Premier League trying to fight streaming, can the war be won?

Jayop · 10-04-2017 05:57PM

Bunley could have been a better shout, or previously QPR or the likes of Cardiff. To pick on Bournemouth is very strange. It's not like there wasn't small clubs in the league when the likes of Newcastle, Leeds and Villa were there. Big clubs and small clubs go up and down. For the likes of Villa, I honestly couldn't have been happier when they went down despite having a bit f a soft spot for them. They had become depressing to watch or play against at that stage. Same for Newcastle. I'll be glad to see them back up but they were no craic at all in the end.

jive · 10-04-2017 05:58PM

Jayop wrote: »

I'd say in all respect to Tipp that his view is informed by the fact his club are no longer in the top battles (neither is mine) and that effects how we judge players even from other teams. When Keane and co we're going up against those great Arsenal teams we were rating their players so highly because we knew our players were great and they were matching them so often. Now I look at the league and see Hazard having a field day against my club and think that it's not as big an achievement because we're relatively poorer.

The fact is though that the likes of Aguero, Hazard, and a few others are up there with the best the league has ever produced. It's just that right at this moment the best players are playing for clubs not supported in big numbers in Ireland and as a result we rate them below our previous greats.

I feel the same way, seemed like they cared more back in the day with Keane, viera and the likes. The players like cantona and bergkamp were super stylish in comparison to today's work horses like mane and lukaku.

In reality I know I've just grown up and don't care as much today as I did back then

the harsh reality of time is relentless

JamboMac · 10-04-2017 05:58PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Leeds, Villa and Newcastle are big clubs.

Bournemouth are not.Their stadium holds 11 thousand.

The likes of Leeds,Newcastle and Villa being good like they were for a long while was good for the premier league because they provided big matches Bournemouth and small clubs like them don't.It doesn't matter how nice their football is nobody gives a toss about them , the clubs I mentioned are big names and that tends to be good for the league.

Newcastle finished 4th in 2002 and 3rd in 2003, 5th in 2012.

Villa and Leeds finished in the top 6 or 7 quite often before their relegations.

Leeds aren't really a big club and its been 13 years since they have seen the premier league. Leeds are in their with the sheffield wednesday of the past, where big teams and where built off large investment which was the downfall in the end.

chopperbyrne · 10-04-2017 06:09PM

Leeds are on course to securing a playoff spot, and it will be great for the EPL if both Leeds and Newcastle get promoted.

None of that has anything to do with illegal streaming though.

That war will never be won, until an affordable, legal alternative is offered.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 10-04-2017 06:10PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Not sure why you have singled out Bournemouth. Many of there games have been great to watch.
Especially the home games against Liverpool & Arsenal.

They've been on TV for the last couple of Saturday night games.Thats why I picked them.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 10-04-2017 06:13PM

JamboMac wrote: »

Leeds aren't really a big club and its been 13 years since they have seen the premier league. Leeds are in their with the sheffield wednesday of the past, where big teams and where built off large investment which was the downfall in the end.

Leeds aren't really a big club?

Leeds is the biggest City in England with only one team.They're a huge club they've just been badly mismanaged.

JamboMac · 10-04-2017 06:22PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Leeds aren't really a big club?

Leeds is the biggest City in England with only one team.They're a huge club they've just been badly mismanaged.

Big club equals title won not how big a city you are in and many clubs eclipse leeds.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 10-04-2017 06:28PM

JamboMac wrote: »

Big club equals title won not how big a city you are in and many clubs eclipse leeds.

They've won 3 league titles and are one of only 7 english teams to get to a European Cup final.

JamboMac · 10-04-2017 06:36PM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

They've won 3 league titles and are one of only 7 english teams to get to a European Cup final.

Here is sheffield wednesday honours.

http://www.11v11.com/teams/sheffield-wednesday/tab/honours/

http://www.11v11.com/teams/leeds-united/tab/honours/

Who has won more?

Oh and can't find the european cup leeds reached the final in, pretty sure they only got as far as the semi's which leicester are close to doing.

10-04-2017 06:54PM

JamboMac wrote: »

Here is sheffield wednesday honours.

http://www.11v11.com/teams/sheffield-wednesday/tab/honours/

http://www.11v11.com/teams/leeds-united/tab/honours/

Who has won more?

Oh and can't find the european cup leeds reached the final in, pretty sure they only got as far as the semi's which leicester are close to doing.

1975 v Bayern Munich. You really need to do your homework better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bov7NckEIFo

JamboMac · 10-04-2017 07:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

1975 v Bayern Munich. You really need to do your homework better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bov7NckEIFo

No somebody who is claiming that somebody is a big needs to prove that and that still doesn't. Sorry.

eagle eye · 10-04-2017 07:27PM

How did a thread about the Premier league trying to fight streaming turn into an argument about whether teams are big or not?

Riesen_Meal · 10-04-2017 07:42PM

Saw a match being streamed on Twitch the other day and gave me a giggle...

The way I see it is if my team gave me an online option to see all their games for a yearly fee I would be all over it, until that day I will stick to my means...

the whole year inn · 10-04-2017 07:48PM

Theres a big market for this, people won't always go the illegal way, if there was a high quality and reliable streaming service then I'd buy it. Why doesn't someone fill this gap?

Riesen_Meal · 10-04-2017 07:51PM

the whole year inn wrote: »

Why doesn't someone fill this gap?

Sky and BT pay the EU rights, that's why....

irishman86 · 10-04-2017 07:52PM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Leeds are on course to securing a playoff spot, and it will be great for the EPL if both Leeds and Newcastle get promoted.

None of that has anything to do with illegal streaming though.

That war will never be won, until an affordable, legal alternative is offered.

Similar to Spotify and Netflix. I hold my hands up and honestly say I torrented, but not really anymore with my Amazon/Spotify/Netflix it covers most of my tv needs. I would love for something like this for football

Jan_de_Bakker · 10-04-2017 09:52PM

Pity they don´t have a pay per view system - but per game, no minimum subscription - and reasonable prices, like €5 for an EPL match ...

I'd pay that.

This €30/ month for a basic Sky Sports package is horse**** ..

Jayop · 10-04-2017 09:55PM

Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »

Pity they don´t have a pay per view system - but per game, no minimum subscription - and reasonable prices, like €5 for an EPL match ...

I'd pay that.

This €30/ month for a basic Sky Sports package is horse**** ..

Fiver for a league match on telly? Not a bloody hope would I pay that much. There's weekends I might watch 7 or 8 games.

the whole year inn · 10-04-2017 09:59PM

Jayop wrote: »

Fiver for a league match on telly? Not a bloody hope would I pay that much. There's weekends I might watch 7 or 8 games.

Well 6 for me and wouldn't pay that either.

citytillidie · 10-04-2017 10:02PM

Now TV is sort of getting there for sky £10 a week for access to all Sky Sports channels live, so you could time it to just when your team is on and get the pass. It is £6.99 for 24 hour access

Beasty · 10-04-2017 10:36PM

Jayop wrote: »

Fiver for a league match on telly? Not a bloody hope would I pay that much. There's weekends I might watch 7 or 8 games.

Not much more than 20 years ago I was paying per match that for the top priced season ticket at OT. It's gone up 10 fold since then.

They will charge what they think they can get away with and even if a few drop out they will do the maths and continue increasing the price as long as it helps them grow overall revenues. They may be getting near to saturation in the UK&I but there are also other markets out there to exploit, as well as pricing in the foreign coverage they provide

theoneeyedman · 10-04-2017 10:47PM

Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »

Pity they don´t have a pay per view system - but per game, no minimum subscription - and reasonable prices, like €5 for an EPL match ...

I'd pay that.

This €30/ month for a basic Sky Sports package is horse**** ..

Plus 30 for basic channels like RTE BBC etc, most of which are free anyway

Fr Tod Umptious · 11-04-2017 07:00AM

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Plus 30 for basic channels like RTE BBC etc, most of which are free anyway

The way I look at it now is that I'm not paying sky for the channels but more for the service, the pause and rewind, the on demand etc.

Nothing else matches it for functionality

Jan_de_Bakker · 11-04-2017 08:52AM

There is 24 hour access ?
is available internationally ?

edit just checked not available outside the UK ... pity ..

Oat23 · 12-04-2017 09:45AM

Not football related but Sky price gouging related. Joshua v Klitschko is €24.95 on sky box office on the 29th. If you turned your dish 9 degrees you'd get it free on RTL Germany...

€25 for a PPV is ridiculous money..

12-04-2017 09:58AM

Oat23 wrote: »

Not football related but Sky price gouging related. Joshua v Klitschko is €24.95 on sky box office on the 29th. If you turned your dish 9 degrees you'd get it free on RTL Germany...

€25 for a PPV is ridiculous money..

Don't go to America so

Oat23 · 12-04-2017 10:01AM

Liam O wrote: »

Don't go to America so

I was about to rant about the US prices in that post but I'm on my phone and can't be bothered!

JamboMac · 12-04-2017 10:53AM

Isn't Australia considerably cheaper for sky packages?

noodler · 13-04-2017 09:52AM

Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »

There is 24 hour access ?
is available internationally ?

edit just checked not available outside the UK ... pity ..

Works for me.

Just downloaded the APP using a UK account on PS3/4.

Minderbinder · 13-04-2017 10:25AM

Deleted User wrote: »

RoboKlopp wrote: »

That's everyone told.

Cancel those subscriptions and set fire to those android boxes folks! MOTD is plenty.

Well im only giving my own personal opinion to be honest but at the same time i kinda struggle to understand how the Premier League still holds the appeal.

Well imo if you're only watching motd as your source for PL football then I can totally understand why you find it unappealing.

Premier League trying to fight streaming, can the war be won?

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