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Truck driven into crowd in Stockholm - No Speculation

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    If the French have any sense they'll elect Le Pen and not make the same mistake the Dutch made , I'm not right wing by any stretch of the imagination

    You think the French should elect a Nazi, but you are not right wing.

    OK, nod, smile, back away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Exactly even though the parents were coming from Turkey it was used to push a Europe to open border policies as was the picture of the dead kids in Syria I'm sure it swayed Trump's air strike but maybe Europeans should see what the aftermath of these attacks do the poor innocent victims and then we may see some pressure come to bare on the European governments.

    There's a picture to tell a thousand words for any situation, and there's always one that could be pushed by all kinds of people to further any agenda. If people really need to see it to make their minds up then I understand the point of sharing pictures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    You think the French should elect a Nazi, but you are not right wing.

    OK, nod, smile, back away.

    godwins law took its time on this one i see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    You think the French should elect a Nazi, but you are not right wing.

    OK, nod, smile, back away.

    She's a Nazi? I'm not that familiar with her?

    To be fair, from what I can tell, people are saying the only options are moderate politicians who will not address the problems, or less palatable candidates who will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    She's a Nazi? I'm not that familiar with her?

    shes a nazi in the same way trump or anyone who isnt far left is a nazi...don't even bother with this one! :D:D


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 263 ✭✭CoolHandBandit


    biko wrote: »
    Tonight in Umea there was a "manifestation of lights", not against the the terror attack, but against the xenophobia it might spawn.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/1487811651232108/


    This is the Swedish way, not opposing the terrorists but opposing the people that would actually oppose the terrorists.
    As I said earlier, the most PC nation in the world..

    It makes me so sad when i hear this kind of stuff. I feel maybe Sweden will be lost in time to the Islamists with the help of the looney liberals and maybe they'll see the folly of their ways in time. I fear it's going to be too late by then. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    She's a Nazi? I'm not that familiar with her?

    To be fair, from what I can tell, people are saying the only options are moderate politicians who will not address the problems, or less palatable candidates who will.

    Well she's a nationalist. And possibly a little socialist. And seeing as "Nazi" stood for "National socialism", I guess you could brand any nationalist with a touch of socialism as being "a Nazi". Oddly though, being a "Nationalist" means you put the interests of your own people first..which sounds good, right? And being a "socialist" means you look after peoples social needs and welfare in the face of corporate interests.. so possibly, being called "a Nazi" isn't as bad as it appears on the face of it. The next few decades might produce a longing for some socialists with a large touch of Nationalism. Time will tell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    Whatever gets you off dude

    I chose not to click into those images btw. I thought they might be horrific. So I passed. Oddly, there was a choice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 161 ✭✭Allah snackbar


    You think the French should elect a Nazi, but you are not right wing.

    OK, nod, smile, back away.

    I'd laugh but then I remember people like you will be the ones shouting stop when Europe tries to get a grip on this menace , "an appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last " Churchill said that about Hitler if we're bringing the Nazis into this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    Beyondgone wrote: »
    I chose not to click into those images btw. I thought they might be horrific. So I passed. Oddly, there was a choice.

    I didn't click on the article, wasn't aware there were gruesome images, I thought it was just the reference to the little girl and flowers !

    Not going to click now anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    I'd laugh but then I remember people like you will be the ones shouting stop when Europe tries to get a grip on this menace , "an appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last " Churchill said that about Hitler if we're bringing the Nazis into this

    If we're going to run with the whole "Ohh -NAZIS!" theme, then those who did the most harm to their own had their own Nazi designation - hilfswillige. That might be how todays Liberals are viewed by future generations. Odd thought, isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Beyondgone wrote: »
    The next few decades might produce a longing for some socialists with a large touch of Nationalism.

    Yes, you can see that she's a Nazi.

    And yes, there will be longing, And violence.

    And the then Nazis will lose. Again and always.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    Yes, you can see that she's a Nazi.

    And yes, there will be longing, And violence.

    And the then Nazis will lose. Again and always.

    Define "lose".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Beyondgone wrote: »
    Define "lose".

    Last time, if they survived the bombs and bullets, they were hanged by the neck until dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭b_mac2


    Last time, if they survived the bombs and bullets, they were hanged by the neck until dead.

    Are you going to fight these Nazis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Last time, if they survived the bombs and bullets, they were hanged by the neck until dead.

    Yeah but I doubt you'll be putting your hand up to do it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    It's terrible, horrible and very scary, but sadly, there's something in that.
    I'm not one for Marine Le Pen at all, but solutions need to be found, Europe in general needs to react, and there are no alternatives !

    I convinced the French will elect LePen and would nearly put my house on it at 11/4. The polls are showing her coming 2nd to Macron but as per Brexit and Trump they are likely not taking into consideration the silent voters who say they will vote one way and go into the ballot box and vote the other way.

    Whilst I agree solutions need to be found as immigration in Europe is out of control and terrorism will get worse electing LePen could be the end of the EU which would be terrible for us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    Last time, if they survived the bombs and bullets, they were hanged by the neck until dead.

    Who's this now? The Nazis? Lol, they went off and populated Argentina lad, and started Nasa and stuff. And built BMW and Daimler and the other corporations up to what they are now. Hitler and some of his chums got the good news. The rest carried on regardless. You need to stop taking things literally. There's shades of grey. The grey is where it's at.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I convinced the French will elect LePen and would nearly put my house on it at 11/4. The polls are showing her coming 2nd to Macron but as per Brexit and Trump they are likely not taking into consideration the silent voters who say they will vote one way and go into the ballot box and vote the other way.

    Whilst I agree solutions need to be found as immigration in Europe is out of control and terrorism will get worse electing LePen could be the end of the EU which would be terrible for us.

    You'd lose your house. She will come in close second. The time isn't right. By the time the times right, it will be too late for the right. By then, you'll be right, but you'll have left your house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Yes, you can see that she's a Nazi.

    And yes, there will be longing, And violence.

    And the then Nazis will lose. Again and always.

    I feel that Islamism (N.B Please note the 'ism'!) is closer to a fascist sort of threat than she is, to be honest. I do believe that 'it' could happen again, but not in the way people seem to expect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Yeah but I doubt you'll be putting your hand up to do it

    Well, no, putting your hand up to do it is a rookie mistake.

    Do it when the Nazis have their backs turned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Yes, you can see that she's a Nazi.

    And yes, there will be longing, And violence.

    And the then Nazis will lose. Again and always.

    Crazy talk. Nazi is a word thrown around far to easy these days.

    You think she will actually be a genocidal maniac?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    I feel that Islamism (N.B Please note the 'ism'!) is closer to a fascist sort of threat than she is, to be honest.

    My dad was a racist, too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Well, no, putting your hand up to do it is a rookie mistake.

    Do it when the Nazis have their backs turned.

    What do you envisage France would look like under Le Pen and how would it compare to Nazi Germany ? What is it that you're concerned about? I'm honestly interested...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    My dad was a racist, too.

    Oh, lovely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    My dad was a racist, too.

    Eventually, we all become our Dads.


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I convinced the French will elect LePen and would nearly put my house on it at 11/4..

    Oh can you bet with me? I'll put up my crappy rented house....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭Il Fascista


    My dad was a racist, too.

    Honestly, how the hell was that post racist? You are just throwing out buzzwords


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    What is it that you're concerned about? I'm honestly interested...

    I'm not convinced that you are honestly interested - Le Pen is on the extreme racist right wing of European politics, the parallels with Nazism are obvious.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Honestly how the hell was that post racist? You are just throwing out buzzwords

    I didn't say that post was racist.


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