks more like a mild open handed slap. If he had punched her there's no way she'd be standing. Instinctive but controlled reaction by the bouncer imho.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,107 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The bouncer should have shown some restraint. That's what they are supposed to do.

    Only on After Hours would I read different.


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