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Could a terror attack happen in Ireland?

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    #362
    Dubh Linn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 172 ✭✭Dubh Linn


    OK, everyone needs to keep a cool head here. This discussion has gone from A to Z in the space of a day.

    I'm just very curious about the whole case.


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    #363
    Dubh Linn
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    How were those q's stupid? It's mere curiosity.


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    #364
    gitzy16v
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    Dubh Linn wrote: »
    OK, everyone needs to keep a cool head here. This discussion has gone from A to Z in the space of a day.

    I'm just very curious about the whole case.

    Then read up about it and stop picking everyones explanation of the facts(well known) apart.....good luck.


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    #365
    1eg0a3xv7b82of
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    We dont need IS, we have our own gangs in this country as is providing all the terror we need.
    dublin is full of junkies, homeless people and thieves.
    The odds are if IS planned something for dublin , they would be robbed on their way to execute that plan.


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    #366
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,502 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Xander Cool Tie wrote: »
    We dont need IS, we have our own gangs in this country as is providing all the terror we need.
    dublin is full of junkies, homeless people and thieves.
    The odds are if IS planned something for dublin , they would be robbed on their way to execute that plan.

    Lol.

    Some more contention for the thread.

    An ISIS suspect coming to attack would be show by the Kinahans thinking it was a Hutch import. :cool::p


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    #367
    Dubh Linn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 172 ✭✭Dubh Linn


    Because we're neutral, I think an attack would be less likely.

    Does anyone agree/disagree?


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    #368
    Widdershins
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    Danzy wrote: »
    Not very likely, given how heavily infiltrated they are, same as back then, and especially the Omagh team.

    Nor is there an appetite for it, even in dissident circles, the big bomb idea ended with Omagh.

    It's an interesting topic that should probably have its own thread.

    Wasn't there a large stockpile of fertiliser seized from a remote farm only last year?


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    #369
    tomwaterford
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    Widdershins wrote: »
    It's an interesting topic that should probably have its own thread.

    Wasn't there a large stockpile of fertiliser seized from a remote farm only last year?

    Surly it's acceptable for a farmer to have fertiliser??? :pac:


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    #370
    PARlance
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    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Surly it's acceptable for a farmer to have fertiliser??? :pac:

    It was a wind farm.


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    #371
    Atoms for Peace
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    Dubh Linn wrote: »
    Because we're neutral, I think an attack would be less likely.

    Does anyone agree/disagree?

    Neutral like Sweden.


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    #372
    caff
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    Ferrari3600 wrote: »
    I'm not arsed, and if the OECD stats are from the AGS, I wouldn't trust them.

    Commonsense suggests we are much higher, unfortunately.

    But, hey, never mind, youse got your pay increase.
    They're not, I didn't I don't work for them I work for a bank but hey it suits your conspiracy so you wont believe me.


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    #373
    GoneHome
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    I live in a very rural part of Ireland but would be in Dublin about three times a year for varying reasons and I have to say it's one thing that always comes into the back of mind when I'm up there that if Ireland is to be a target by IS it would be in Dublin, so I'm never really comfortable in the city and always glad to get back home.


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    #374
    caff
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    GoneHome wrote: »
    I live in a very rural part of Ireland but would be in Dublin about three times a year for varying reasons and I have to say it's one thing that always comes into the back of mind when I'm up there that if Ireland is to be a target by IS it would be in Dublin, so I'm never really comfortable in the city and always glad to get back home.

    Definitely, airport large international sporting event or a high profile conference. The organisations would be media savey homework done and looking for maximum exposure. No point in aiming for anywhere else in the country.


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    #375
    K.Flyer
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    Dubh Linn wrote: »
    Because we're neutral, I think an attack would be less likely.

    Does anyone agree/disagree?

    Anything is possible, you have no idea what goes on in some people's heads.
    All it takes is something to tip them over the edge and who knows what could happen.
    It could be a lone wolf scenario or an "organised" group.
    As for being neutral, yeah right.


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    #376
    The Oort Cloud
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    I.S use Ireland as a base, because of the difficulty in deporting them and our lax laws. this is why we will not be affected so much. Britain is a major target and it will get worse there in the coming years unfortunately. The Irish government are really in no state to say we are capable of dealing with a terrorist attack, sure look at the HSE crisis. Then you have too many unarmed gardai with them not going to the attack location because they are unarmed., and have the many thousands of unarmed gardai lately or for decades been in a training situation to deal with a major crisis like a terrorist attack even from just 4/5 Kalashnikov lunatic terrorists. Ye can't just take them down with your batton in a localized crisis.

    We are wide open, I mean 'wide open' to an I.S attack. Will it happen though, well probably not seeing that they use Ireland as a base, who would blow their own base up and disrupt the underground network.


    Ireland isn't the goldilocks zone of utopia, we all need to be aware of the serious possability of an attack happening. Would you rather have local armed gardai that would be fully willing to take out a few terrorists and saving possibly your family's life, or would you rather keep to the status quo and gardai afraid to interviene and no protection for themselves against persons that have body bombs and serious fire-power. Any sane person without the armoured tools would run the opposite way.

    Individual people have different thoughts and understanding in regard to others opinions, but the problem is this... there are some people out there that will do everything in their power to cut you off when they do not like your opinion even when it is truth.

    https://youtu.be/v8EseBe4eIU



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    #377
    dublinman1990
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    It is a very difficult question to answer for me wholeheartedly because one has to do rigorous research of well documented facts on the subject & also avoid looking at internet conspiracy theories to make the outcome a reality.

    For one thing; the amount of refugees coming into Ireland are very consistent because Irish people do tend to be more sympathetic towards them. The reason for that is because Ireland is taking in refugees on a voluntary basis because the EU had made agreements with their member states to have a mass relocation of refugees across their bloc.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-refugees-2-2982893-Sep2016/

    http://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-refugee-asylum-seeker-numbers-2016-3077058-Nov2016/


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    #378
    frillyleaf
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    We allow us military use in Shannon increases our chances of being attacked in my opinion.

    In my eyes we are not neutral because of this. We are are facilitators.....


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    #379
    Dubh Linn
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    Can they not charge someone over Omagh? Why/why not?


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    #380
    tomwaterford
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    Dubh Linn wrote: »
    Can they not charge someone over Omagh? Why/why not?

    Have you fallen on your head,you asked already and been replied to

    What are you playing at?


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    #381
    Dubh Linn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 172 ✭✭Dubh Linn


    Because I didn't think the Gardaí or the RUC would let something like the murder of 31 people lie? What were THEY playing at?
    Jesus, if you shoplift a packet of Polo Mints or go 1 km over the speed limit on a desolated country road you'd be hung, drawn and quartered, but if you detonate a car bomb and kill people you get a warning? That's the way I'm perceiving it here.

    I knew they were bad, but really, they can't be that bad, can they?


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    #382
    [Deleted User]
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    People were arrested.
    I think you should start another thread.


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    #383
    tomwaterford
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    Dubh Linn wrote: »
    Because I didn't think the Gardaí or the RUC would let something like the murder of 31 people lie? What were THEY playing at?
    Jesus, if you shoplift a packet of Polo Mints or go 1 km over the speed limit on a desolated country road you'd be hung, drawn and quartered, but if you detonate a car bomb and kill people you get a warning? That's the way I'm perceiving it here.

    I knew they were bad, but really, they can't be that bad, can they?

    All this has been explained to you though :confused:


    Asking the same thing over and over and expecting different answers is pointless?



    Unless you have some evidence to bring to the table to force the situation,it'll not change?


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    #384
    Dubh Linn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 172 ✭✭Dubh Linn


    Yes, I agree. We're getting off topic here. Right then so, back to the stats, the majority of boards users think there is going to be an IS hit on Ireland, which, to be is very surprising because I thought with our neutrality and all that jazz we would be a pointless target. But, now people are saying Ireland would be a soft target?

    Just how easy would it be to attack ROI, and what would the response be?


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    #385
    tomwaterford
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    Dubh Linn wrote: »
    Yes, I agree. We're getting off topic here. Right then so, back to the stats, the majority of boards users think there is going to be an IS hit on Ireland, which, to be is very surprising because I thought with our neutrality and all that jazz we would be a pointless target. But, now people are saying Ireland would be a soft target?

    Just how easy would it be to attack ROI, and what would the response be?


    Your the one who laboured the point about the Omagh bombing tbf?



    Given the highly technical and skilled nature of IS attacks-driving trucks into crowds :rolleyes:


    I'd imagine it's a case of whoever carrying out the attacks deciding when/where?..the chances of stopping it,short of slim to none


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    #386
    Dubh Linn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 172 ✭✭Dubh Linn


    Who would respond though, the ERU, the Rangers, who? And would they do a good job at handling the situation?


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    #387
    flazio
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    In my opinion, of course an attack could happen here but in reality, what would it achieve?
    There is very little media coverage here so it's unlikely to be headline news across CNN, BBC World News, Euronews etc. Therefore no one outside of Ireland would actually notice, defeating the purpose So called Islamic State would be looking for.
    I do not fear any immigrants or refugees because they might be terrorists. That's like saying back in the 80s and 90s every Irish immigrant to other countries should be shunned because they could be IRA, or any Catalan Spainard should be kicked out because they could be ETA. Sounds ridiculous because it is.


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    #388
    dav3
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    Dubh Linn wrote: »
    Yes, I agree. We're getting off topic here. Right then so, back to the stats, the majority of boards users think there is going to be an IS hit on Ireland, which, to be is very surprising because I thought with our neutrality and all that jazz we would be a pointless target. But, now people are saying Ireland would be a soft target?

    Just how easy would it be to attack ROI, and what would the response be?

    As the person who started this thread and setup the poll, you've gone from...

    Could a terror attack happen in Ireland? (in your thread title)

    to

    Do you think IS could be attacked by IS? (in your anonymous poll question)

    to now

    the majority of boards users think there is going to be an IS hit on Ireland.


    Do you need to redo your poll? Perhaps add something about Omagh in there.


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    #389
    [Deleted User]
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    Hey i only just noticed the change in the poll.
    That's a completely different question to the one i answered OP.
    Are you just trying to get the results to suit you or what?

    Anyone know can i take back my vote???!


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    #390
    Dubh Linn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 172 ✭✭Dubh Linn


    I don't understand. The poll is the same, the pollster (me) has not changed it, and I mentioned Omagh because it was a serious terror attack.


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    #391
    Noddyholder
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    Xander Cool Tie wrote: »
    We dont need IS, we have our own gangs in this country as is providing all the terror we need.
    dublin is full of junkies, homeless people and thieves.
    The odds are if IS planned something for dublin , they would be robbed on their way to execute that plan.

    Are you six .:rolleyes: You can type very well for such a young age,Just a few improvements in other areas, but all with time. well done.


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