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Explosion at Dortmund hotel when team bus was leaving

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  • #32
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    CoolHandBandit wrote: »
    Jesus I hope the Islamists aren't moving onto IED's. Very very worrying

    Huh?

    They have been using IED's for a long time.


  • #33
    C Montgomery Gurns II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭C Montgomery Gurns II


    madcabbage wrote: »
    Very worrying that it's taking this long to establish what the hell is really going. Please god the poor lad is ok.

    The German authorities are very wary of giving out any details on these type of events as it usually turns out that it has been perpetrated by the bleedin obvious.

    I don't think it will turn out to bethe case in this instance, but they have to be extra careful to ensure that if it was a child of Mama Merkel that the news is supressed and we hear the usual guff about Christian H from Hamburg, a mentally ill German who has never had as much as a tan and who carried out the attack wearing a Swastika emblazoned leiderhosen.


  • #34
    CoolHandBandit
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    Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »
    Huh?

    They have been using IED's for a long time.

    Not in Europe they haven't. That's why it would be worrying.


  • #35
    C Montgomery Gurns II
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    Irishmale0399 wrote: »
    Confirmation just in from a very good source......bus had bullet proof glass. That is the reason for the used of bombs and not fireworks/crackers.

    Christ, if it could smash bullet proof glass it was certainly more than hooligan banter. The blast was presumably from a distance, the body of the bus seems intact.


  • #36
    murpho999
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    madcabbage wrote: »
    Very worrying that it's taking this long to establish what the hell is really going. Please god the poor lad is ok.

    How is it worrying? I got my first news alert 55 minutes ago, I don't see that as slow at all.

    After that there's always confusion and conflicting reports.


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  • #37
    murpho999
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    Irishmale0399 wrote: »
    Confirmation just in from a very good source......bus had bullet proof glass. That is the reason for the used of bombs and not fireworks/crackers.

    What sort of source would you have in relation to German team buses and their windows?


  • #38
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
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    In other threads, people are pissed off that the match didn't go ahead. Like, seriously? "My evening is ruined now"...


  • #39
    Irishmale0399
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    C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »
    Christ, if it could smash bullet proof glass it was certainly more than hooligan banter. The blast was presumably from a distance, the body of the bus seems intact.

    Reports now are that Police are using robots etc. to search for further devices around the hotel.

    German Police will not give much info until they are forced too. Be sure they will not say it was this or that unless the press force their hand. Everything to keep people calm before the game tomorrow.


  • #40
    beertons
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    Sure they can sit back now and watch Barca get beat in Italy.


  • #41
    CoolHandBandit
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    Just seen the pictures of the bus. Doesn't look serious at all tbh fcuk.


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  • #42
    Donal55
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    Ariella Cuddly Plant wrote: »
    In other threads, people are pissed off that the match didn't go ahead. Like, seriously? "My evening is ruined now"...

    Well this is UEFA.
    Anyone else remember Heysel when 30 plus Italians died.
    An hour or so later the match was played.

    Juve won 1-0 by the way.


  • #43
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    CoolHandBandit wrote: »
    Not in Europe they haven't. That's why it would be worrying.

    Seriously?

    You do know that IED's have been used in Europe by other groups.

    Um the November 2015 attacks at Stade de France.

    The attack on the Bataclan in Paris.

    Attack at Ataturk Airport in Turkey.

    The 2004 Madrid train bombing and the failed one in Cologne.

    The threat is not new and neither is the modus operandi of Jihadist / terror organisations.


  • #44
    ThisRegard
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    CoolHandBandit wrote: »
    Not in Europe they haven't. That's why it would be worrying.

    Most, if not all, bombs​ in Europe by terrorist group are IEDs.


  • #45
    Irishmale0399
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    What sort of source would you have in relation to German team buses and their windows?

    Did I say German team buses??? I said the team bus.

    However to answer your question....
    1. Man make/sponsor buses for most German clubs. A tour of the DFB football museum will allow you to get the info...seems to be standard.

    2. Club/Police/Sky confirmed it to the press

    3. Some of us live and work outside of Ireland for various German companies such as BVBs sponsors, partners or maybe even the club itself.


  • #46
    NomadicGray
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    What sort of source would you have in relation to German team buses and their windows?

    his hole


  • #47
    ThisRegard
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    What sort of source would you have in relation to German team buses and their windows?

    Autoglass?


  • #48
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    CoolHandBandit wrote: »
    Just seen the pictures of the bus. Doesn't look serious at all tbh fcuk.

    If you were standing between the detonation point and the target, it would be very serious.

    The blast damage to the bulletproof glass is a good indication of that.


  • #49
    PARlance
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    Ariella Cuddly Plant wrote: »
    In other threads, people are pissed off that the match didn't go ahead. Like, seriously? "My evening is ruined now"...

    Especially when Juve Barca is on as well.


  • #50
    Luggnuts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 106 ✭✭Luggnuts


    begbysback wrote: »
    Dortmund are at home, surely their fans aren't throwing stuff at their own team bus

    The hatred between Schalke 04 and their bitter rivals Dortmund can be pretty intense. Having said that I don't think it's as murderous as Rangers-Celtic or Flamengo / Vasco De Gama where fans' buses are routinely shot at or targetted with pipe bombs. Attacking the team bus is usually off limits to hooligans.


  • #51
    drdeadlift
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    Pac1Man wrote: »
    It's probably Islamic extremists.

    Are we worried about offending extremists here?


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  • #52
    CantGetNoSleep
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    Donal55 wrote: »
    Well this is UEFA.
    Anyone else remember Heysel when 30 plus Italians died.
    An hour or so later the match was played.

    Juve won 1-0 by the way.

    No one remembers that because Liverpool fans don't like you to remember it. The 96 though...


  • #53
    CoolHandBandit
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    Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »
    If you were standing between the detonation point and the target, it would be very serious.

    The blast damage to the bulletproof glass is a good indication of that.

    The team bus is bulletproof?


  • #54
    sjb25
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    CoolHandBandit wrote: »
    Not in Europe they haven't. That's why it would be worrying.

    The RA were using IEDs years ago big barrel of fertiliser


  • #55
    Luggnuts
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    Avada wrote: »
    Smashed windows in the bus, must have been some firecracker

    Is a combination of rocks, bottles and firecrackers completely out of the question or must it be automatically assumed that it was some kind of lethal explosive device?


  • #56
    Irishmale0399
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    CoolHandBandit wrote: »
    The team bus is bulletproof?

    All glass on the bus is bullet proof. Metal areas reinforced...


  • #57
    CoolHandBandit
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 263 ✭✭CoolHandBandit


    sjb25 wrote: »
    The RA were using IEDs years ago big barrel of fertiliser

    Ok I'm talking about Islamic terrorists using roadside IED's.


  • #58
    CoolHandBandit
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    Irishmale0399 wrote: »
    All glass on the bus is bullet proof. Metal areas reinforced...

    How do you know this. Any link?


  • #59
    PARlance
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Autoglass?

    Das Right


  • #60
    Irishmale0399
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    AS Monaco currently holding a training session within the stadium. Assume this is to allow the police to sort a few things out before moving them.

    BVB players currently leaving team hotel and returning to their families for the night. They will be meeting up again tomorrow late morning most likely at the club training complex


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  • #61
    Luggnuts
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    CoolHandBandit wrote: »
    Jesus I hope the Islamists aren't moving onto IED's. Very very worrying

    And what would you call London, Madrid, Boston, Moscow? Were those bombs over-the-counter devices?


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