Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

unkel · 11-04-2017 09:51PM

A few software updates later and you could go lie on the back seat and have a nap

11-04-2017 09:58PM

bk wrote: »

Of course some people have commutes far beyond that, but that is their choice.

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How's that ?

650Ginge · 11-04-2017 10:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

How's that ?

Because you can move closer to work.

One of Mr Money Mustaches rules and he aint ever wrong, except about dogs, he is wrong about dogs.

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/04/22/curing-your-clown-like-car-habit/

isnottheword · 11-04-2017 10:59PM

650Ginge wrote: »

Because you can move closer to work.

One of Mr Money Mustaches rules and he aint ever wrong, except about dogs, he is wrong about dogs.

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/04/22/curing-your-clown-like-car-habit/

I understand how you might innocently come to that conclusion but bull5hit. It's never that simple.

BorneTobyWilde · 11-04-2017 11:05PM

What happens if you do indeed run out of battery in the middle of somewhere .

unkel · 11-04-2017 11:06PM

Then you ring your insurance companies recovery number (or the AA if you are a member) and they will come out, load your car onto a flatbed and bring you either home or to a charger. Free of charge, but obviously inconvenient.

isnottheword · 11-04-2017 11:07PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What happens if you do indeed run out of battery in the middle of somewhere .

If you're still under the Nissan warranty, there's a number you can call for a flatbed. Otherwise, if you purchase the right insurance policy with breakdown cover, they will do the same - dropping you off at the nearest charging point. (oops - I forgot this is the Ioniq thread - do Hyundai offer something similar??)

That said, I don't really want to find myself in that position - I'd rather pre-empt it.

BorneTobyWilde · 11-04-2017 11:10PM

Maybe one could carry a spare can of electricity in the boot.

unkel · 11-04-2017 11:11PM

isnottheword wrote: »

if you purchase the right insurance policy with breakdown cover, they will do the same

I think pretty much all comprehensive policies have breakdown cover these days as standard? Mine have had for many years. Before that I was an AA member.

unkel · 11-04-2017 11:14PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Maybe one could carry a spare can of electricity in the boot.

I was going to post something smart like that, you funny man!

But if you do tend to run out (some people can't help themselves), you could always carry a tiny genny and a small can of petrol. Running it for half an hour with the granny cable might just get you were you need to be, but it's a bit of a silly thing to carry around I guess.

grogi · 11-04-2017 11:21PM

unkel wrote: »

I was going to post something smart like that, you funny man!

But if you do tend to run out (some people can't help themselves), you could always carry a tiny genny and a small can of petrol. Running it for half an hour with the granny cable might just get you were you need to be, but it's a bit of a silly thing to carry around I guess.

It is a DIY hybrid

unkel · 11-04-2017 11:37PM

DIY Rex

11-04-2017 11:54PM

650Ginge wrote: »

Because you can move closer to work.

One of Mr Money Mustaches rules and he aint ever wrong, except about dogs, he is wrong about dogs.

You mean move closer to Dublin and pay over inflated house prices ? you must be joking !

punisher5112 · 11-04-2017 11:57PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You mean move closer to Dublin and pay over inflated house prices ? you must be joking !

Try find a place. Sheds is all I see starting at 1400 or more. Houses next to my dads at 3 bed dumps rented out for 2,500 because they are near some metal thing on rails.

goz83 · 12-04-2017 12:08AM

unkel wrote: »

I think pretty much all comprehensive policies have breakdown cover these days as standard? Mine have had for many years. Before that I was an AA member.

I was an AA member. Then their policy of putting women first turned me against them. If my car breaks down and a woman can call for help after me and get priority for no other reason than she is a woman....then I take my business elsewhere.

unkel · 12-04-2017 12:33AM

Woot? That's outrageous alright. When did that start?

isnottheword · 12-04-2017 12:37AM

unkel wrote: »

I think pretty much all comprehensive policies have breakdown cover these days as standard? Mine have had for many years. Before that I was an AA member.

See my thread on EV insurance quotes. 25plus.ie are the only one thus far that don't.

goz83 wrote:

I was an AA member. Then their policy of putting women first turned me against them. If my car breaks down and a woman can call for help after me and get priority for no other reason than she is a woman....then I take my business elsewhere.

I assume that's no longer the case given the introduction of risk equalisation (i.e. insurers have to quote same prices to both sexes)?

goz83 · 12-04-2017 01:40AM

isnottheword wrote: »

I assume that's no longer the case given the introduction of risk equalisation (i.e. insurers have to quote same prices to both sexes)?

The price was the same. It was just that women were given priority.....incase they were broken down in some dark lane, surrounded by monsters. Unfair to men and insulting to women.

12-04-2017 01:50AM

goz83 wrote: »

I was an AA member. Then their policy of putting women first turned me against them. If my car breaks down and a woman can call for help after me and get priority for no other reason than she is a woman....then I take my business elsewhere.

I thought it was funny in Germany when in a multi storey car park I saw car parking spaces marked "Women only" must take a pic next time I'm there.

12-04-2017 01:53AM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Try find a place. Sheds is all I see starting at 1400 or more. Houses next to my dads at 3 bed dumps rented out for 2,500 because they are near some metal thing on rails.

Yeah it's a mad country !

No family should have to spend more than 150,000 for most of the sh1t holes available in this country. Terrace and semi Detached going for 250,000 + for a 3 bed with tiny rooms and hardly a garden at the rear and concert at the front and 6 foot concrete walls all around and no proper place for Children to play !

It's horrible what has been done to this Island. Joke of a country.

goz83 · 12-04-2017 01:53AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought it was funny in Germany when in a multi storey car park I saw car parking spaces marked "Women only" must take a pic next time I'm there.

Extra wide? Drive straight in one side and out the other? Pay with Boots Loyalty Points? :pac:

I'll get my coat.

Mope · 12-04-2017 07:42AM

Right, have some time on my hands so I said I will sum up my experience in few sentences.

In one word - I am blown away. Like, don't get me wrong, I knew what I am buying after all videos, reviews and test drive, but actually owning the car is different story. Configuring stuff you like, using all the driving assistance and etc.

I actually like the fact that this car is somewhat planted on road, it is not like a boat floating around (like VW Passat 132 or Audi A4) - which I really like. Firm, but comfortable ride.

Adaptive cruise is a God sent thing! M50 in traffic hour is a peace of cake now. Just enable it, set to the speed you wish, adjust distance to the car (!) in front and that is it. I have to say it took good few times before I started to trust the system.

! Warning / Note / Attention !
Regarding Adaptive and Distance - when using any of these and especially distance be Logical about it. If speed increases do not leave it on short to medium. Be very mindful if road has bends (even M50 type of bends) as front sensor sometimes spots the car in other lane and starts accelerating to the set speed, then obviously starts braking when acquires car in your lane - this is somewhat dangerous and also very not good for fuel efficiency.

I also had a chance to experience how car brakes itself to avoid collision! Freaking amazing! Not that I wanted to test it, it just happened. I had speed set to 55 with Adaptive Cruise and i think distance level 2 (see Warning above) on Drumcondra rd towards City. There was a stretch of clear road so car accelerated and then at the next red light started to slowdown but it was way too slow to stop before hitting the car. (I had set collision avoidance to "Early" in the menu before leaving). The car Actually sensed that it will collide and applied emergency braking - awesome! Dash blinked red for a fraction of second and brakes were slammed.

Will do my first FCP at Square shopping center this lunch time (colleagues can't wait to see how the car is).

Any questions - just ask :]

ELM327 · 12-04-2017 08:34AM

goz83 wrote: »

I was an AA member. Then their policy of putting women first turned me against them. If my car breaks down and a woman can call for help after me and get priority for no other reason than she is a woman....then I take my business elsewhere.

That's ridiculous.
As an AA member I am shocked at this rampant sexism and also that it is not communicated.

How do you know of this policy

unkel · 12-04-2017 09:32AM

Mope wrote: »

I actually like the fact that this car is somewhat planted on road, it is not like a boat floating around (like VW Passat 132 or Audi A4) - which I really like. Firm, but comfortable ride.

Yeah, exact same feeling here. Didn't strike me as such while on my test drive, but I've done a lot more motorway driving at speed and the car feels more like a large car another size up. Very stable and planted at speed (and I'm talking more than 100km/h here

)

Got 11kWh/100km over the last day or so, nothing different, still driving fast, but a bit less fast motorway, just the M50 (up to about 120km/h). This really is more like a 250-300km range car (for mixed driving), for almost all of the year in the mild Irish climate, if you drive like an average person and stick to the limits

And I wouldn't trust any of the "safety" features such as LKAS, adaptive cruise and auto emergency braking. You can let them help you and they might prevent accidents, but I wouldn't trust them. We're not there yet. I'd say Tesla is several steps ahead compared to most other manufacturers' current rollout of autonomous driving features...

goz83 · 12-04-2017 09:38AM

ELM327 wrote: »

That's ridiculous.
As an AA member I am shocked at this rampant sexism and also that it is not communicated.

How do you know of this policy

They used to advertise it. Also it was a huge point their shopping centre sales reps made. I don't see it advertised on their website anymore, but a google search showed up this => https://www.facebook.com/RAC/posts/10153230818781370

Had another look at their website. Seems they have swapped out Women for Members. Bottom of page. http://www.theaa.ie/aa/aa-membership/whats-covered.aspx

bk · 12-04-2017 11:00AM

Deleted User wrote: »

You mean move closer to Dublin and pay over inflated house prices ? you must be joking !

punisher5112 wrote: »

Try find a place. Sheds is all I see starting at 1400 or more. Houses next to my dads at 3 bed dumps rented out for 2,500 because they are near some metal thing on rails.

That is the problem isn't it, like many Irish people you want a 3 bedroom house, even within a city! That is the choice I'm on about.

Irish people have a massive mental block about living in apartments.

I made a different choice. I got a nice 2 bed apartment, just 30 minutes walk from my work and Dublin City Center and I love it.

Sure for the same money I could have gotten a 3 to 4 bedroom house way outside of the city, would have needed to buy a car and would have ended up spending all my time commuting.

Instead I save a large amount of money by not owning a car, have a very pleasant 30 minute walk home from work and get lots of extra time to spend with my family, while you guys commute long distances to your big houses!

With the money I save on not driving, I get to spend it on socialising and travel, 3 to 4 nights a week out in Dublin/Cork and with all the different places and events of Dublin right on my doorstep.

My colleagues who earn the same, but instead decided to buy the big house all look like zombies every day from all the commuting they do and they are always amazed by all the travel and socialising that I do and can't understand how I can afford it.

And yes before anyone says it, yes I have a kid. Still plenty of space in a two bedroom apartment for one to two kids. My apartment has lots of green space all around it for the kids to play in. Well over half the apartments in my building have kids and they all play together during the warmer days outside with one or two of the parents watching over them. There is a really good community spirit here.

So yes, it is a choice. We Irish continually make a dumb choice to want to live in 3 bed semi's even in a big city. This is why we have a housing crisis and why people are commuting insane distances.

What we should be doing is building high quality apartments, designed for families in mind, with green areas and play grounds below and close to public transport. A more European type mindset rather then the frankly insane US car culture mindset.

But don't kid yourself, it is definitely a choice.

Soarer · 12-04-2017 11:05AM

bk wrote: »

That is the problem isn't it, like many Irish people you want a 3 bedroom house, even within a city! That is the choice I'm on about.

Irish people have a massive mental block about living in apartments.

I made a different choice. I got a nice 2 bed apartment, just 30 minutes walk from my work and Dublin City Center and I love it.

Sure for the same money I could have gotten a 3 to 4 bedroom house way outside of the city, would have needed to buy a car and would have ended up spending all my time commuting.

Instead I save a large amount of money by not owning a car, have a very pleasant 30 minute walk home from work and get lots of extra time to spend with my family, while you guys commute long distances to your big houses!

With the money I save on not driving, I get to spend it on socialising and travel, 3 to 4 nights a week out in Dublin/Cork and with all the different places and events of Dublin right on my doorstep.

My colleagues who earn the same, but instead decided to buy the big house all look like zombies every day from all the commuting they do and they are always amazed by all the travel and socialising that I do and can't understand how I can afford it.

And yes before anyone says it, yes I have a kid. Still plenty of space in a two bedroom apartment for one to two kids. My apartment has lots of green space all around it for the kids to play in. Well over half the apartments in my building have kids and they all play together during the warmer days outside with one or two of the parents watching over them. There is a really good community spirit here.

So yes, it is a choice. We Irish continually make a dumb choice to want to live in 3 bed semi's even in a big city. This is why we have a housing crisis and why people are commuting insane distances.

What we should be doing is building high quality apartments, designed for families in mind, with green areas and play grounds below and close to public transport. A more European type mindset rather then the frankly insane US car culture mindset.

But don't kid yourself, it is definitely a choice.

Get out of here you hippy!

Shefwedfan · 12-04-2017 11:57AM

Mope wrote: »

Right, have some time on my hands so I said I will sum up my experience in few sentences.

In one word - I am blown away. Like, don't get me wrong, I knew what I am buying after all videos, reviews and test drive, but actually owning the car is different story. Configuring stuff you like, using all the driving assistance and etc.

I actually like the fact that this car is somewhat planted on road, it is not like a boat floating around (like VW Passat 132 or Audi A4) - which I really like. Firm, but comfortable ride.

Adaptive cruise is a God sent thing! M50 in traffic hour is a peace of cake now. Just enable it, set to the speed you wish, adjust distance to the car (!) in front and that is it. I have to say it took good few times before I started to trust the system.

! Warning / Note / Attention !
Regarding Adaptive and Distance - when using any of these and especially distance be Logical about it. If speed increases do not leave it on short to medium. Be very mindful if road has bends (even M50 type of bends) as front sensor sometimes spots the car in other lane and starts accelerating to the set speed, then obviously starts braking when acquires car in your lane - this is somewhat dangerous and also very not good for fuel efficiency.

I also had a chance to experience how car brakes itself to avoid collision! Freaking amazing! Not that I wanted to test it, it just happened. I had speed set to 55 with Adaptive Cruise and i think distance level 2 (see Warning above) on Drumcondra rd towards City. There was a stretch of clear road so car accelerated and then at the next red light started to slowdown but it was way too slow to stop before hitting the car. (I had set collision avoidance to "Early" in the menu before leaving). The car Actually sensed that it will collide and applied emergency braking - awesome! Dash blinked red for a fraction of second and brakes were slammed.

Will do my first FCP at Square shopping center this lunch time (colleagues can't wait to see how the car is).

Any questions - just ask :]

I guess you haven't used cruise control or adaptive cruise control before? it is not meant for city driving or M50 driving.

It is meant for open roads. I use it on motorway when it is open driving. So after I get out of Dublin I flick it on and use it all the way to Cork.

That is what cruise control is meant for. Adaptive is just an add on to help you having to stop using cruise control. SO you can stay asleep

I know on some of my other cars you needed to be at least at 40-50kph before you could use. Not sure yet on Golf as I havent tested, I did use on M3 recently and adaptive worked perfect

Using cruise in city driving or really on M50 and you are going to crash......

cros13 · 12-04-2017 12:06PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I know on some of my other cars you needed to be at least at 40-50kph before you could use.

The newer adaptive cruise on cars like the i3 and Ioniq are camera-based systems (sometimes assisted by radar as well, but the primary sensor is the camera).

These systems actually tend to work better in traffic than at higher speeds, operate from 0km/h and can usually handle steering in traffic jams as well.

BMW even calls their assistive driving system "Traffic Assist". It's an entirely different animal to the radar-based adaptive cruise on the BMWs and Mercs of the past.

650Ginge · 12-04-2017 12:38PM

bk wrote: »

That is the problem isn't it, like many Irish people you want a 3 bedroom house, even within a city! That is the choice I'm on about.

Irish people have a massive mental block about living in apartments.

I made a different choice. I got a nice 2 bed apartment, just 30 minutes walk from my work and Dublin City Center and I love it.

Sure for the same money I could have gotten a 3 to 4 bedroom house way outside of the city, would have needed to buy a car and would have ended up spending all my time commuting.

Instead I save a large amount of money by not owning a car, have a very pleasant 30 minute walk home from work and get lots of extra time to spend with my family, while you guys commute long distances to your big houses!

With the money I save on not driving, I get to spend it on socialising and travel, 3 to 4 nights a week out in Dublin/Cork and with all the different places and events of Dublin right on my doorstep.

My colleagues who earn the same, but instead decided to buy the big house all look like zombies every day from all the commuting they do and they are always amazed by all the travel and socialising that I do and can't understand how I can afford it.

And yes before anyone says it, yes I have a kid. Still plenty of space in a two bedroom apartment for one to two kids. My apartment has lots of green space all around it for the kids to play in. Well over half the apartments in my building have kids and they all play together during the warmer days outside with one or two of the parents watching over them. There is a really good community spirit here.

So yes, it is a choice. We Irish continually make a dumb choice to want to live in 3 bed semi's even in a big city. This is why we have a housing crisis and why people are commuting insane distances.

What we should be doing is building high quality apartments, designed for families in mind, with green areas and play grounds below and close to public transport. A more European type mindset rather then the frankly insane US car culture mindset.

But don't kid yourself, it is definitely a choice.

Would you care to share the apartments you live in? I'm defo in too big a house too far out. An apartment is all I need but its a mine field picking one.

Pm me either.

I won't be getting rid of my car though. I love cars buy they do cost a lot more than people think.

Even Evs.

Living in town EV with ioniq range for weekends would be a good fit for me.

Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

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