Lock, Stock and Chitchat a Seacht

Muckit · 31-03-2017 05:38PM

Base price wrote: »

Cannot give you any advice but I did read here recently that you no longer need to keep livestock in order to claim BPS - is that the case.

You do for ANC though if applicable

Muckit · 31-03-2017 05:40PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Around me is the same, not holiday homes being reoccupied but new houses or old buildings being renovated. Three on the lane I live on, three beside/overlooking the lake, two on a main road opposite, one at the bottom on one side & another about 500m away on a hill looking directly at our house!

You need to be a tree hugger or a tourist to reside in leitrim God help us

Lady Haywire · 31-03-2017 05:42PM

Muckit wrote: »

You need to be a tree hugger or a tourist to reside in leitrim God help us

Heeeeey.....is this pick on Karen week or something:(

Muckit · 31-03-2017 05:51PM

Ah now now! You're well able for a bit of banter. How's the tummy?

Lady Haywire · 31-03-2017 06:01PM

Muckit wrote: »

Ah now now! You're well able for a bit of banter. How's the tummy?

I'm eating a chicken fillet burger so I think back to normal! Dad is sick today though so it's a bug of some sort alright.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 31-03-2017 07:10PM

Base price wrote: »

Cannot give you any advice but I did read here recently that you no longer need to keep livestock in order to claim BPS - is that the case.

Yeah, land just has to be kept in good Good Agricultural and Environmental Condition, the infamous GAEC. Selling silage, selling grass or just topping a few times will allow you to draw the full BPS, iirc.

kowtow · 31-03-2017 07:49PM

Drove from Kinsale to Limerick to Cavan, and back again between morning milking and evening milking yesterday.

With a horse trailer.

That's a lot of countryside to take in at 80 km/h with f** all motorway.

On Sunday I get to do the same triangle in reverse.

Base price · 31-03-2017 07:53PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Yeah, land just has to be kept in good Good Agricultural and Environmental Condition, the infamous GAEC. Selling silage, selling grass or just topping a few times will allow you to draw the full BPS, iirc.

That's mad Ted - iykwim.
Goes against my understanding of what farming is.

Bullocks · 31-03-2017 07:54PM

kowtow wrote: »

Drove from Kinsale to Limerick to Cavan, and back again between morning milking and evening milking yesterday.

With a horse trailer.

That's a lot of countryside to take in at 80 km/h with f** all motorway.

On Sunday I get to do the same triangle in reverse.

You will be doing well to reverse the horse box at 80km/h

Water John · 31-03-2017 08:20PM

Who's taking, 'the horse to Cavan'?

Would it be better going from Limerick to Dublin to Cavan? M7 & M3.

Muckit · 31-03-2017 08:22PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

I'm eating a chicken fillet burger so I think back to normal! Dad is sick today though so it's a bug of some sort alright.

Well he's hardly harry preggers

Buford T. Justice XIX · 31-03-2017 08:28PM

Base price wrote: »

That's mad Ted - iykwim.
Goes against my understanding of what farming is.

I don't think we are farmers anymore, they seem to be pushing is into being custodians of the countryside, with them defining what that exactly entails no matter what perfectly reasonable arguments we may give them as to why it won't work. Their theory trumps our practice every time.

Have to agree that it's mad though with the lunatics taking over the asylum, this Guardian article being mind-numbingly-funny-insane-factless-rubbish:rolleyes:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/30/dairy-scary-public-farming-calves-pens-alternatives

I wouldn't even know where to start to point out the inaccuracies in it without my head exploding:mad:

Lady Haywire · 31-03-2017 08:53PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I don't think we are farmers anymore, they seem to be pushing is into being custodians of the countryside, with them defining what that exactly entails no matter what perfectly reasonable arguments we may give them as to why it won't work. Their theory trumps our practice every time.

Have to agree that it's mad though with the lunatics taking over the asylum, this Guardian article being mind-numbingly-funny-insane-factless-rubbish:rolleyes:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/30/dairy-scary-public-farming-calves-pens-alternatives

I wouldn't even know where to start to point out the inaccuracies in it without my head exploding:mad:

I was giving off on Twitter about that article earlier, it's ridiculous. I could spout the same stuff about buying a purebred Pomeranian if I put my mind to it. Scaremongering shíte, placate to the masses, use all the 'trigger' words possible. :rolleyes:

Buford T. Justice XIX · 31-03-2017 09:01PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

I was giving off on Twitter about that article earlier, it's ridiculous. I could spout the same stuff about buying a purebred Pomeranian if I put my mind to it. Scaremongering shíte, placate to the masses, use all the 'trigger' words possible. :rolleyes:

Yeah, that's where I saw it tbh.

My response in general to that kind of stuff is...

http://i.imgur.com/ZeC8b1H.jpg

Base price · 31-03-2017 09:07PM

kowtow wrote: »

Drove from Kinsale to Limerick to Cavan, and back again between morning milking and evening milking yesterday.

With a horse trailer.

That's a lot of countryside to take in at 80 km/h with f** all motorway.

On Sunday I get to do the same triangle in reverse.

I met lots of horseboxes/trailers earlier this evening on the N3/M3 while heading back to NCD. Presume they were on the way to Clarkes.

tanko · 31-03-2017 09:09PM

Water John wrote: »

Who's taking, 'the horse to Cavan'?

Would it be better going from Limerick to Dublin to Cavan? M7 & M3.

Far better road alrite but 60 miles and 45 mins longer that way.

tanko · 31-03-2017 09:11PM

Base price wrote: »

I met lots of horseboxes/trailers earlier this evening on the N3/M3 while heading back to NCD. Presume they were on the way to Clarkes.

Must be a big event at Clarkes Equestrian centre this weekend, lots of horse boxes heading there today.

Base price · 31-03-2017 09:16PM

tanko wrote: »

Must be a big event at Clarkes Equestrian centre this weekend, lots of horse boxes heading there today.

Winter dressage finals.

Base price · 31-03-2017 09:31PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I don't think we are farmers anymore, they seem to be pushing is into being custodians of the countryside, with them defining what that exactly entails no matter what perfectly reasonable arguments we may give them as to why it won't work. Their theory trumps our practice every time.

Have to agree that it's mad though with the lunatics taking over the asylum, this Guardian article being mind-numbingly-funny-insane-factless-rubbish:rolleyes:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/30/dairy-scary-public-farming-calves-pens-alternatives

I wouldn't even know where to start to point out the inaccuracies in it without my head exploding:mad:

Read the first paragraph then hit the X to delete it before bothering to read the same rhetoric.
TBH I always wonder how such a marginal percentage of the population can command so much newspaper space/air time.

Water John · 31-03-2017 09:43PM

It's a comment/opinion piece by a columnist. Not sure that he's paid.
Wrote book blog till 2007. Next items are an antifarming line beginning last year.
Most likely vegan driven. Not in any way mainstream.

Grueller · 31-03-2017 10:14PM

Base price wrote: »

Read the first paragraph then hit the X to delete it before bothering to read the same rhetoric.
TBH I always wonder how such a marginal percentage of the population can command so much newspaper space/air time.

Because to be a vegan is not cheap. Ergo these are middle class to wealthy people and the type that have access to the media.

kowtow · 31-03-2017 10:19PM

Water John wrote: »

Who's taking, 'the horse to Cavan'?

Would it be better going from Limerick to Dublin to Cavan? M7 & M3.

Could be I think, although it's a bit depressing when you get to Dublin and remember there is still another 120 clicks or something...

There is no easy way to do it, it's a penance.

Nekarsulm · 31-03-2017 10:27PM

kowtow wrote: »

Could be I think, although it's a bit depressing when you get to Dublin and remember there is still another 120 clicks or something...

There is no easy way to do it, it's a penance.

Yes, but the M3 is like a ghost town usually. Slow to 35 for the tolls, back to 85 till Whitegate.
Speed trap often at Lisgrey, and sometimes just past The Lavey.

kowtow · 31-03-2017 10:28PM

Base price wrote: »

Winter dressage finals.

That's the one. It's like burning money but without the heat and entertainment.

Base price · 31-03-2017 10:32PM

kowtow wrote: »

Could be I think, although it's a bit depressing when you get to Dublin and remember there is still another 120 clicks or something...

There is no easy way to do it, it's a penance.

Ah now, that's way too rough unless your from Mayo

Water John · 31-03-2017 10:33PM

Easier drive. It's the horse I was thinking of.

Must the guy in the gaurdian bringing out the caring side in me.

kowtow · 31-03-2017 10:39PM

Water John wrote: »

Easier drive. It's the horse I was thinking of.

Must the guy in the gaurdian bringing out the caring side in me.

That's why I took him on Thursday, he's old and needs a chance to stretch a bit before he competes. Although He's been there so many times at one point I thought I heard him arguing with the Navi.

Farrell · 31-03-2017 11:02PM

Water John wrote: »

Who's taking, 'the horse to Cavan'?

Would it be better going from Limerick to Dublin to Cavan? M7 & M3.

Not with a trailer as you're not going to gain anymore speed plus the slowing for the tolls

Limestone Cowboy · 31-03-2017 11:13PM

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

Remember that as well from being there a few years ago, especially around the 'Coffee Houses'. We wandered into another area synonymous with Amsterdam. It cool enough evening and girls sitting inside the shop window must of been from a farm as they seemed to have an infra red lamp to keep them warm. Was tempted to ask one of them did she not have a cardigan or something to wear as she could get a cold or her chest.

I had a wander round there too

einn32 · 01-04-2017 02:07AM

Water John wrote: »

Easier drive. It's the horse I was thinking of.

Must the guy in the gaurdian bringing out the caring side in me.

That's how I usually go to Cavan . I went up through the middle once and I found it a tougher drive.

I thought if you were vegan you gave up all animal products not just a diet.

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