The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

Billy86 · 14-04-2017 01:07PM

The number of black head coaches tripled after the Rooney Rule, up from 6% to 22% where it still is today. There are currently more active black head coaches (7) in NFL jobs today than there was in the history of the NFL prior to the rule being brought in, in 2003 (6).

coco0981 · 14-04-2017 01:43PM

brinty wrote: »

Dean blandino leaving the NFL for an undisclosed tv analyst role

That's awkward timing after the NFL made the decision to centralise replay rulings to head office in New York. Blandino was going to be making the calls on every game. Sounded like it would have been an extremely pressurised job, much easier to be an on air presence like Mike Pereira

jack presley · 14-04-2017 03:10PM

coco0981 wrote: »

much easier to be an on air presence like Mike Pereira

Tell that to Mike Carey.

coco0981 · 14-04-2017 03:25PM

jack presley wrote: »

Tell that to Mike Carey.

Can you imagine e if they hired Carey to replace Blandino :P

jack presley · 14-04-2017 03:28PM

coco0981 wrote: »

Can you imagine e if they hired Carey to replace Blandino :P

I kind of felt sorry for Carey towards the end. I'm sure he got most decisions right but it just seemed that he got all the big calls wrong and everything was amplified on the internet.

TOss Sweep · 14-04-2017 03:54PM

Billy86 wrote: »

The number of black head coaches tripled after the Rooney Rule, up from 6% to 22% where it still is today. There are currently more active black head coaches (7) in NFL jobs today than there was in the history of the NFL prior to the rule being brought in, in 2003 (6).

Thing is though is that down to the Rooney rule or down to the more and more Black coaches getting a shot in college now also? I dont have the numbers on me but the increased number in black coaches in College football has gone up a lot also including OC and DC roles.

For what it is worth I know a fair few black coaches in HS and College ball and most had arguments for and against the Rooney Rule. Biggest problem is that some of them felt the Rooney rule makes it harder for black coaches get the role because the team is just interviewing them for the sake of it and not on merit.

Got to wonder is there many owners that are that racist that they wont hire black HC? What i do like about the Rooney rule at least it brought attention to the fact that not many of these guys were even get looked at based on merit.

Itssoeasy · 14-04-2017 03:55PM

jack presley wrote: »

I kind of felt sorry for Carey towards the end. I'm sure he got most decisions right but it just seemed that he got all the big calls wrong and everything was amplified on the internet.

It's hate to believe that he was a super bowl ref. I mean how that happened given what we found out during his broadcasting "career" I'll never know. Mike pereira and Gerry Austin on espn make showed him up so badly.

eagle eye · 14-04-2017 07:43PM

Black, White, Pink, Blue or whatever colour, I just don't understand why anybody would not pick the best guy for the job. It's pretty simple, you get the best man in and things will go better.

Also on black coaches, a hell of a lot of the players are African-American and I'm sure they'll work as hard, if not harder, for an A-A coach.

brinty · 14-04-2017 07:57PM

NFL.com reporting lynch and raiders have agreed terms

Realt Dearg Sec · 14-04-2017 08:18PM

Interesting! What is his contact situation with the seahawks? Will they need to be included in any way in the deal?

raze_them_all_ · 14-04-2017 08:20PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Interesting! What is his contact situation with the seahawks? Will they need to be included in any way in the deal?

Yeah they still have his contract

paulie21 · 14-04-2017 08:21PM

He'll need to be traded

TOss Sweep · 14-04-2017 08:23PM

Seahawks gave him permission so the trade will probably be in Raiders favor also. Personally I would make the Raiders jump through hoops for him. hope the Seahawks dont look for a really late draft pick. Hope they look for something high from them.

brinty · 14-04-2017 08:48PM

Seahawks would be due compensation for him from the Raiders

That can be organised if the raiders agree a deal with lynch

Beefy78 · 14-04-2017 08:54PM

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Seahawks gave him permission so the trade will probably be in Raiders favor also. Personally I would make the Raiders jump through hoops for him. hope the Seahawks dont look for a really late draft pick. Hope they look for something high from them.

They've no leverage even if they wanted to be awkward. Lynch won't play for them so what are they going to do? Cut him? Name him in their 53?

He's a huge personality in the area and still got on well enough with the whole organisation that he was on the Seahawks' sideline for most of the season. It is in everyone's interest to get the move to Oakland done.

brinty · 14-04-2017 08:55PM

Trent Murphy
4 game suspension for using performance enhancing substance

raze_them_all_ · 14-04-2017 09:04PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

They've no leverage even if they wanted to be awkward. Lynch won't play for them so what are they going to do? Cut him? Name him in their 53?

He's a huge personality in the area and still got on well enough with the whole organisation that he was on the Seahawks' sideline for most of the season. It is in everyone's interest to get the move to Oakland done.

They can just do nothing. He retired if he wants to play they have the power tbh

TOss Sweep · 14-04-2017 09:07PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

They've no leverage even if they wanted to be awkward. Lynch won't play for them so what are they going to do? Cut him? Name him in their 53?

He's a huge personality in the area and still got on well enough with the whole organisation that he was on the Seahawks' sideline for most of the season. It is in everyone's interest to get the move to Oakland done.

They are due compensation either way. My point is they are within their right to ask for a trade that suits them if they want to. Lynch made the decision to retire and is now coming back out of retirement which stick the Seahawks with his contract. I am sure they will get something done as they want shot of his contract but they would be fools not to ask for some sort or trade that benefits them.

As for the leverage you ask about? Simple he is a Seattle Seahawks player and if they wanted to be petty they could name him in the roster forcing him to sit out a year if he refused to show up not that they will. But they have the the final say what happens with his contract and him playing.

My two cents is all. To each their own etc etc

OldMrBrennan83 · 14-04-2017 09:10PM

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Beefy78 · 14-04-2017 09:21PM

They'll cut him or agree a low trade, maybe a swap of late picks. This isn't Football Manager lads.

raze_them_all_ · 14-04-2017 09:54PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

They'll cut him or agree a low trade, maybe a swap of late picks. This isn't Football Manager lads.

Lmfao they won't cut him, iirc they can hold him another year/2 if he refuses to play for them. They won't get a low round pick for him. Nothing lower than 3rd I'd imagine. And raiders will pay it. A bruising beast of a runner, superbowl winner, (would of been two if seahawks weren't trying to lower his contract) and hometown boy. Raiders ain't holding the cards here especially with the decline of the hawks backfield

coco0981 · 14-04-2017 09:59PM

Patww79 wrote: »

Exactly. Why should the Seahawks do Lynch or Oakland any favours?

Seattle have moved on from Lynch and don't have that cap space to be able afford his contract now. The last thing they want is for him to appear back on their roster. He'll be traded for a low round pick, maybe a 7th even

14-04-2017 10:01PM

Raiders and seahawks god are buddies,lynch has a good working relationship with the seahawks and the seahawks told him he was free to meet other teams also he's a 31 year old running back the seahawks ain't holding him to a kings ransom this will be a quite amicable deal probably a swap of late picks or something along those lines

coco0981 · 14-04-2017 10:03PM

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Lmfao they won't cut him, iirc they can hold him another year/2 if he refuses to play for them. They won't get a low round pick for him. Nothing lower than 3rd I'd imagine. And raiders will pay it.

Nah, I'd be shocked if we got a 3rd round pick for him. Can't afford his contract and Lynch and the Raiders know it. Seahawks have much less leverage than you think here

TOss Sweep · 14-04-2017 10:04PM

Beefy78 wrote: »

They'll cut him or agree a low trade, maybe a swap of late picks. This isn't Football Manager lads.

Lost with the Football Manager reference and what it has to do with the what was said already but hey to each their own I guess.

TOss Sweep · 14-04-2017 10:13PM

Either way now being reported no deal has been done yet at it stands at 6.10PM EST.

To add to that no trade talks have even been opened between both teams.

This might not go as smooth as some believe. It really should given the history between the two owners but Seahawks might surprise everybody.

As I said before I am of the personal opinion that the Seahawks hold the majority power hear and should ask for more. If that makes me believe this is Football Manager whatever that is supposed to mean so be it.

disclaimer : Will I be shocked if the Seahawks get sweet fook all from it? No I wont.

Christy42 · 14-04-2017 10:34PM

TOss Sweep wrote: »

Either way now being reported no deal has been done yet at it stands at 6.10PM EST.

To add to that no trade talks have even been opened between both teams.

This might not go as smooth as some believe. It really should given the history between the two owners but Seahawks might surprise everybody.

As I said before I am of the personal opinion that the Seahawks hold the majority power hear and should ask for more. If that makes me believe this is Football Manager whatever that is supposed to mean so be it.

disclaimer : Will I be shocked if the Seahawks get sweet fook all from it? No I wont.

Raiders hold more power. They can always walk away from it. They are going after a 31 year old rb who will hardly make or break the organisation if they do so. 3rd is unlikely.

TOss Sweep · 14-04-2017 10:43PM

Christy42 wrote: »

Raiders hold more power. They can always walk away from it. They are going after a 31 year old rb who will hardly make or break the organisation if they do so. 3rd is unlikely.

I disagree that the Raiders hole more power but that is your opinion and you are entitled to it and I respect said opinion. I do think though If the Raiders walk away Lynch will retire again or quickly look for another suitor and if none is found rinse, repeat retire.

Realt Dearg Sec · 14-04-2017 10:50PM

Why didn't he want to keep playing for the seahawks anyway?

raze_them_all_ · 14-04-2017 10:55PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Why didn't he want to keep playing for the seahawks anyway?

I'd say not handing him the ball on the 2 yard line to win a superbowl so they could lowball his next contract might of had something to do with it

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