Explosion at Dortmund hotel when team bus was leaving

IvyTheTerrible

There has been an explosion at a hotel in Dortmund when a team bus was leaving to go to the stadium for the Champions League match against Monaco.
One player has been injured.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39571776

The match has been cancelled.

Doyler92

Marc Bartra is the injured player and has been taken to hospital.

GLaDOS

Early reports say it was just a firecracker

murpho999

GLaDOS wrote: »

Early reports say it was just a firecracker

Was more than a firecracker to put windows in and injure a player.

Game postponed until tomorrow.

KERSPLAT!

Mod

As per usual, please stay civil and no speculation. Thanks.

Hopefully nothing sinister in it.

KERSPLAT!

murpho999 wrote: »

Was more than a firecracker to put windows in and injure a player.

Game postponed until tomorrow.

A banger would shatter glass which could easily cause injury to someone on board.

Avada

GLaDOS wrote: »

Early reports say it was just a firecracker

Smashed windows in the bus, must have been some firecracker

Penny Tration

Borussia Dortmund are apparently saying now that it was three explosions.

Match postponed til Wednesday

NIMAN

Apparently cuts to Bartra's arm from a shattered window.

ThisRegard

murpho999 wrote: »

Was more than a firecracker to put windows in and injure a player.

They can be pretty powerful.

Gatling

Several reports are saying 3 explosions near the bus Bartra sustains 'superficial' injuries​,
Still could​ be fireworks and rocks been thrown

rachb

three explosions now been reported on sky news

Pac1Man

It's probably Islamic extremists.

begbysback

Dortmund are at home, surely their fans aren't throwing stuff at their own team bus

Guy Sajer

GLaDOS wrote: »

Early reports say it was just a firecracker

liberals first out of the blocks of course

Donal55

rachb wrote: »

three explosions now been reported on sky news

Probably 3 firecrackers. Set off by mentally unstable person of course.

Irishmale0399

A few facts direct from Dortmund:

1. Reports are that up to 3 devices were in a hedge along the road the bus was travelling on not to far from the team hotel.

2. Bartra has an injured hand. Supposed to be glass related.

3. Police are currently investigating.

4. Fans being advised at the moment to stay in the stadium until further details are known. Stadium is closed...no one coming in or out.

5. Team are currently leaving the team hotel to an un identified place.

Nothing is currently known about how big the devices were. Only that the bus has been damaged in a way that prevented it from driving further.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

The official twitter of Dortmund are now referring to it as a bomb attack.

ThisRegard

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Only that the bus has been damaged in a way that prevented it from driving further.

Damage looks relatively limited, as if something was thrown at the window as the area around the window shows no signs of shrapnel.

Irishmale0399

ThisRegard wrote: »

Damage looks relatively limited, as if something was thrown at the window as the area around the window shows no signs of shrapnel.

Definately nothing thrown as it stands at the moment. Seems to have been from at least 3 devices.....Police are talking about small bombs.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

There is an image of the damage here, it appears to be contained to the last two rows of seats. I don't think this was a direct bomb attack, close by maybe.

madcabbage

Very worrying that it's taking this long to establish what the hell is really going. Please god the poor lad is ok.

Gatling

madcabbage wrote: »

Please god the poor lad is ok.

Bartra sustains 'superficial' injuries to his hand glass related

Armchair Andy

Monaco supporters chanting Dortmund in the Westfallenstadion.

Harry Palmr

madcabbage wrote: »

Very worrying that it's taking this long to establish what the hell is really going. Please god the poor lad is ok.

Bartra's superficial injury was known and reported about 15 mins after it happened, AH off the pace tonight.

CoolHandBandit

Jesus I hope the Islamists aren't moving onto IED's. Very very worrying

Mr McBoatface

madcabbage wrote: »

Very worrying that it's taking this long to establish what the hell is really going. Please god the poor lad is ok.

It happened about an hour ago....

C Montgomery Gurns II

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Mod

As per usual, please stay civil and no speculation. Thanks.

Hopefully nothing sinister in it.

This might be quite literally the only time this normally obscene and offensive "no speculation" spiel might actually be correct. Although Monaco aren't to my knowledge renowned hooligans, this very well could be a firework, a pipe bomb that is someone's idea of banter, etc etc.

Savour this one lads, as it will never, ever happen again.

Firecrackers my a$$

ThisRegard

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

Jesus I hope the Islamists aren't moving onto IED's. Very very worrying

Militant terrorist groups have been using them for a long long time, you hardly think they were buying them off the shelf up until now?

Irishmale0399

Confirmation just in from a very good source......bus had bullet proof glass. That is the reason for the used of bombs and not fireworks/crackers.

Barry Badrinath

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

Jesus I hope the Islamists aren't moving onto IED's. Very very worrying

Huh?

They have been using IED's for a long time.

C Montgomery Gurns II

madcabbage wrote: »

Very worrying that it's taking this long to establish what the hell is really going. Please god the poor lad is ok.

The German authorities are very wary of giving out any details on these type of events as it usually turns out that it has been perpetrated by the bleedin obvious.

I don't think it will turn out to bethe case in this instance, but they have to be extra careful to ensure that if it was a child of Mama Merkel that the news is supressed and we hear the usual guff about Christian H from Hamburg, a mentally ill German who has never had as much as a tan and who carried out the attack wearing a Swastika emblazoned leiderhosen.

CoolHandBandit

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Huh?

They have been using IED's for a long time.

Not in Europe they haven't. That's why it would be worrying.

C Montgomery Gurns II

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Confirmation just in from a very good source......bus had bullet proof glass. That is the reason for the used of bombs and not fireworks/crackers.

Christ, if it could smash bullet proof glass it was certainly more than hooligan banter. The blast was presumably from a distance, the body of the bus seems intact.

murpho999

madcabbage wrote: »

Very worrying that it's taking this long to establish what the hell is really going. Please god the poor lad is ok.

How is it worrying? I got my first news alert 55 minutes ago, I don't see that as slow at all.

After that there's always confusion and conflicting reports.

murpho999

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Confirmation just in from a very good source......bus had bullet proof glass. That is the reason for the used of bombs and not fireworks/crackers.

What sort of source would you have in relation to German team buses and their windows?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

In other threads, people are pissed off that the match didn't go ahead. Like, seriously? "My evening is ruined now"...

Irishmale0399

C Montgomery Gurns II wrote: »

Christ, if it could smash bullet proof glass it was certainly more than hooligan banter. The blast was presumably from a distance, the body of the bus seems intact.

Reports now are that Police are using robots etc. to search for further devices around the hotel.

German Police will not give much info until they are forced too. Be sure they will not say it was this or that unless the press force their hand. Everything to keep people calm before the game tomorrow.

beertons

Sure they can sit back now and watch Barca get beat in Italy.

CoolHandBandit

Just seen the pictures of the bus. Doesn't look serious at all tbh fcuk.

Donal55

Ariella Cuddly Plant wrote: »

In other threads, people are pissed off that the match didn't go ahead. Like, seriously? "My evening is ruined now"...

Well this is UEFA.
Anyone else remember Heysel when 30 plus Italians died.
An hour or so later the match was played.

Juve won 1-0 by the way.

Barry Badrinath

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

Not in Europe they haven't. That's why it would be worrying.

Seriously?

You do know that IED's have been used in Europe by other groups.

Um the November 2015 attacks at Stade de France.

The attack on the Bataclan in Paris.

Attack at Ataturk Airport in Turkey.

The 2004 Madrid train bombing and the failed one in Cologne.

The threat is not new and neither is the modus operandi of Jihadist / terror organisations.

ThisRegard

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

Not in Europe they haven't. That's why it would be worrying.

Most, if not all, bombs​ in Europe by terrorist group are IEDs.

Irishmale0399

murpho999 wrote: »

What sort of source would you have in relation to German team buses and their windows?

Did I say German team buses??? I said the team bus.

However to answer your question....
1. Man make/sponsor buses for most German clubs. A tour of the DFB football museum will allow you to get the info...seems to be standard.

2. Club/Police/Sky confirmed it to the press

3. Some of us live and work outside of Ireland for various German companies such as BVBs sponsors, partners or maybe even the club itself.

NomadicGray

murpho999 wrote: »

What sort of source would you have in relation to German team buses and their windows?

his hole

ThisRegard

murpho999 wrote: »

What sort of source would you have in relation to German team buses and their windows?

Autoglass?

Barry Badrinath

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

Just seen the pictures of the bus. Doesn't look serious at all tbh fcuk.

If you were standing between the detonation point and the target, it would be very serious.

The blast damage to the bulletproof glass is a good indication of that.

PARlance

Ariella Cuddly Plant wrote: »

In other threads, people are pissed off that the match didn't go ahead. Like, seriously? "My evening is ruined now"...

Especially when Juve Barca is on as well.

Luggnuts

begbysback wrote: »

Dortmund are at home, surely their fans aren't throwing stuff at their own team bus

The hatred between Schalke 04 and their bitter rivals Dortmund can be pretty intense. Having said that I don't think it's as murderous as Rangers-Celtic or Flamengo / Vasco De Gama where fans' buses are routinely shot at or targetted with pipe bombs. Attacking the team bus is usually off limits to hooligans.

drdeadlift

Pac1Man wrote: »

It's probably Islamic extremists.

Are we worried about offending extremists here?