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do you care much for manners/etiquette?

  • 08-04-2017 07:20PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭


    Is it something you watch out for, and measure someone on?

    I wouldn't care for the finer details like what way you hold your cutlery at the dinner table, but stuff like cleaning up after yourself, paying back what you owe, apologizing when you've done wrong, those things help me make an overall judgement on a person.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    All of the above, including the cutlery!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Can't disagree with any of that. Basic manners cost nothing and are a mark of a person's worth in many ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Cutlery etiquette is a load of pretentious bollox. As long as you get the food to your mouth I don't care what spoon or fork you're using, or what hand it's in.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All courtesy and manners matter to me. I judge rude or unmannerly people negatively because it's extremely easy to be considerate and well mannered, and it's completely free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    It all depends on your own definition of what is good, appropriate behaviour and what is overly/needlessly fastidious.

    Elbows on the table, for example, is something I couldn't care less about.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Please, thank you and a smile go a long way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Site Banned Posts: 32 NeverTheLess


    Who wouldn't?????? Lousy excuse for a thread.

    Oh, and I'll have it be said that I don't mind a lack of manners from anonymous strangers across the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Biggest lickspittle on boardz


    I was at a play for the first time a few weeks ago. At the start, there was an announcement for everyone to put their phone on silent. About half way through, someone's phone rang. That was bad enough. A few minutes later, to everyone's annoyance, it rang again.


    I'm not ashamed to admit that I indulged in some Reservoir Dogs style ear cutting fantasies for a few minutes after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Of course, it's a vital component of being a gentleman or lady.

    You tell a lot from a person by the way they hold themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    Absolutely. And not just manners, having consideration and awareness of people around you is important too. Drives me mad when people in shops etc don't look behind them when going through a door to see if there's someone coming behind them so that the door slams in your face. Or people who stop in the middle of a pavement oblivious to people walking behind them. Or the example earlier with the phone, people talking loudly in public/enclosed places like lifts is another everyday rudeness one encounters. Manners cost nothing and you can make the world a nicer, kinder place for everyone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭Yawns


    Of course, it's a vital component of being a gentleman or lady.

    You tell a lot from a person by the way they hold themselves.

    How do you hold yours?

    I'm guessing with a deft left hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Yes.

    Now I shall be off to the drawing room for Brandy and Cigars by the fire. Good night ladies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,687 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Couldn't care less about some the meaningless side of etiquette (although basic stuff like hygiene or not eating like a pig should be basic staples) but I despise unprovoked, genuinely bad manners.

    That said, if somebody is rude to you for no reason, I've no problem with reciprocation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Yawns wrote: »
    How do you hold yours?

    I'm guessing with a deft left hand.

    No man I'm right handed, I pull my chain with that.

    The username is a Pete Doherty song.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    Yes manners are important it doesn't kill someone to say please and thank you. At the end of the day it's nice to be nice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Yes manners are important it doesn't kill someone to say please and thank you. At the end of the day it's nice to be nice.

    But, in accordance with your wishes, I shall refrain from thanking you, much as it goes against my better instincts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    Table manners say a lot about a person. People who put their knife into their mouth, hold cutlery as if they were woodwork tools or talk with their mouths full show that they were not brought up very well and appear lower class no matter how much money they may make or what make of car they drive.
    It is important to be polite to restaurant staff too.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    annascott wrote: »
    Table manners say a lot about a person. People who put their knife into their mouth, hold cutlery as if they were woodwork tools or talk with their mouths full show that they were not brought up very well and appear lower class no matter how much money they may make or what make of car they drive.

    That post says more about you to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭MuffinTop86


    I always notice cutlery because I was always pulled on it growing up til I got it right.
    My biggest pet peeve is people walking in a line that don't move. If I'n walking towards one other person I'll move, but never for people who seem to be afraid they'll lose each other if they have to stop holding hands for a second.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,833 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Yes manners are important it doesn't kill someone to say please and thank you. At the end of the day it's nice to be nice.

    It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    But...but...but....if a man holds the door open for a woman he's a sexist pig!

    I was brought up to say please and thank you. Smile. Speak when spoken to. If you're first at the door, hold it open for whoever is next irrespective of what gender they are.....or which direction they are going. Chew with mouth closed...etc etc.

    In other words, I was raised to be polite and respect others. Shame that it is no longer acceptable :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Macmillan150


    Have you ever really been called a sexist pig for holding a door open?


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 17,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭Toots


    Hold your knife and fork in the correct hand and for the love of God, don't chew with your mouth open and we should get along just fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    Have you ever really been called a sexist pig for holding a door open?

    Obviously you were asking me. And yes, I was. And I still hold the door open if I am there first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭Mena Mitty


    Toots wrote: »
    Hold your knife and fork in the correct hand and for the love of God, don't chew with your mouth open and we should get along just fine.

    That might be a varient of don't speak with your mouth full.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,566 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Manners yes, etiquette no.

    It's nice if someone holds a door or says thanks, but I don't give a rats arse what fork they eat their fish with.


    _

    Ettiquette, as opposed to manners, isnt about using the right cutlery. Its about doing things in a respectful and socially pleasant way. So if someone invites you to dinner in their house, its good manners to be on time but its the ettiquette that you bring a bottle of wine.

    Manners is the basic courtesy, ettiqute is what makes someone congenial. As I understand it.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,566 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    I always notice cutlery because I was always pulled on it growing up til I got it right.
    My biggest pet peeve is people walking in a line that don't move. If I'n walking towards one other person I'll move, but never for people who seem to be afraid they'll lose each other if they have to stop holding hands for a second.

    I dont mind couples holding hands along a narrow footpath as they could be on a first date or after getting some news. Id usually step around to let them pass.

    Irritating though when a group of people take up the whole footpath 3 or 4 abreast when if they walked side by side other people could pass!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭big b


    Peregrine wrote: »
    That post says more about you to be honest.

    Try sitting opposite someone who eats in a manner more suitable to a trough than a plate, and shows you what they are eating while they're eating it.

    What you do while you're eating alone is your own business, how you eat in company has some basic expectations.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    big b wrote: »
    Try sitting opposite someone who eats in a manner more suitable to a trough than a plate, and shows you what they are eating while they're eating it.

    What you do while you're eating alone is your own business, how you eat in company has some basic expectations.

    I never disputed that sentiment. As for comments about class and money, that's just pure snobbery.


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